Thread: Did Barry Lie

what president hasnt?

Thought this thread was going to be about Barry Bonds.

ROTFLMAO!!! I've got a better question, when has he ever told the TRUTH???

Originally Posted by FUZO

now that the middle class got taxed when he said they wouldnt 77% of americans still got taxed

Someone taxed someone else before Barry taxed anyone. Therefor, Barry cannot be blamed.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Someone taxed someone else before Barry taxed anyone. Therefor, Barry cannot be blamed.

I believe that would be George Washington after the revolutionary war.

OP:

A politician....lied?


Oh my lawd....never thought it was possible.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Someone taxed someone else before Barry taxed anyone. Therefor, Barry cannot be blamed.

name one tax free society in the modern world?

name one tax free society in the world that used a fiat currency? there isn't one. taxes are how a fiat currency derives it's value as it has no intrinsic value, nothing but a light cloth with printing on it.

any form of money or currency is nothing more than a medium of exchange for labor, goods or services.

bla bloa bla... I remember these words... I will not raise taxes on the middle class. Yet medical insurance at my work is now 700$ a month for two people to have and I lost over 100$ a month in taxes...

Originally Posted by LAM

name one tax free society in the modern world?

name one tax free society in the world that used a fiat currency? there isn't one. taxes are how a fiat currency derives it's value as it has no intrinsic value, nothing but a light cloth with printing on it.

any form of money or currency is nothing more than a medium of exchange for labor, goods or services.

I already said it wasn't Obama's fault.

Did he lie? Were his lips moving? If his lips were moving then he was lying. Same as any other politician with his own brand of Utopia to sell you.

He went back on all his first election promises, why should this elections promises be any different?

Originally Posted by LAM

name one tax free society in the modern world?

name one tax free society in the world that used a fiat currency? there isn't one. taxes are how a fiat currency derives it's value as it has no intrinsic value, nothing but a light cloth with printing on it.

any form of money or currency is nothing more than a medium of exchange for labor, goods or services.

List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudia Arabia

I rise today to talk about America?s debt problem. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America?s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can?t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government?s reckless fiscal policies.[...]
Increasing America?s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ??the buck stops here.?? Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America?s debt limit.

-Barrack H. Obama

Originally Posted by bio-chem

List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudia Arabia

and? so other country's have lower taxes than the US. what are their labor union density rates? percentage of large MNE firms? size of the financial sector? corporate income taxes as a percentage of GDP? amount of social spending as a percentage of GDP? amount of the national income that goes to labor? etc...etc...etc..

you picked one economic indicator out of a good dozen...

look at page 8 of the report below. why do so many low tax country's rank at the bottom of the OECD for social justice? and the country's with low labor union density rates?

http://www.sgi-network.org/pdf/SGI11...stice_OECD.pdf

Originally Posted by bio-chem

List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudia Arabia

They have Zakat, which is mandated tithings under Muslim law.

They are making a killing on oil/gas taxes they don't need it from the people.

Originally Posted by LAM

and? so other country's have lower taxes than the US. what are their labor union density rates? percentage of large MNE firms? size of the financial sector? corporate income taxes as a percentage of GDP? amount of social spending as a percentage of GDP? amount of the national income that goes to labor? etc...etc...etc..

you picked one economic indicator out of a good dozen...

look at page 8 of the report below. why do so many low tax country's rank at the bottom of the OECD for social justice? and the country's with low labor union density rates?

http://www.sgi-network.org/pdf/SGI11...stice_OECD.pdf

can you define social justice?

Most Americans lie. But truth is this thread was pointless.

Originally Posted by maniclion

They have Zakat, which is mandated tithings under Muslim law.

They are making a killing on oil/gas taxes they don't need it from the people.

they also only have about 25-28m people...that's less than the entire population of CA or Texas. everybody forgets how the large US population effects economics.

the entire Saudi economy is based also on oil, a commodity while 30% of US GDP is based on the fake wealth and debt created by the self-serving US financial sector.

our country's couldn't be any more different in design and function

Originally Posted by Swiper

can you define social justice?

laws apply to everyone equally it doesn't matter if you have $1 or $1B dollars. pretty much the opposite of how the US functions.

Originally Posted by LAM

laws apply to everyone equally it doesn't matter if you have $1 or $1B dollars. pretty much the opposite of how the US functions.

yeah these millionaires and billionaires get shafted by being charged more for goods and or services just because they have money. discrimination at its finest

guess i'm moving to saudi arabia...cause i really dont want to pay more taxes and pay fo' sista's babies...

Originally Posted by s2h

guess i'm moving to saudi arabia...cause i really dont want to pay more taxes and pay fo' sista's babies...

You just won't be able to drink alcohol or whore around as much. Especially considering their penalties for doing such things.