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    A Better IM?........

    Yesterday, I attempted to express my dissappointment with the "quality" recent threads here at IM. Now, perhaps I took the wrong approach, or let my personal 'condition' blur my judgement......as was made evident by your "responses".
    No big deal, just water under the bridge......
    Regardless, I think a lot of IM, its members, and those involved with the production and moderation of discussions here. However, after reading a similar dicussion posted here, I was given the impression that a certain degree of prejudice existed among certain 'key' individuals. It seems to have been implied that anyone having spent any time at all in the open chat area could not be taken all that seriously. Again, this is just my interpretation of the comment(s). Well, personally, I came to IM looking for answers, not jokes. I am very serious about training and diet, and just because I don't communicate as retentively as some would like, or prefer to integrate some humor into my conversations, even in the diet,training and suppliment forums, this does not mean that I am not serious about these topics.
    So, in an effort to prove wrong those who feel that they are somehow of greater metal than others, I suggest this.
    In all seriousness, I think we should come up with suggestions an/or constructive criticism for Prince, et al, to use in bettering IM....not that it needs much improvement, but it wouldn't hurt to re-evaluate some areas.
    Again, this isn't a B.S. thread....to make it one would defeat its purpose.
    Any Suggestions?
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    Re: A Better IM?........

    Originally posted by DaMayor
    However, after reading a similar dicussion posted here, I was given the impression that a certain degree of prejudice existed among certain 'key' individuals. It seems to have been implied that anyone having spent any time at all in the open chat area could not be taken all that seriously. Again, this is just my interpretation of the comment(s).

    And who implied that?

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    DM - I see where you are coming from. I can formulate an idea or two, but would rather not speculate about those "KEY" members

    Hey, regardless of whether or not those key members would like to admit to it. But the majority of people that come here have an interest or two in dieting and exercise and seek that common grounds to enhance their knowledge

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    we have supplement, training, and yes even a diet forum, which are pretty serious and you can disscuss what you want in there with as much and as little humor as you choose.

    open chat is the name of this forum it means what it says it's open for any form of conversation and just cause people like to have fun and crack jokes in here doesn't mean that we can't be serious when we choose to be.

    I personally like IM there isn't much i'd change about this place. i spend alot of my time here theres an atmosphere of love from friends, also; there may be some "Key individuals" that don't get along sometimes. but, there is always conflict in social interaction, there is no utopian society but this place comes very close.

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    I've only been with IM for about 2 months, and since that time I have been given a diet plan and a workout plan, and all the support I could ever want, I had searched and searched sites until I was invited to this one, and I have to tell you, I have learned more here than in 3 months of searching other sites, and I could show you the piles of papers I have on nutrition, muscles(that I didn't even know I had), supplements and exercise and most of all the dedication that the members here have towards their healthy life styles.............believe me when I say I'm grateful to have been invited here, and I still don't know who invited me, and W8 immediately took me under her wing and has started a transformation in my life, not only with my body but with my beliefs towards health and the life style I am working towards, I came here with every part of my body aching from my arthritis and lupus, and I have learned more from reading these threads about how to care for my pain than I have received from my own doctor, if you go to any of the journals you can see how serious members can be about diet and workouts.....................On the lighter side of things, the members in this forum are really funny, I have laughed so much in the past 2 months, and had alot of fun, I love the way everyone goofs on everyone else, it's a riot. there is obviously a place for the humor and a place for education, and I think the threads are seperated perfectly, I also believe that everyone contributes here, if they have nutrition info they share it, it they have questions about exercises they ask and are given responses and if they have something funny to share they do, I think this forum is balanced out nicely........sorry for the book, but I really support this forum and the members here, you are changing my life and most of you don't even know it, I'm very thankful............
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    bumping I'm curious
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    DM i do agree with you about some of these things....
    Maybe a little more seriousness where it is appropriate.
    However i do come here for a good laugh because i know that there are alot of people on here that share the same stresses as i do with training and dieting.
    Yes i did create a similar post about the quality of the site when i first came back...but then once i looked around i found exactely what i was looking for....so my suggestion to you is to create areas in this forum for serious topics that you really want to learn about and at least i will be respectful and not treat your valid ?'s as jokes.
    A suggestion box is put on the site now isnt it? cause if i think that something should be changed....you know me mrs. out spoken i am gonna use it.
    have a great one...and i promise that will help anyone on any subject that i feel qualified to do so.

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    Well, when I turn the serious cheek, I go to those for the answers and they know who they are and I always get what I need and in quality!

    I think the advice, suggestions, new information and idea's provided by our experts are as equal if not far superior to the other boards.

    However, I think our board is different from that of a MM.com etc. As a matter of fact, while lurking there recently, I see it to be a lot looser than a year ago! They seem to be having some fun as well. As for what separates us from them is that were not constantly having our posts banned or policed for the tedious things such as saying Fuck or shit or ass!

    So should we limit our BS on this forum or not? I say not, because if a topic needs to be covered without interruption of PW's such a myself then all the members from that group will let me know. If I do, Prince will let us or me know and from there, I will stay out of the thread until I have something relevant to say or worth reading.

    Oh yeah, another difference bt/ IM and MM is that Prince is not conjuring up pay clubs and pay area's galore!

