Thread: Texas Judge Plans For 'Civil War' If Obama Re-elected

he's as crazy as the judge that got caught wearing the penis pump during trials.

^^ This is what I'm getting ready for ...I think whoever wins, and things get worse, the next step is civil war

Originally Posted by hypo_glycemic

^^ This is what I'm getting ready for ...I think whoever wins, and things get worse, the next step is civil war

We're too dumb and fat for that now. We'll have to hire Joe Illegal to do our fighting for us.

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When approached by an officer, Thompson claimed that he "just wanted to see what was going on." When he later exited his vehicle, police noted, Thompson's "pants were unzipped and gaping open."

Originally Posted by Little Wing

he's as crazy as the judge that got caught wearing the penis pump during trials.

Originally Posted by troubador

We're too dumb and fat for that now. We'll have to hire Joe Illegal to do our fighting for us.

the irony is Joe illegal would fight for his right to work here before going back to mexico broke and destitute.

Originally Posted by troubador

We're too dumb and fat for that now. We'll have to hire Joe Illegal to do our fighting for us.

JimmyUSA will hire someone to fight for him. Apparently he can't even be bothered to mow his own lawn.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Notorious "Penis Pump" Judge Arrested For Stalking Ex-Girlfriend | The Smoking Gun

When approached by an officer, Thompson claimed that he "just wanted to see what was going on." When he later exited his vehicle, police noted, Thompson's "pants were unzipped and gaping open."

^Fuck!! I mean wtf? ROFL

Originally Posted by Zaphod

JimmyUSA will hire someone to fight for him. Apparently he can't even be bothered to mow his own lawn.

haha... you're right, we don't live at the ranch, it's our getaway, I employ someone to do it for me. but I have shredded many times and ironically I did mow our home today.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

he's as crazy as the judge that got caught wearing the penis pump during trials.

exactly...it's election time and the fear mongering is of course going to increase as always. the US is about as close to civil war now as it was 100 years ago, not even remotely close. not when a good majority of the population actually believes that the financial sector "earns" 25% of the national income and that free markets exist in reality.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

he's as crazy as the judge that got caught wearing the penis pump during trials.

Why do you think is he crazy? Be specific...

Originally Posted by LAM

exactly...it's election time and the fear mongering is of course going to increase as always. the US is about as close to civil war now as it was 100 years ago, not even remotely close. not when a good majority of the population actually believes that the financial sector "earns" 25% of the national income and that free markets exist in reality.

You wouldnt understand people's reasoning behind wanting revolution. The US Costituiton means something to Americans, unlike yourself. The majority in my neck of the woods hate what is happening to our country, they hate Obama, the federal government, their liberal ideas for America and do not want socialism. I do not know people that are this radical, but it's likely there are many out there.

just because we don't know the Thomas Jefferson's of today... Doesn't mean they aren't alive and well...

Believe me, dear Sir: there is not in the British empire a man who more cordially loves a union with Great Britain than I do. But, by the God that made me, I will cease to exist before I yield to a connection on such terms as the British Parliament propose; and in this, I think I speak the sentiments of America.

?Thomas Jefferson, November 29, 1775^[8]

Just a third, 33% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the federal government, the lowest positive rating in 15 years. Yet 61% regard their local governments favorably and 52% have a positive view of their state governments -- making the gap between favorable ratings of the federal government and state and local governments wider than ever.
Ten years ago, roughly two-thirds of Americans offered favorable assessments of all three levels of government: federal, state and local.

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

You wouldnt understand people's reasoning behind wanting revolution. The US Costituiton means something to Americans, unlike yourself. The majority in my neck of the woods hate what is happening to our country, they hate Obama, the federal government, their liberal ideas for America and do not want socialism. I do not know people that are this radical, but it's likely there are many out there.

just because we don't know the Thomas Jefferson's of today... Doesn't mean they aren't alive and well...

Believe me, dear Sir: there is not in the British empire a man who more cordially loves a union with Great Britain than I do. But, by the God that made me, I will cease to exist before I yield to a connection on such terms as the British Parliament propose; and in this, I think I speak the sentiments of America.

