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    Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?
    Thursday, January 03, 2013 by: J. D. Heyes

    (NaturalNews) Are lawmakers and the governor's office conspiring to introduce and pass brand-new legislation that would necessarily criminalize all firearms in the state by the end of this week?

    Perhaps, according to a blog post at TheTruthAboutGuns.com website, though no one knows for sure at this point.

    In a press release, the Illinois State Rifle Association, a pro-Second Amendment advocacy group, said it has "learned from a credible source that Illinois Senate President John Cullerton will introduce a so called 'assault weapons' ban on Wednesday when the legislature returns for its 'lame duck' session."

    The press release went onto say:

    Cullerton hopes to ramrod the bill through and get it to Governor Quinn for signature by Friday. If he is successful at doing so, nearly every gun you currently own will be banned and will be subject to confiscation by the Illinois State Police. Based on what we know about Cullerton's bill, firearms that would be banned include all semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Pump action shotguns would be banned as well. This would be a very comprehensive ban that would include not only so-called "assault weapons" but also such classics as M1 Garands and 1911-based pistols. There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering. You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State Police to avoid prosecution.

    Uncertainty surrounding the issue

    A spokeswoman at ISRA who asked not to be identified told Natural News that the organization was still in the process of verifying the report, but that, as of Wednesday evening, officials had not yet confirmed it.

    A message was left at Cullerton's Senate office in Springfield, but no calls were returned by press time.

    An investigation into the report by Natural News sheds further light on the story. According to this press release posted on the website of the Illinois General Assembly, Cullerton introduced Senate Bill (SB) 681 in February 2011, a measure that amended the state's Firearm Owners Identification Card Act to permit "an Illinois resident to purchase ammunition from a person within or outside of Illinois if shipment is by United States mail or by a private express carrier authorized by federal law to ship ammunition," according to a legislative summary.

    The bill required "that a resident purchasing ammunition within or outside the State of Illinois must provide the seller with a copy of his or her valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and either his or her Illinois driver's license or Illinois State Identification Card prior to the shipment of the ammunition."

    The measure passed both houses of the General Assembly May 9, 2012, and was sent to Gov. Pat Quinn on June 9 for his signature, which he did not give.

    Ill. Governor recommended banning assault weapons

    Instead, the governor issued what is known as an amendatory veto, effectively rejecting the measure but informing lawmakers he would sign it if it contained additional provisions he recommended.

    In issuing his amendatory veto July 31, the governor would agree to sign the measure only if it contained a complete assault weapons ban, among other provisions. Here is a summary of his amendatory veto:

    Proposes replacing the current provisions of the bill with amendments to the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a semi-automatic assault weapon, an assault weapon attachment, any .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. Provides that beginning 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

    "As Governor, it is my foremost duty to protect the citizens of Illinois, especially our children, from deadly violence," Quinn wrote in a letter to the General Assembly.

    "I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution- the right to bear arms," he said. "However, the proliferation of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines undermines public safety and the right of personal security of every citizen."

    "Banning assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines will make Illinois a safer place to live," Quinn wrote.

    According to the Illinois General Assembly's legislative calendar on SB 681, only the provisions that Cullerton introduced eventually passed and became law Dec. 6 because both chambers went onto override Quinn's veto within the past month.

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    Chicago had 500 homicides last year and has no control over the gun violence. Not giving excuses, just pointing out what will be the repetitive argument.
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    Belleville Capt. Donald Sax said restaurant manager David Rice then approached and told one of the detectives that a diner had complained about seeing one of the detectives carrying a gun.
    Even though the detective told Rice all at the table were police officers, Rice insisted the detectives take their guns back out to their cars, Sax said.
    John Carrigan, 72, of rural Washington County, Ill., said he understood the concern some diners at Denny?s might have had. ?I?d have been scared to see a woman walk in with a gun nowadays with all the shootings,? he said.
    Belleville cops booted from Denny's for toting guns : Stltoday

    I'm beginning to realize just how irrational these people are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troubador View Post
    Belleville cops booted from Denny's for toting guns : Stltoday

    I'm beginning to realize just how irrational these people are.
    Dont get me wrong Im not a huge fan of cops on the whole, but this is just ridiculous!

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    (NaturalNews) Are lawmakers and the governor's office conspiring to introduce and pass brand-new legislation that would necessarily criminalize all firearms in the state by the end of this week..






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    cant see it coming close to getting passed.
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    Good thing I don't reside in that shithole of a state. That's total bullshit. No way it will even make it out of this prick's hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    Chicago had 500 homicides last year and has no control over the gun violence. Not giving excuses, just pointing out what will be the repetitive argument.
    How many of these homicides were at the hands of law abiding Licenced gun owners? They are putting restrictions on law abiding citizens while the thugs run wild.

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    Ever notice the states with the most restrictive gun laws have the higher populations of blacks? I say gun laws are RACIST!

