Thread: One of the reasons I didn't vote for him...

have to remember that the fake war against drugs fueled the rise of the for-profit prison industrial complex in the 80's which is seen as a major growth industry to investors in the US.

everything is about money in the US.

Originally Posted by LAM

have to remember that the fake war against drugs fueled the rise of the for-profit prison industrial complex in the 80's which is seen as a major growth industry to investors in the US.

everything is about money in the US.

So it's no Obama's fault that he's continuing it?

Originally Posted by DOMS

So it's no Obama's fault that he's continuing it?

the POTUS is basically a ceremonial position in the US and has no real power. the real power has always been in the House and Senate.

have to remember that the fake war against drugs fueled the rise of the for-profit prison industrial complex in the 80's which is seen as a major growth industry to investors in the US.

* years ago the state local governments and wall street (mainly Fidelity) used to trade and sell bonds based on the offenses of criminals in the US and the length of time they were serving in incarceration. they used to make billions doing this and the interest on those bonds were paid for with our tax dollars.

look how they have prosecuted regular people for illegal file downloads of music etc. while those in the music industry are rolling over in money and buying 50million dollar G5 jets. but virtually nothing happens to those people that commit offenses in the quest for profits as they only hurt the working class usually.

everything is about money in the US.

I personally gave up on all these things long ago nothing as really ever changes for the better in the US. nothing is going to change because the entire system is corrupt. when you peel away the layers of the US version of "capitalism" as a whole it's really a shitty place in regards to how the people are prayed upon but we really have no recourse.

Originally Posted by LAM

the POTUS is basically a ceremonial position in the US and has no real power. the real power has always been in the House and Senate.

have to remember that the fake war against drugs fueled the rise of the for-profit prison industrial complex in the 80's which is seen as a major growth industry to investors in the US.

* years ago the state local governments and wall street (mainly Fidelity) used to trade and sell bonds based on the offenses of criminals in the US and the length of time they were serving in incarceration. they used to make billions doing this and the interest on those bonds were paid for with our tax dollars.

look how they have prosecuted regular people for illegal file downloads of music etc. while those in the music industry are rolling over in money and buying 50million dollar G5 jets. but virtually nothing happens to those people that commit offenses in the quest for profits as they only hurt the working class usually.

everything is about money in the US.

I personally gave up on all these things long ago nothing as really ever changes for the better in the US. nothing is going to change because the entire system is corrupt. when you peel away the layers of the US version of "capitalism" as a whole it's really a shitty place in regards to how the people are prayed upon but we really have no recourse.

dude stop, the people voted in Obama, the people voted for legal marijuana. If they revoke the legal marijuana I am in for impeachment. that will send a message to congress. And I dont smoke weed, I just think locking people up for a joint is retarded

All just a semblance of the people having any say over our government, we really don't! This is just business as usual, appease the rabble for a couple of weeks then smack, right back to reality.... just until the next election.

LAM, what type of political ideology do you subscribe to? You sound like either a libertarian or a socialist

Obama can simply tell Eric holder not to go after these states.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

LAM, what type of political ideology do you subscribe to? You sound like either a libertarian or a socialist

he's definitely not libertarian. he wants total govt to control.

Originally Posted by Swiper

he's definitely not libertarian. he wants total govt to control.

I read his reply as not a socialist or libertarian but has someone who has given up on more then our government. Someone who has given up on the possibility for change, I'm with him. This government is not worth the mental Auquish it causes me. It's built on the worst qaulities of man... And collectively we lie and tell ourselves that this is a free market democracy... It's fucking laughable... America has great potential that is hand cuffed by our functionally retarded government.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

LAM, what type of political ideology do you subscribe to? You sound like either a libertarian or a socialist

the guy knows his shit but sometimes being surrounded in one view makes your opinions lean toward one side. Just like cops dealing with criminals all the time after a while they are almost all jerks to regular people.