?Thomas Jefferson, November 29, 1775^[8]

and of course there is an all time low polling for federal government, that is the plan of the radical right. to make people hate government. but maybe they should have paid attention more to the events of the last say 40-50 years in the US then. along with learning how capitalism works in reality and not that of "economic theory" from 200 years ago.

in your case I suggest actually learning the meaning of the world socialism and reading the works of the worlds leading economists along with learning how capitalism works in reality and as it has practiced since the mid 1800's. because in reality capitalists hate true "free market" capitalism they prefer monopoly capitalism like that practiced in the US today,

because I can guarantee in 30 years when your children are making less than you are today and everything costs double, they won't be raving about the cronyism capitalism that is practiced in the US now and for the past century. because there haven't been free markets in the US since the 1800's along with the fact that there is no country that operates on "free market" principles out there. those days are long gone, never to return. you also may want to brush up on the benefits of deregulation.

so enjoy dreaming about the fantasy land that you created in your head about a US that has never existed in reality. and your children will get to experience your wish of limited government for the people and big gov for the markets and by then the US should be tied with Mexico, Turkey and Chile at the bottom of the OECD. because they are the low union, low tax, low social spending country's in the OECD,

the funny thing is you still think the US is sovereign....LOL

Wouldn't it just be easier to kill Obama? Then it's a win for everyone who matters.

Originally Posted by LAM

and of course there is an all time low polling for federal government, that is the plan of the radical right. to make people hate government. but maybe they should have paid attention more to the events of the last say 40-50 years in the US then. along with learning how capitalism works in reality and not that of "economic theory" from 200 years ago.

in your case I suggest actually learning the meaning of the world socialism and reading the works of the worlds leading economists along with learning how capitalism works in reality and as it has practiced since the mid 1800's. because in reality capitalists hate true "free market" capitalism they prefer monopoly capitalism like that practiced in the US today,

because I can guarantee in 30 years when your children are making less than you are today and everything costs double, they won't be raving about the cronyism capitalism that is practiced in the US now and for the past century. because there haven't been free markets in the US since the 1800's along with the fact that there is no country that operates on "free market" principles out there. those days are long gone, never to return. you also may want to brush up on the benefits of deregulation.

so enjoy dreaming about the fantasy land that you created in your head about a US that has never existed in reality. and your children will get to experience your wish of limited government for the people and big gov for the markets and by then the US should be tied with Mexico, Turkey and Chile at the bottom of the OECD. because they are the low union, low tax, low social spending country's in the OECD,

the funny thing is you still think the US is sovereign....LOL

Here lays part of your problem lam, you're educated in a progressive system and believe people can be "inherently good" and you can cure society of it's inequalities. You are deceived, forgetting the "deceitfulness of power" and "the love of money being the root of all evil". You are arrogant in you beliefs that "socialism" can cure the human heart of these things, it sounds nice and fluffy, it will never happen.

Both parties have a vested interest in socialism, because socialism gives the government more control and governments crave control by their very natures. As George Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. Like fire it is a fearful servant and a terrible master."
As I have said in many previous posts; The main difference between the parties is the speed with which they are consuming our liberties. The government has no will to curb its own aggression against personal liberty. The Republicans favor the slow train while the democrats ride the express.


you keep dreaming your karl Marx dream of socialism, sleep well as you wait for a selfless society with an incorruptible government that is benevolent and creates equality in wages so you can all live happily ever after like one big global family


when you wake up to a failed "socialism", there will be totalitarian government and a society that never could be selfless, the desires of the people are left unfulfilled, there will be chaos and civil unrest because there isn't enough money to go around, look at Greece.


I will end with our fiscally irresponsible version of capitalism today, it is by far not an accurate thumb print of "true free trade capitalism" and there is a lot to be learned here, but the government sticking their long arm in market business with Fannie and Freddie in the first place didn't help matters, throwing borrowed money at this problem made it worse. Obama removing the loan to value criteria is setting us up for an even bigger failure in the housing market, as prices will be artificially propped up again.

A "true free market" painfully, regulates itself via business failures, likewise she flourishes when businesses succeed. In the end we come out stronger, smarter and our shear determination to succeed keeps her going forward. Something that doesn't happen in "socialism" as entitlement kills the desire to succeed and always will.


As for my children, I ask you don't make accusations and or make comments about them, their future or anything of the like. They are none of your business and have no part in this conversation. Thanks.

I just love how the right quotes Jefferson when they are arguing for small government, yet completely dismiss him when the argument changed to separation of church and state.