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDDOG309 View Post
    How many of these homicides were at the hands of law abiding Licenced gun owners? They are putting restrictions on law abiding citizens while the thugs run wild.

    totally concure... And don't think this will pass...my point is that this 500 homicides are going to be the stat that propels this movement. The stat is without proper lodgic, but since when do we need proper lodgic to push a political agenda?
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    Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    Good thing I don't reside in that shithole of a state. That's total bullshit. No way it will even make it out of this prick's hands.
    Illinois/chicago is a perfect example of how great of a job Obama did at "community organizing" nothing but a huge failure just like his presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    Good thing I don't reside in that shithole of a state. That's total bullshit. No way it will even make it out of this prick's hands.
    I live hear and about 3 years ago there was serious talk about having a concealed carry permit. Thinking that might control this violence... It's all political back and forth. Things change way too slow to concern this ban as realistic

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    Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I live hear and about 3 years ago there was serious talk about having a concealed carry permit. Thinking that might control this violence... It's all political back and forth. Things change way too slow to concern this ban as realistic
    well now this states legislature has 6 months to come up with a concealed carry law. it was mandated by a federal court. so there's some hope.,,,,
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    Re: Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    well now this states legislature has 6 months to come up with a concealed carry law. it was mandated by a federal court. so there's some hope.,,,,
    Wasn't it open carry

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    Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    Quote Originally Posted by gixxermaniak View Post
    Wasn't it open carry
    pretty sure the new law has to be concealed carry. I hope so otherwise open carrying people will get harassed by cops on a daily basis.
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    Re: Freedom alert: Illinois seeking to criminalize ALL firearms by this Friday?

    I know I would because I would express the shit out of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    pretty sure the new law has to be concealed carry. I hope so otherwise open carrying people will get harassed by cops on a daily basis.
    If I lived in that backward state I would open carry two pistols. One on each side. Get harassed by the cops? Tell them to fuck off.
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    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Illinois/chicago is a perfect example of how great of a job Obama did at "community organizing" nothing but a huge failure just like his presidency.
    you don't even know what a community organizer does...LOL

    and it was organized crime in the early 1800's along with a booming industrial economy that put Chi town on the map. my god your dumb.
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    Bullshit is the only way to describe this. Imagine if that shit passed what would happen? And how are the people that hunt suppose to hunt? Banning shotguns? Really? It's a Midwest state and there is a tonnnnnnn of people that hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    you don't even know what a community organizer does...LOL

    and it was organized crime in the early 1800's along with a booming industrial economy that put Chi town on the map. my god your dumb.
    LOL you're nothing but an Obama nut sucker.

    "you're" Before you call someone dumb maybe you should check your writing skills. moron

    And who said anything about putting Chicago on the map? are you hallucinating again? lay off the drugs it's obviously clouding your judgment.


    BTW did you get your nasty gyno fixed yet? that's pretty disgusting. they're probably the only pair of tits you've touch in years so i can kind of see why you probably haven't even bothered to get it fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDDOG309 View Post
    How many of these homicides were at the hands of law abiding Licenced gun owners? They are putting restrictions on law abiding citizens while the thugs run wild.

    That would be looking at guns and homicide rationally and accuralty. Not Politically!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    pretty sure the new law has to be concealed carry. I hope so otherwise open carrying people will get harassed by cops on a daily basis.
    Concealed carry
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagbender View Post
    Concealed carry
    Then it will be concealed carry as much as possible
    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    If they want to ban every modern firearm then carry a muzzle loader pistol with a miniball and let them see how horrible that is when someone gets their shit all fucked up from one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    LOL you're nothing but an Obama nut sucker.

    "you're" Before you call someone dumb maybe you should check your writing skills. moron

    And who said anything about putting Chicago on the map? are you hallucinating again? lay off the drugs it's obviously clouding your judgment.


    BTW did you get your nasty gyno fixed yet? that's pretty disgusting. they're probably the only pair of tits you've touch in years so i can kind of see why you probably haven't even bothered to get it fixed.
    not gyno but i can probably close grip bench more than you can dead lift

    and you might want to try learning history. criminal activity and wealthy economy's go hand in hand. which is why organized crime in the US was concentrated in the north as that's were the major industry is.

    hard to steal and extort money from people with neither like the agricultural industry of the southern states, etc. .....history and economic lesson is over for today retard
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    Revealed: How police officers in Illinois are allowed to work 'half-drunk' with blood alcohol levels under .08 ruled okay in multiple countiesBy NINA GOLGOWSKI
    PUBLISHED: 15:14 EST, 15 February 2013 | UPDATED: 15:55 EST, 15 February 2013

    A shocking new report has uncovered union contracts that allow police officers in Illinois to show up for duty while ?half-drunk? or up to one-percent under the state?s legal limit.

    Three departments in suburban Illinois permit alcohol limits of up to .05 while two others up to .079 - or one percentage below the state's definition of being drunk - the report by the Better Government Association found.
    The contracts reason a glass of wine taken with dinner before an overnight shift or a shot of cough medicine or mouth wash as possible sources for the blood and alcohol levels.



    According to the reportofficers in Forest Park, Glendale Heights and South Barrington have a limit of .049 while officers in Elmwood Park and Oak Park must stay just beneath .08.
    'Some of these police officers are driving cars at high speeds, carrying guns, making arrests, and dealing with high stress situations, even though they have enough alcohol in their blood to be considered close to drunk,' BGA president and CEO Andy Shaw told CBS Chicago.
    Westchester Mayor Sam Pulia agrees.
    Police officers in Illinois allowed to work 'half-drunk' with blood alcohol levels under .08 OK in multiple counties | Mail Online
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