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    Obama's Secret Plan To Destroy The Second Amendment By 2016

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    by Wayne LaPierre, NRA Executive Vice PresidentIf you want a glimpse of a genuine nightmare for America, just look at what?s headed our way.But unlike a nightmare, this isn?t some fantasy. It?s a very real, very dangerous conspiracy of public deception intended to destroy your Right to Keep and Bear Arms. It?s targeted directly at you.And it?ll succeed unless you recognize it, understand it, and take action now to stop it.The best way you could do so is by carrying your new 2012 membership card (see sidebar story on page 29) in your wallet as a symbol of your commitment?and by renewing or upgrading your NRA membership or making a contribution to defending freedom today.But first, let me give you the facts, evidence, congressional testimony and documented words and deeds that reveal the frightening but irrefutable truth about this sinister plot.Over the past three years, the Obama administration and its anti-gun allies have been engaged in a silent but sophisticated long-term conspiracy to:1. Neutralize gun owners and NRA voters as a political force in national elections, and thereby:2. Win re-election to a second term in the White House, where they then will be immune to the will of voters and free to continue consolidating and misusing their ever-increasing power to:3. Prosecute a full-scale, sustained, all-out campaign to excise the Second Amendment from our Bill of Rights through legislation, litigation, regulation, executive orders, judicial fiat, international treaties?in short, all the levers of power of all three branches of government.And the key to their success lies in keeping gun owners like you in the dark.Obama White House Pushes Gun Control ?Under the Radar?Now, President Obama, his administration and his anti-gun allies in the media have tried to shrug off, laugh off, shout down or shut down anyone who dares to investigate their clandestine, back-channel anti-gun activities.They?ll spout platitudes about protecting sportsmen and hunters. They?ll insist they?ve done nothing to attack your right to own a gun.They?ll even claim to have strengthened your rights, by restoring your right to transport firearms in luggage aboard Amtrak trains, or possess firearms in national parks.But that?s just a diversion to distract you from their true beliefs and objectives.Think about it: Before moving into the White House, Barack Obama spent his entire career proudly, publicly advancing the most radical anti-gun positions you can imagine.He endorsed a total ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. He opposed Right- to-Carry laws. He voted to ban nearly all common hunting-rifle ammunition.In short, Obama never met a gun he liked, and never met a gun ban he didn?t like. The same was true of his running mate, then U.S. Senator Joe Biden, D-Del.In fact, during presidential primary debates, Obama and Biden competed to be the most anti-gun candidate in the race.Obama vowed to re-impose the discredited Clinton gun ban, and Biden bragged that, ?I?m the guy that originally wrote the assault weapons ban.?So what happened after they won the White House? Did Obama, Biden and the anti-gun extremists who soon filled the West Wing suddenly completely reverse their positions? No!In an act of pure political calculation, they plotted to keep their gun-ban objectives concealed.After all, Obama knew what happened in 1994, when the politicians who voted for Bill Clinton?s gun ban were swept out of Congress. Even Clinton admitted the nra was the reason Democrats lost their 40-year lock on control of the House of Representatives.Obama saw what happened in 2000, when Al Gore built his campaign on the platform of gun control, and watched as the nra derailed Gore in the battleground states of Arkansas, West Virginia and even his home state of Tennessee?costing him the White House.Obama saw how gun control was a loser?and NRA the winner?in election after election.So his administration concocted a scheme to avoid the gun issue, lull gun owners into a false sense of security, and play us for fools in the 2012 election.For the past three years, that?s exactly what they?ve tried to do.But while they?ve rarely revealed their true agenda in public, in private they?ve remained true to their unchanged, if unspoken, ultimate objectives.Ask Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, D?N.Y. Before Obama?s inauguration, she pressured Obama?s transition team to back her ban on ammunition magazines. But, as she later confided to Newsweek, ?They told me that?s not for now, that?s for later.?Since then, the White House has maintained almost military discipline in its ?don?t talk about gun control? directive. Whenever anyone breaks rank on that issue, they?re quickly brought back to toe the line.For example, within a week of their election victory, the Obama-Biden transition team had posted a web page?at change.gov?that listed several anti-gun objectives as priorities, including:? Permanently re-imposing the Clinton gun bans? Opening up sensitive BATFE gun ?trace? data for manipulation by anti-gun politicians? Imposing restrictions that would severely restrict gun showsYou can bet some webmaster lost his job over that mis-step, because within days the web page, and its anti-gun agenda items, disappeared into cyberspace.Even Attorney General Eric Holder departed from the company line.In his first month on the job, at a news conference in Mexico City, Holder said, ?As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons.?The phone lines must have been on fire between Washington and Mexico City that day, because Holder didn?t mention that plan again.But that doesn?t mean that Holder and the White House aren?t planning and plotting, behind closed doors, to launch a massive anti-gun onslaught when the time is right.Just