How come no Alexander Hamilton quotes on the evils of a large federal government?

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

[COLOR=#222222]Here lays part of your problem lam, you're educated in a progressive system and believe people can be "inherently good" and you can cure society of it's inequalities. You are deceived, forgetting the "deceitfulness of power" and "the love of money being the root of all evil".


I will end with our fiscally irresponsible version of capitalism today, it is by far not an accurate thumb print of "true free trade capitalism" and there is a lot to be learned here, but the government sticking their long arm in market business with Fannie and Freddie in the first place didn't help matters, throwing borrowed money at this problem made it worse. Obama removing the loan to value criteria is setting us up for an even bigger failure in the housing market, as prices will be artificially propped up again.

A "true free market" painfully, regulates itself via business failures, likewise she flourishes when businesses succeed. In the end we come out stronger, smarter and our shear determination to succeed keeps her going forward. Something that doesn't happen in "socialism" as entitlement kills the desire to succeed and always will.

Is it me or are these 2 statements at odds with each other? You say government is bad because power and money inherently corrupt people, so the best system is to let the markets regulate themselves by not imposing regulations on people running businesses. You do realize you are basically contradicting yourself, or is big business immune from the same power and corruption that is affecting the government? And you do realize without regulation you would be working 90 hours a week for pennies on the dollar with no benefits or vacation, right? Business didn't just willingly concede those things, labor had to fight for them and take them? And if the government regulations weren't in place preventing monopolies you would have no choices and would just take it how it's given, at whatever they feel like charging. I am all for less government, but if you believe removing regulations is going to improve anything you are fucking retarded, that's one of the primary reasons we are here in the first place.

I would love to live in the fantasy land you live in where government is the only problem because the solution would be simple. The problem is, if you remove the government you still have the assholes who are paying them off. Those people aren't paying off the government so the big bad government will get of their backs. They're paying them off so they can continue to fuck us up our asses.

Originally Posted by secdrl

A Republican judge in Texas is preparing for revolution if President Barack Obama wins re-election. Lubbock County Judge Tom Head predicts Obama winning a second term would lead to a revolt by the American people.

Why do these stupid and embarrassing stories even make it in the mainstream media?

Waste of time.

It's possible that this story, as stupid and without any evidence as it is, is another attempt to get ignorant Texans who are registered to vote to the polls.

Texes will likely go to Romney, but it's considered a "leaning" state..

Perry tried something similar when he was running for re-election for Governor and was down by 18% in the polls.

He gave the phony and fake speeches about "seceding" (while accepting federal stimulus money).

The fade "secede" tactic worked and Perry reversed the polls and was re-elected.

And as everyone here know, I cannot stand Obama. I never voted for Obama and will not in this next election.

It's almost as if your logic is, "Well, big business is fucking people up the ass and the government is making them wear a condom, so we really need to eliminate all of this government sponsored condom usage so that companies won't be forced to fuck people up the ass anymore."

Originally Posted by hoyle21

I just love how the right quotes Jefferson when they are arguing for small government, yet completely dismiss him when the argument changed to separation of church and state.

How come no Alexander Hamilton quotes on the evils of a large federal government?

Because he was for a large federal government. He was also for limiting voting rights to males who owned property. He kinda sucked.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

I just love how the right quotes Jefferson when they are arguing for small government, yet completely dismiss him when the argument changed to separation of church and state.

How come no Alexander Hamilton quotes on the evils of a large federal government?

My biggest gripe with conservatives is their use of religion as a stance on social issues that for all intents and purposes are not something that should really matter (abortion being a huge one). There is a law in place, leave it to the states if they want to change it. The use of religion as justification for policy stances in general really bothers me, no matter the party.