You'd think a guy who smoked bushels of paka would leave it alone, but of course pressure from big pharm and tobacco comes to play...

Originally Posted by maniclion

You'd think a guy who smoked bushels of paka would leave it alone, but of course pressure from big pharm and tobacco comes to play...

yep Obama is being bought and sold on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by Swiper

yep Obama is being bought and sold on a daily basis.

and every president since JFK and so will every POTUS after him.

Originally Posted by LAM

and every president since JFK and so will every POTUS after him.

Once again, I'm curious: Are you saying that GWB is also not blame for anything done during his administration. You know, since it was all set in motion before he took office?

Originally Posted by IronAddict

All just a semblance of the people having any say over our government, we really don't! This is just business as usual, appease the rabble for a couple of weeks then smack, right back to reality.... just until the next election.

the problem is many people just started paying attention to politics and economics of which most truly understand so very little about. the economic events of 2008 finally effected the entire country but the seeds were sown for that in the 80's. various pieces of legislation have effected much of the population at different times over the years but that was the first time the entire country was effected by such. the change they desire is never going to happen.

it's why I haven't "watched" the news since I got out of the Navy in '95 so to me everything out of that box is nothing more than various forms of entertainment, none of it to be taken as fact. there is so much stuff in the national security archives about the manipulation of public opinion and how they have been doing it for decades and decades. and the people that have never really left the US will never understand the bubble of illusion they have been living in.

politics in the US is entrenched with the markets and capital holders and that is who they serve now, 1%ers in office passing legislation that benefits the 1%. the World Bank, BIS and FSB all write about how the current global economy (fake economic growth) is unsustainable but unless a person actually goes to their sites and reads the papers you will never hear about it. nothing really negative about finance every really gets spoken in US media as it's one of those taboo subjects. the rise of the financial sector in the US in the 80's and decline of the real economy could that possibly be cause and effect? nah...

making money out of thin air...how long was it going to be before the limited good effects of financial innovation stopped and the negative effects are all that remain. the law of diminishing returns at work once again.

and yes I have given up. why not fuck it I don't have any kids and neither does my sister so after we die the good branch of our family tree ends.

how do things get better when bad legislation is never reversed and our government supported fully by the media monopoly lies and deceives us decade after decade. only those that believe in magical thinking could come to another conclusion and I don't subscribe to such nonsense.

Originally Posted by Swiper

he's definitely not libertarian. he wants total govt to control.

you haven't got a single clue. it's the ideologues that say extreme inequality doesn't matter, wanted low taxes on capital and corp profits along with the deregulation of the markets that have fueled the rise and growth of the fed government and simply following the timeline of the growth of each is proof positive of this.

I hope you are enjoying the fruits of your blind economic ideology that you obviously haven't really thought much about. the country's in the OECD that are not imploded have not embraced the same. the study of comparative economics makes it obvious as to what works and does not in reality.

Originally Posted by LAM

the problem is many people just started paying attention to politics and economics of which most truly understand so very little about. the economic events of 2008 finally effected the entire country but the seeds were sown for that in the 80's. various pieces of legislation have effected much of the population at different times over the years but that was the first time the entire country was effected by such. the change they desire is never going to happen.

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making money out of thin air...how long was it going to be before the limited good effects of financial innovation stopped and the negative effects are all that remain. the law of diminishing returns at work once again.

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while I agree with your whole tread... These two points are going to be if not already have been the diesese that kills us.

FDR was a piece of shit cripple who presided over the longest period of misery in US history with his know-it-all big government collectivist bullshit. Kind of like the clown we have now.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us...crambling.html

On top of the fact that he has been fairly ineffective at doing his job...

Has nothing to do with 'doing his job.'

You just disagree with him on this issue.

The Feds should stay out of state affairs on matters like this.

More states in the future will decriminalize MJ.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

LAM, what type of political ideology do you subscribe to? You sound like either a libertarian or a socialist

Both of these are close to being on the opposite side of the spectrum.