this spring, gun-ban zealot U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., told The Washington Post that Attorney General Holder had visited him on March 29 ?and tried to give us his assurance to help us with legislation? that Lautenberg and McCarthy were pushing to ban ammunition magazines.The next day, March 30, 2011, according to The Washington Post, Sarah Brady?head of the gun-ban lobby formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc.?met with President Obama, who she said brought up the issue of gun control ?to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda.?According to Brady, as reported by the Post, President Obama told her, ?I just want you to know that we are working on it,? and ?We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.?The Obama conspiracy might be trying to run this operation ?under the radar.?But even the steps they?ve taken so far clearly indicate?and concretely support?the all-out war on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms that they positively plan for their second term.Prelude to War on Second Amendment FreedomFor proof, just look at the Justice Department?s clandestine and deadly conspiracy in the ?Fast and Furious? scandal.The only plausible explanation for ?Fast and Furious? is that they wanted to somehow ?prove? the administration?s false and fraudulent claims that?to quote President Obama??more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States.?So the Justice Department and BATFE appear to have secretly conspired to allow, encourage and assist an illegal gun smuggling operation?even spending your tax dollars to buy guns for the drug cartels?knowing full well that thousands of guns were heading straight to the most violent criminals on both sides of the border.We were never supposed to find out about that.The ?Fast and Furious? operation might have remained a secret if it hadn?t led to the murder of one federal officer?U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, where ?Fast and Furious? guns were found at the scene of that murder?and possibly many violent crimes both in the U.S. and Mexico.As I?m sure you know, two congressional investigations into this criminal conspiracy have been under way for most of the year.Yet so far, President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have done nothing but shrug their shoulders, shirk responsibility and stonewall the investigations at every turn, as if Americans shouldn?t care that a massive criminal enterprise seems to have been run right out of our own Justice Department, just to set the stage for a future Obama gun ban.
    Yet ?Fast and Furious? is just the beginning of their sinister operations against Second Amendment freedom.Instead of coming clean on the scandal to stop the killing of innocents on both sides of the border, the Obama administration has exploited that crisis to impose gun registration in four southwestern states through an unlawful, bureaucratic order.Never mind that the administration has no legal authority to do this. Never mind that the order circumvents Congress, makes an end run around the Constitution, and short-circuits the idea of representative government.It?s just another example of the arrogance, over-reach, abuse of authority and contempt for the rule of law that has characterized this administration since the beginning.And you can bet it?ll get a lot worse.Because they?re also working behind the scenes with tyrannical governments and global anti-gun groups at the United Nations, seeking to commit the United States to international gun-ban treaties.Working in the shadows, they?ve quietly reversed the official U.S. position, and all but signed off on proposals for an international Arms Trade Treaty that would directly contradict our own U.S. Constitution.And if you think our nation?s judiciary would never allow that, you could be in for a terrifying surprise.Because Obama has been busy stacking the U.S. Supreme Court with justices who share his distrust and disdain?if not outright hatred?for firearm freedom.His two appointees to the U.S. Supreme Court?Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan?prove that beyond any reasonable doubt.Sotomayor and Kagan are two of the most rabidly anti-gun U.S. Supreme Court justices in American history. In fact, Sotomayor had to lie to get the U.S. Senate to confirm her. That?s right: She lied?while under oath?to the U.S. Senate.During her confirmation hearings, Sotomayor was questioned about the Court?s historic 2008 ruling, in District of Columbia v. Heller, that the Second Amendment protects an individual right of all law-abiding Americans.Rather than admit her true beliefs and intentions, Sotomayor dodged the question, telling members of the Senate Judiciary Committee that she considered the Heller case to be settled law.Yet after securing her seat on the Supreme Court, Justice Sotomayor turned around and did just the opposite of what she?d suggested.In the landmark case of McDonald v. Chicago, Sotomayor voted to allow anti-gun cities and states to deny the individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms that the Supreme Court had affirmed just two years earlier!In fact, Sotomayor wasted no time in signing onto a freedom-threatening opinion declaring: ?I can find nothing in the Second Amendment?s text, history or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as fundamental.?And Obama?s next nominee, Elena Kagan, used the same scripted ?settled law? code?despite a clear record of hostility to gun owners? rights from her days in the Clinton White House.Make no mistake: Over the past three years, we may have won two milestone victories for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in the U.S. Supreme Court. But both of those victories were won by a margin of just one vote.If just one justice out of nine had voted the other way, the Second Amendment would effectively mean nothing today.And it