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    You've all missed the point...already.
    The reason I posted this here is beacause it was the only "general" forum @ IM....wouldn't have made sense to put in diet. Secondly, I am not saying that we need to be serious in open chat....kinda defeats the purpose, don't you think? My point was that those who frequent the "open chat" are less likely to be taken seriously in other areas...based on the comments made elsewhere by another individual.

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    Oh yeah, I guess I did miss it a little but I just wanted to restate the serious side to the non serious side (open chat). I have to agree with you there and you know what? I stated that in J'bo's thread where she reintroduced herself. Then, I went on a speil about how I supposedly am not taking serious by some of the people and you know what? It doesn't bother me one iota, either.

    Hmmmn... let's see, I was ACE certified and re-certified last year and have 4 clients that have no problems with my techniques or my training etc...

    When I lose those clients without a justifiable reason, then I 'll worry!

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    That is totally untrue, your funny DaMayor but I still check out your journal and a lot of other characters here, is it so shocking that one person can be both funny and yet knowledgeable ..........
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    I've never claimed to be knowledgeable....nor funny, for that matter.
    I'm just saying that there is a certain amount of bias that exists here, and it is detremental. As crash said, this isn't a Utopian Society, However, there should still be a certain level of professionalism and courtesy across the board...and I don't think that's the case. I am not directing this at a single individual..it's just a general condition. And I'm not saying this because I feel slighted or left out in any way...I've had my share of questions answered as well...otherwise, I wouldn't have continued to come back to IM. Hey, I'm not the only one who's noticed this.....I'm just the one idiotic enough to bring it up.

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    I have been here super long time.

    I better than you all!!

    OMFG JOKE!!

    I don't see any problems with this place, although I'm hardly anywhere but this open chat forum, an open chat forum filled with freaks and weird ass people.

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    Who is biased...and against whom?

    Can you explain this thread to me, and what you're talking about please?


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    I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say anything..............






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    I already said, I'm not calling anybody out. It's just a certain posture some here maintain....

    Oh, and by the way, I'd like to thank all of you who have offerred ideas and/or comments.....good job.

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    I tend to agree with DaMayor... I've often felt like my advice and opinions weren't taken seriously by some of the "more advanced" BB'ers here.

    Just because I don't look as good as J'Bo or w8... YET... doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

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    I think I'm lost too!



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    Originally posted by butterfly

    Just because I don't look as good as J'Bo or w8... YET... doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

    I've pretty much given up on trying to help people, unless they ask me for it
    B.......................don't sell yourself short. (let's see how to say this without making fade mad?) You are a hottie!!!!!!!!!!
    You can give me advice anytime!!!






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    Huh?

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    Originally posted by dg806
    B.......................don't sell yourself short. (let's see how to say this without making fade mad?) You are a hottie!!!!!!!!!!
    You can give me advice anytime!!!
    Thanks dg! That kind of talk doesn't make fade mad, he says it makes him feel lucky
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    Part of the reason there probably have not been more action in the supplements, diet or training threads is because more of the questions have already been answered more the once. I would not trade this forum for anything else; there is not any one place on the internet I have learned and much as I have here. I have joined other boards but at the end I always end up coming back.

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    Originally posted by butterfly
    Thanks dg! That kind of talk doesn't make fade mad, he says it makes him feel lucky
    I'm glad!!!!!!!! I would hate to have him after me! And he is very lucky!
    What up Bro?????????






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    Originally posted by butterfly
    I tend to agree with DaMayor... I've often felt like my advice and opinions weren't taken seriously by some of the "more advanced" BB'ers here.

    Just because I don't look as good as J'Bo or w8... YET... doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

    I've pretty much given up on trying to help people, unless they ask me for it
    First off B'fly, do not stop helping others or offering advice. Please, your opinions and experience is well considered and valued! Although I've never told you so, but I have read what you've posted and take what you say to heart and like what I've read!

    On an continuous thought, there was never ever wrong or rights in advice of what I've read from everyone on IM.com when talking about dieting, BB, Fitness and supplements. If the advice is truly whacked then, there is a dispute of legitamacy . I truly believe that because some of us that don't have the science behind certain things does not make anyone inaccurate. I also believe in trying something and if it works then great and if it doesn't then stop. It's that simple. I basically train in the old school style and prep newbies in the gym to a fine point to where they have what they need and allow them to continue to the next level. When I feel that I am no longer productive, I will refer them to friends I know who have that experience in competition national and pro.

    Just some more thought.

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    I agree with you. But again, not the issue at hand.

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    I even think sometime my advice is not taken. But I'm not an expert either. Butterfly and Fade are a big part of this place. Tell Fade he's slacking..............................






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    Originally posted by dg806
    I even think sometime my advice is not taken. But I'm not an expert either. Butterfly and Fade are a big part of this place. Tell Fade he's slacking..............................
    Now you're making me blush

    Fade has been slacking in more than just his IM ho'ing
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    Originally posted by DaMayor
    I agree with you. But again, not the issue at hand.

    I know what your saying as I keep reminding myself by reading your first post here within this thread but it's goes deeper than that!

    Sorry for "going off" on a tangent.

    Some of us feel the same way you do but since you said it first, I decided to extend beyond that by using more examples etc.

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    Originally posted by butterfly
    Now you're making me blush

    Fade has been slacking in more than just his IM ho'ing
    (DG in his Jed Clappett voice)
    I'm gonna have to have a talk with that boy!






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    Originally posted by butterfly
    Now you're making me blush
    I bet you are sexy when you blush! Especially in that nurse's outfit!






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