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how many trillions have been spent?
On jobs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
I'm not willing to defend him, I'm just posting stats that suggest that there has been a positive improvement in jobs since he took office.
That's a good question for our military.Quote:
Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
His rating is the best since 08.
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Originally Posted by exphys88
as opposed to a negative improvement? :thinking:
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
apparently 70% less than GWB...Quote:
Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
The US Economy in Charts
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY February 2012
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...entialecon.pdf
Obama inherited the poorest working class in the US in 60 years with record household debt at 100% of US GDP. in no other time in US history has the working class lost 40% of their total wealth. in previous recessions no more than 3-4% of household wealth had ever been lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
the negative effects of Bush admin policy will last decades
Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share (PRS85006173) - FRED - St. Louis Fed
this topic has been beat to death. there's no magic wands to fix the problems of the US economy cause high taxes aint it.
Is Obama really that bad?
It's hard to make a comparison when the graph you posted is mostly just Obama.
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/mikep...New-Jobs-1.png
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/mikep...New-Jobs-3.png
I wasn't making a comparison, just posting job statistics. It seems that anti Obama folks like to say he's doing a terrible job at creating jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
How else would we know how well he's doing creating jobs if not by comparison? Net job creation during his administration is terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
Wouldn't a better comparison be w someone who came into office w the situation he did?Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
I'm assuming you're a big Clinton fan now?
as was the recession recovery of 2001 and every recession recovery from now on in the US. if you think this is bad wait until the next recession.Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
I posted the figures that excluded negative months too. A comparison with someone who came into office with a similar situation? Like FDR? That's there also.Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
I'm not a Clinton fan but the numbers don't lie and during his administration a lot of jobs were created and the republicans controlled congress.
They also controlled congress during 6 of bush junior years too.Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
Is it your opinion that a republican would've created more jobs the last 4 years?
stats can be made to serve any side of an argument the person wants...that's why lam is a f'n libtard dumbass...Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
i can honestly say i was ALOT BETTER OFF when bush was president...it's all been downhill since the affirmative action presidency happened...
They can also be used to demonstrate what's going on, and they're used all the time w great success. Our modern medicine is a great example.Quote:
Originally Posted by irish_2003
The point is that jobs have grown 34 months in a row. Now, some people assert that a republican would've created more jobs, but that's just speculation.
yes my empirical data used by economists, the FED, World Bank, IMF, FSB, BIS, the OECD and world governments vs your tv info from right wing politicians....and who"s the dumb-ass? hint...look in the mirrorQuote:
Originally Posted by irish_2003
My house lost 60% of its value in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by irish_2003
Not necessarily. McCain is a fucktard too.Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
everything Irish knows about econ can fit on the back of a postage stamp. the fact that he thinks a debt based economy fueled by financial deregulation and rent seeking was good tells how what he knows about econ...nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
But he had palin to help him...Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
She's a full blown real American woman
does that make you feel better about yourself? mocking and saying things like that? does it make you more proud of your online degrees and your lack of social acceptance and inability to see Barry Soetero for what he really is?Quote:
Originally Posted by LAM
i don't expect you to answer these questions...you never answer anyone's questions and always tap dance around them...i expect you to do the typical libtard thing and mock, bash, say something you think is funny, and possibly answer my questions with your own questions and never answer them directly...you've become boring and predictable...
I forgot about the Palin factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
So, what would've created more jobs in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by troubador
the only way to create jobs is to free up money...that's only gonna come from getting gas prices back below $2....everyone had more money to spend...Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
Does a president decide those prices? Sounds like you're for a higher minimum wage.Quote:
Originally Posted by irish_2003
hell no...nobody works for min wage anyway...raising it only causes inflation...the raising min wage argument by the left is a dumb argument...and yes...bush opened up drilling and prices dropped nearly half for a while before the left fucked it up again...Quote:
Originally Posted by exphys88