still could, tomorrow, if you and I fail to take action now.The Cost and Consequences of Obama?s Re-ElectionWhat would the consequences be if President Obama is re-elected?For starters, just consider the cost to our U.S. Supreme Court.Right now, four U.S. Supreme Court justices are over the age of 70.By the end of Obama?s second term, three of those justices will be over the age of 80.So if he?s elected to a second term, Obama will very likely appoint as many as three more justices to the highest court in the land for the rest of their lives.Together with Justices Sotomayor and Kagan, those three new justices could control a 5-4 majority of the court, and be free to re-define firearm freedom out of existence for the rest of our lives.In other words, our Second Amendment Supreme Court victories over the past three years could be reversed and wiped away forever as a direct consequence of just one presidential election.What else would a second term for Obama mean for you and me?It would mean the return of a Justice Department that has slashed prosecution of federal gun crimes to the lowest levels in more than a decade, and allowed an invasion of violent drug cartel criminals from Mexico into every community in America.It would mean a White House freed from the control of American voters, and a president free to prosecute his war on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms with impunity.Forget operating ?under the radar? ? now they could come out from behind closed doors.So look for more global gun-ban treaties coming out of the United Nations in New York.Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has signaled the administration?s support for the Organization of American States gun control treaty, and Obama has urged the U.S. Senate to ratify it.The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) is currently in the works, so look for that, as well.Together, these two treaties could effectively ban or severely restrict civilian ownership of firearms worldwide.If that surprises you, it shouldn?t. After all, according to the United Nations, there is no such thing as a human right of self-defense. In their view, only governments have rights.Look for more federal regulations, more administrative rules, more bureaucracy and bureaucrats, executive orders and presidential proclamations governing every aspect of how you own, use, store, transport, trade, surrender and dispose of firearms and ammunition forever more.As Steven Croley, the Obama White House gun regulation ?czar,? wrote in his book Regulation and Public Interests: The Possibility of Good Regulatory Government, ?The evolution of the regulatory state has not been gradual, but rather reflects accelerated growth in response to periods of crisis and national trauma. In this light, regulation seems not only ubiquitous but inevitable.?Pay particular attention to those words: ?periods of crisis and national trauma.?Because if the government?s ?Fast and Furious? disaster is any indication, it appears that Obama and company are willing to use any and every means at their disposal?even criminal conspiracy at the international level?to put their plan for America?s future into force.If they?re successful, if they win another four years in the White House, look for the worst anti-gun legislative avalanche since 1968.
    Gun bans. Microstamping. Bullet serialization. ?One gun a month.? Global gun databases, secret watchlists and the holy grail they?ve worked to impose for the past 50 years: Gun owner licensing and gun registration regimes that could be used for gun prohibition, confiscation and ultimate destruction.In other words, the end of firearm freedom as we know it.Is this conspiracy real? You bet it is! There?s more than enough circumstantial evidence to earn this administration a guilty verdict in any American court of law.The only alternative to conspiracy is an American president who is so clueless and out of touch that he doesn?t realize what his Justice Department, his State Department, his White House staff?or anyone else in the executive branch?is doing every day.To believe that is to believe the Justice Department is arming multinational criminal organizations ? and the State Department is negotiating United Nations treaties ? and armies of federal regulators are doing as they please ? and extreme anti-gun radicals are rising to the Supreme Court through luck, coincidence or happenstance ? all without any input, supervision or even knowledge of the Commander in Chief.If you buy that, I?ve got some swampland in Florida that might interest you.Now, you know as well as I that this is a slick and ambitious American president who is orchestrating?in minute and precise detail?a plan to excise the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights.Motive for ConspiracyYou might be asking yourself, ?Why do they want to do all this? Why do they hate and fear the Right to Keep and Bear Arms so much??But if you look at their motives and their ultimate goals, their conspiracy makes perfect sense and serves several overlapping and interlocking objectives.By convincing gun owners that their freedoms are secure, and neutralizing the NRA as a force in national elections, they hope to win a second term in the White House.From there they plan to use their power to take America down the same path as England, Australia, South Africa and Canada, where gun owners have suffered crushing gun ban defeats in the last 20 years.Without the Right to Keep and Bear Arms to unite, inspire, empower and activate America?s 90 million gun owners, they hope to profoundly alter the political landscape of our country forever.After all, election after election has proven that in some of the most closely contested Election Day battles in American history, the NRA has been the single most decisive game-changer in politics.Why? Because of the passion and vision of patriotic NRA members and gun-owning voters all across America ? 