Originally Posted by LAM

and of course there is an all time low polling for federal government, that is the plan of the radical right. to make people hate government. but maybe they should have paid attention more to the events of the last say 40-50 years in the US then. along with learning how capitalism works in reality and not that of "economic theory" from 200 years ago.

in your case I suggest actually learning the meaning of the world socialism and reading the works of the worlds leading economists along with learning how capitalism works in reality and as it has practiced since the mid 1800's. because in reality capitalists hate true "free market" capitalism they prefer monopoly capitalism like that practiced in the US today,

because I can guarantee in 30 years when your children are making less than you are today and everything costs double, they won't be raving about the cronyism capitalism that is practiced in the US now and for the past century. because there haven't been free markets in the US since the 1800's along with the fact that there is no country that operates on "free market" principles out there. those days are long gone, never to return. you also may want to brush up on the benefits of deregulation.

so enjoy dreaming about the fantasy land that you created in your head about a US that has never existed in reality. and your children will get to experience your wish of limited government for the people and big gov for the markets and by then the US should be tied with Mexico, Turkey and Chile at the bottom of the OECD. because they are the low union, low tax, low social spending country's in the OECD,

the funny thing is you still think the US is sovereign....LOL

Your arrogance makes your message get overlooked all too often, one day you may realize this but I highly doubt it. I bet you were the smart kid that was always right but no one listened to because the idea of you answering without condescension in your voice is nearly impossible. Bravo good sir, you are yet another smart guy that goes unheard because you can't communicate with people on a real level past the keyboard.

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

You wouldnt understand people's reasoning behind wanting revolution. The US Costituiton means something to Americans, unlike yourself. The majority in my neck of the woods hate what is happening to our country, they hate Obama, the federal government, their liberal ideas for America and do not want socialism. I do not know people that are this radical, but it's likely there are many out there.

just because we don't know the Thomas Jefferson's of today... Doesn't mean they aren't alive and well...

Believe me, dear Sir: there is not in the British empire a man who more cordially loves a union with Great Britain than I do. But, by the God that made me, I will cease to exist before I yield to a connection on such terms as the British Parliament propose; and in this, I think I speak the sentiments of America.

?Thomas Jefferson, November 29, 1775^[8]

i think he is crazy because a) he's in a state of hysteria and b) he's waving a flag saying, "trouble right here boys looookit meeee."

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

Here lays part of your problem lam, you're educated in a progressive system and believe people can be "inherently good" and you can cure society of it's inequalities. You are deceived, forgetting the "deceitfulness of power" and "the love of money being the root of all evil". You are arrogant in you beliefs that "socialism" can cure the human heart of these things, it sounds nice and fluffy, it will never happen.

Both parties have a vested interest in socialism, because socialism gives the government more control and governments crave control by their very natures. As George Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. Like fire it is a fearful servant and a terrible master."
As I have said in many previous posts; The main difference between the parties is the speed with which they are consuming our liberties. The government has no will to curb its own aggression against personal liberty. The Republicans favor the slow train while the democrats ride the express.


you keep dreaming your karl Marx dream of socialism, sleep well as you wait for a selfless society with an incorruptible government that is benevolent and creates equality in wages so you can all live happily ever after like one big global family


when you wake up to a failed "socialism", there will be totalitarian government and a society that never could be selfless, the desires of the people are left unfulfilled, there will be chaos and civil unrest because there isn't enough money to go around, look at Greece.


I will end with our fiscally irresponsible version of capitalism today, it is by far not an accurate thumb print of "true free trade capitalism" and there is a lot to be learned here, but the government sticking their long arm in market business with Fannie and Freddie in the first place didn't help matters, throwing borrowed money at this problem made it worse. Obama removing the loan to value criteria is setting us up for an even bigger failure in the housing market, as prices will be artificially propped up again.

A "true free market" painfully, regulates itself via business failures, likewise she flourishes when businesses succeed. In the end we come out stronger, smarter and our shear determination to succeed keeps her going forward. Something that doesn't happen in "socialism" as entitlement kills the desire to succeed and always will.


As for my children, I ask you don't make accusations and or make comments about them, their future or anything of the like. They are none of your business and have no part in this conversation. Thanks.

You haven't a clue what socialism is. Your only brush with what socialism is is whatever your conservative heroes tell you it is. They lied to you.

Zap is too smart to be a liberal. This is just a bad dream.

Originally Posted by Jimmyusa

Here lays part of your problem lam, you're educated in a progressive system and believe people can be "inherently good" and you can cure society of it's inequalities. You are deceived, forgetting the "deceitfulness of power" and "the love of money being the root of all evil". You are arrogant in you beliefs that "socialism" can cure the human heart of these things, it sounds nice and fluffy, it will never happen.