4 million NRA members like you ? and 25 million more Americans who identify themselves with the NRA ? and 90 million American gun owners who share our passion for freedom.More than anything else, that?s what makes us an impediment to the likes of President Obama.Centuries of history prove that the right to arms is all that stands between tyranny and freedom, and that when human freedom is threatened, the right to arms and the passion to preserve it are what muster and mobilize ?we the people? to freedom?s defense.We saw it among the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord, and we see it every year on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November, when millions of American patriots like you proclaim, ?I?m the NRA and I vote!?Make no mistake: The fate of our nation hangs on what we do now.In your heart, you need to make one of the most important decisions on the future of freedom that you?ll ever face in your lifetime.Every gun owner needs to be an active part of the NRA right now. Every member who doesn?t rejoin makes us one member weaker. Nobody can do what we can do together.If there?s one thing I know about the NRA, it?s how to give voice to our membership. So let me give voice to you in defense of American freedom.Put the NRA membership card I send you into your wallet, and carry it with pride through the monumental battles of 2012.Pass along this story, e-mail the link and spread the word about this conspiracy menacing our freedom to your friends, fellow gun owners and everyone you know who shares your passion for the freedoms that make America unique in the history of the world.Most importantly, renew your NRA membership, upgrade your level of NRA membership and make a contribution to help combat this dangerous conspiracy now.Your NRA membership card is the single most important political investment you can possibly make in the preservation of American freedom.And America has never needed patriots like you and me to come to freedom?s defense more than freedom needs us right now.The Card That CountsYour new 2012 National Rifle Association Membership Card is the key to preserving our freedoms and our country for future generations. With President Barack Obama orchestrating a sophisticated conspiracy to win re-election and ultimately excise the Second Amendment from our Bill of Rights, it?s vitally important that you carry this card as a symbol of your commitment to help combat that threat.For the sake of our Right to Keep and Bear Arms, it?s vital that you renew your nra membership, upgrade your NRA membership and urge others to join NRA. This is a defining moment and we need every gun owner to make the personal commitment to NRA?and to the 2012 election fight?today.
    Your NRA card represents the future for the Second Amendment. It is the key to the kind of America that our kids and grandkids will inherit.
    For the future of the U.S.A we love, for the preservation of the values and fabric of the nation we protect, it?s vital that you renew or upgrade your NRA membership as soon as you receive your card in the mail.
    Your NRA membership card and your 2012 membership commitment mean that we preserve a 5-4 pro-gun majority on the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Your NRA membership card and your 2012 membership commitment will help to protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms from United Nations global gun-ban treaties.
    Your NRA membership card and your 2012 membership commitment will help defend Second Amendment freedom from Obama?s onslaught of rules, regulations, bureaucrats and executive orders.
    And your NRA membership card and your 2012 membership commitment will help expose and combat dangerous, illegal operations that endanger freedom like the Justice Department?s deadly ?Fast and Furious? disaster.
    The NRA membership card represents your commitment to NRA?the one organization that can make a decisive difference in the 2012 elections. Standing together, we have changed the course of history at the ballot box, again and again?replacing an anti-gun Congress with a pro-gun Congress, and stopping Al Gore from becoming president. Carrying your 2012 Membership Card in your pocket means Obama loses next year.
    In the coming months before the Nov. 6, 2012, elections, citizens like you will be the key to ending the Obama regime and dismantling its conspiracy targeting your Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
    Working together, let?s take back our freedom as the birthright of every American that no president, no White House executive order or administrative rule, no bureaucrat, no Supreme Court justice?or anyone else?can ever take away.
    So please, when you receive your new 2012 Membership Card, respond as if the freedom of the nation depends on it. It does. Renew. Upgrade. Sign up friends and neighbors. The future of our liberty, our free America is in our hands.
    To renew or upgrade online or by phone, visit www.NRA-2012.org or call 1-877-NRA-2012.
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    The NRA said that when he was first running for president.
    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    Obama?s Secret Plan To Destroy The Second Amendment By 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    The NRA said that when he was first running for president.
    The NRA is in a "biggest nut job" contest with PETA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    The NRA is in a "biggest nut job" contest with PETA.
    They're a mixed blessing. They accomplish quite a bit for gun rights while also being way out there on some things.
    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    They're a mixed blessing. They accomplish quite a bit for gun rights while also being way out there on some things.
    Like any group, I think you have to have a crazy side in order to get attention and money IMO.

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    He's a Democrat. Of course he's out to get rid of guns.

    What I really fucking love is that they tell you that you don't need guns, while surrounded by armed guards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    The NRA is in a "biggest nut job" contest with PETA.
    Sea kittens? Meat industry holocaust?

    PETA wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    He's a Democrat. Of course he's out to get rid of guns.

    What I really fucking love is that they tell you that you don't need guns, while surrounded by armed guards.
    you should try reading resolutions from the U.N. there is only 60+ years worth of them, they dictate US policy. you don't know jack squat about politics DOMS. just like it was a U.N resolution that ordered that the US be broken up into 12 districts in the 60's, then Nixon signed the final EO to create FEMA and the US was broken up into 12 districts that happen to almost the exact same as the 12 Federal Reserve districts.
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    I had a gun before I could and Ill have a gun after I cant.
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    even i have to agree, there is no way that he could ban guns..


    and even if he somehow could, the next republican president would just un-ban them lol
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    [At some point] It's going to be an ammo ban whether its primers or brass or powders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pimpin View Post
    [At some point] It's going to be an ammo ban whether its primers or brass or powders.
    Then they will have to ban, sulfur, charcoal and all nitrate's or Ill be making my own powder.
    See what Im saying? We shall adapt

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    you should try reading resolutions from the U.N. there is only 60+ years worth of them, they dictate US policy. you don't know jack squat about politics DOMS.
    Yeah DOMS, you dumbass. Democrats aren't trying to get rid of guns. Feinstein, McCarthy, Bloomberg, and Brady are just androids created by Colonel Sanders as part of the NWO army. DOMS you don't know shit about the Colonel and his delicious chicken robots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    you should try reading resolutions from the U.N. there is only 60+ years worth of them, they dictate US policy. you don't know jack squat about politics DOMS. just like it was a U.N resolution that ordered that the US be broken up into 12 districts in the 60's, then Nixon signed the final EO to create FEMA and the US was broken up into 12 districts that happen to almost the exact same as the 12 Federal Reserve districts.
    Oh, so it's not the Democrats that are pushing stricter gun control laws just because you babble about zones?