Both parties have a vested interest in socialism, because socialism gives the government more control and governments crave control by their very natures. As George Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. Like fire it is a fearful servant and a terrible master."
As I have said in many previous posts; The main difference between the parties is the speed with which they are consuming our liberties. The government has no will to curb its own aggression against personal liberty. The Republicans favor the slow train while the democrats ride the express.


you keep dreaming your karl Marx dream of socialism, sleep well as you wait for a selfless society with an incorruptible government that is benevolent and creates equality in wages so you can all live happily ever after like one big global family


when you wake up to a failed "socialism", there will be totalitarian government and a society that never could be selfless, the desires of the people are left unfulfilled, there will be chaos and civil unrest because there isn't enough money to go around, look at Greece.


I will end with our fiscally irresponsible version of capitalism today, it is by far not an accurate thumb print of "true free trade capitalism" and there is a lot to be learned here, but the government sticking their long arm in market business with Fannie and Freddie in the first place didn't help matters, throwing borrowed money at this problem made it worse. Obama removing the loan to value criteria is setting us up for an even bigger failure in the housing market, as prices will be artificially propped up again.

A "true free market" painfully, regulates itself via business failures, likewise she flourishes when businesses succeed. In the end we come out stronger, smarter and our shear determination to succeed keeps her going forward. Something that doesn't happen in "socialism" as entitlement kills the desire to succeed and always will.


As for my children, I ask you don't make accusations and or make comments about them, their future or anything of the like. They are none of your business and have no part in this conversation. Thanks.

when have I ever promoted socialism? never....and I quote Marx because the US is progressing EXACTLY as Marx foretold not because I agree or disagree with his economic ideology. his writings are a very accurate description of how the US transformed from an "almost" free market economy in the mid 1800's to the heavily managed market economy that we have in 2012. and it has nothing to do with being progressive it has to do with actually learning global and US economic history. all I do is regurgitate widely excepted economic history that is supported by empirical data. and data collected over the OECD shows that as "capitalism" has grown the majority of the offspring of those in the solid middleclass are falling into the lower levels.

the problem with ideologues like yourself is not only your lack of knowledge of general global economic history as capitalism was employed in reality and not that of theory. economics is a numbers game and the effects of cronyism capitalism are not zero sum but negative sum. meaning that those that feel the harsh edges of the perverted form of capitalism practiced in the US end up being in a worst off position as time progresses, never improving. those that are in the working class that are broke in 2012 will only see their financial position worsen with time as wages will never increase greater than the increasing costs of goods and services and inflation. that being the case the past 30 years in the US only forecast what the upcoming 30 years in the US will be.

right now the US workforce is burden by debt as the record household debt levels in the US are proof positive of that. as the private sector continues to deleverage (pay down debt) real GDP growth has slowed to a crawl when combined with the contraction of fiscal stimulus out of the US fed gov. the explosion of the debt is the cummulative effect of monetary policy out of the fed which weakens the dollar, the slight decrease in the overall progressiveness of the US tax code and deregulation of various markets. on paper deregulation may sound like a good thing but all of the empirical data shows in the majority of the markets it only results in increased costs of goods and services to consumers, which means more money is transferred from the bottom to the top. while some inequality is necessary extreme inequality hampers economic growth, also backed by 3 decades of empirical data where real GDP growth in the low tax US is exactly the same as that of the high tax, high social protection spending country's of the EU that have much lower levels of inequality.

a shrinking economy is indicative of decreased opportunity and upward economic mobility, one again global economic history. when combined with the decrease in labors share of the national income the size of the economic pie is not only decreased but the slice that goes to those that derive their earnings from wages is also decreasing as capital grabs a larger and larger slice of the pie as the decades progress. once again not debatable, all economic history backed by data. and globally since the 60's as other country's in the world caught up to the industrialization of the english speaking country's of the west. there is going to be a huge global shift in GDP from the west to the developing country's in Asia (India & China) and Africa, etc.

World Banker warns Stanford students of the inevitable global GDP shift. currently at 80/20 with the english speaking country's of the west taking in 80% and the rest of the world 20% is going to shift to 35% and 65% in the coming decades.



once you take all of these things into account it makes it much easier to understand the current hording of wealth in the US and why things only get continually worse from here on. magical thinking has no effect on mathematics. and once the petro-dollar ends it's a wrap for the US economy.

Originally Posted by secdrl

Zap is too smart to be a liberal. This is just a bad dream.

Some ways I am, some I'm not.