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    Quote Originally Posted by troubador View Post
    Yeah DOMS, you dumbass. Democrats aren't trying to get rid of guns. Feinstein, McCarthy, Bloomberg, and Brady are just androids created by Colonel Sanders as part of the NWO army. DOMS you don't know shit about the Colonel and his delicious chicken robots.
    How could I be so stupid? It's the zones, man. THE ZONES!

    And it was a zone on the grassy knoll, too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    How could I be so stupid? It's the zones, man. THE ZONES!

    And it was a zone on the grassy knoll, too!
    There was a second zone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by troubador View Post
    There was a second zone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    you should try reading resolutions from the U.N. there is only 60+ years worth of them, they dictate US policy. you don't know jack squat about politics DOMS. just like it was a U.N resolution that ordered that the US be broken up into 12 districts in the 60's, then Nixon signed the final EO to create FEMA and the US was broken up into 12 districts that happen to almost the exact same as the 12 Federal Reserve districts.
    Okay, just because I'm bored, what on God's green Earth does this response have to do with DOMS' original statement?????
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    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Okay, just because I'm bored, what on God's green Earth does this response have to do with DOMS' original statement?????
    Uh...Hello, welcome to IM. I see you've met LAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Okay, just because I'm bored, what on God's green Earth does this response have to do with DOMS' original statement?????
    because the US is not a sovereign nation. what sovereign nation does not control it's own currency? none in world history...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    The NRA is in a "biggest nut job" contest with PETA.
    please tell me how you feel the NRA is an organization of "nut jobs"
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    This should be really simple, stop over complicating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    because the US is not a sovereign nation. what sovereign nation does not control it's own currency? none in world history...
    Yeah, okay, still not seeing the connection between that and DOMS slamming Obama for wanting to steal guns.
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Yeah, okay, still not seeing the connection between that and DOMS slamming Obama for wanting to steal guns.
    Here, I'll sum it up for you:

    If Bush and the Republicans do it, it's their fault because they're evil and hate kittens.

    If Obama and the Democrats do it, it's someone else's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Yeah, okay, still not seeing the connection between that and DOMS slamming Obama for wanting to steal guns.
    do some research on what the UN does and your answer is there. it goes back to the US not being a sovereign nation, the position of POTUS being mainly a ceremonial position at this point in time. the POTUS does not control the US, the BIS (Bank of International Settlements) does via the FSB (Financial Stability Board) and FED reserve banking system. the US does what the UN commands it's been this way since the end of WWII when the UN was created.

    and regardless the POTUS does not write or pass legislation the House does so what difference does it make if the GOP controls the House?
    Conservatism is the default ideology for lazy non-critical thinkers

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    new england is heavily democratic and most homes have guns and i'm betting a high percentage love venison. why the hell would we not want guns? i missed this memo.

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    In order to "outlaw" guns, the constitution has to be amended. Fat chance of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    the nra is in a "biggest nut job" contest with peta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodneyL View Post
    In order to "outlaw" guns, the constitution has to be amended. Fat chance of that.
    apparently folks have forgotten about the basic system of how legislation gets changed and passed and especially that of the Constitution. they get their panties all up in a bunch every time the media prints the words of a politician.

    those guns can't stop what's in Ft Detrick anyway...
    Conservatism is the default ideology for lazy non-critical thinkers

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    Romney was against guns before he was for them so yes the nra is a bag of nuts to trust him when his opinion can be swayed like a dingle-berry in a wind storm.

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