Cuomo Signs Gun Legislation Into Law

**heavyiron** · 01-15-2013, 04:03 PM

Law abiding citizens are getting the shaft by misguided law makers.

New York State Gun Laws The First In Country Since Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting In Newtown

By MICHAEL VIRTANEN 01/15/13 05:26 PM ET EST ALBANY, N.Y. ? Jumping out ahead of Washington, New York enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school shooting, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and mandatory background checks for buying ammunition.

Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the Legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country. "Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

Owners of an estimated 1 million previously legal semiautomatic rifles, like the Bushmaster model used to kill 20 children and six adults in Newtown, Conn., a month ago, will be allowed to keep their weapons but will have a year to register them with police.

"When there's a pileup of events, when the federal government does not do it, the state of New York has to lead the way," said state Assemblyman Joseph Lentol, a Brooklyn Democrat and co-sponsor.
In addition to outlawing a broader array of military-style weapons, the measure restricts ammunition magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, creates a more comprehensive database of people barred from owning guns, and makes New York the first state to require background checks to buy bullets. The system will also help flag customers who buy large amounts of ammo.

In another provision, therapists, doctors and other mental health professionals will be required to tell state authorities if a patient threatens to use a gun illegally. The patient's weapon could then be taken away.

Richard Aborn, president of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City, said Cuomo clearly understood gun violence is a complex issue requiring solutions more comprehensive than simply banning a particular weapon.

"I think that's an important message for the nation," he said.

In a statement, the National Rifle Association said: "These gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime."

"While lawmakers could have taken a step toward strengthening mental health reporting and focusing on criminals, they opted for trampling the rights of law-abiding gun owners in New York, and they did it under a veil of secrecy in the dark of night," the NRA said.

President Barack Obama will unveil his own proposals in response to the Newtown tragedy on Wednesday. He favors sweeping gun legislation, including a ban on assault weapons. But because of powerful opposition from the gun lobby, he is said to be weighing 19 steps he could take through executive action alone.

Those could include ordering stricter action against people who lie on gun-sale background checks, seeking to ensure more complete records in the federal database, and striking limits on federal research into gun use.

New York's law passed the state Senate, which is run by a Republican-dominated coalition, 43-18 Monday night. The Democrat-controlled Assembly approved it 104-43 Tuesday afternoon.
Republicans complained the measure was rammed through the Legislature and infringes on the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

"A lot of people say, `Why do you need these guns?'" said Assemblyman James Tedisco, a Schenectady Republican. "It's part of the freedoms and liberties we have. ... It's for our public safety. It's to protect us from our own government."

He said the bill was dangerous because it would give people a "false sense of well-being."
"You are using innocent children killed by a madman for your own political agenda," he said. "You are actually making people less safe."

Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, questioned whether other states or the federal government would follow New York's lead and said he expects the law to be challenged in court.

Previously, New York state law on assault weapons banned semiautomatics that have detachable magazines and at least two military-type features, such as a pistol grip, folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The new law will reduce that to just one feature.

It also requires background checks for even private gun sales, except those among immediate family.
In addition, it says handgun owners must renew their licenses every five years, and it increases prison sentences for using guns in various crimes or taking them on school grounds.

In a concession to the gun industry, local authorities will be allowed to withhold the identities of registered gun owners ? an issue that erupted recently when a suburban New York City newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners in its readership area.

"By making this a priority, the governor has not only saved lives but will hopefully inspire leaders in Washington also to take swift action," said Dan Gross, president of the national Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

The New York legislation sparked spirited discussion among customers at the Buffalo Gun Center in the suburb of Cheektowaga, where business was so brisk that people had to wait in line in freezing temperatures just to get in the door.

"It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ? how to put it nicely ? it's Prince Andrew Cuomo's bid for the White House," said Jim Hanley of Angola, who was waiting to buy another handgun. "I want to do it before the right is taken away. Andrew Cuomo and Barack Hussein Obama are two best gun salesmen in the history of the world."

**DOMS** · 01-15-2013, 05:31 PM

"Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

Too bad he doesn't know which side of that statement he sits on.

**Curt James** · 01-15-2013, 05:38 PM

**Curt James** · 01-15-2013, 05:39 PM

^^^^ Published on Jan 15, 2013New York Gov. Cuomo signed a bill into law Tuesday, to restrict gun sales and require reporting of threats by mentally ill. (Jan. 15)

**s2h** · 01-15-2013, 06:56 PM

Cumhole with a nice PR stunt...im sure new york state is so much safer now...i might move there..

**dogsoldier** · 01-15-2013, 07:37 PM

He is ramping up for a run for president in 2016. He sees his way into the white house is to out Obama Obama. Glad I left that state.

**Ichigo** · 01-15-2013, 07:55 PM

The state will get sued over this ridiculous law, and hopefully lose! Cuomo is such Monkey Ass Douchebag

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If this does not change i'm seriously relocating to a state that believes in the constitution!

**Ichigo** · 01-15-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

Cumhole with a nice PR stunt...im sure new york state is so much safer now...i might move there..

Yea from all the law abiding citizens

**Zaphod** · 01-15-2013, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by dogsoldier

He is ramping up for a run for president in 2016. He sees his way into the white house is to out Obama Obama. Glad I left that state.

Just imagine the smear campaign that will happen to that guy. They will find pictures of him fucking cats, licking dog asses, prancing around naked in elementary schools and jerking off to Honey Boo Boo. He'll get crushed before there is even the hint of a primary.

**troubador** · 01-15-2013, 11:22 PM

"You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

Empty rhetoric. These gun control proponents keep dropping the phrase "common sense" as though they represent reason and intelligence yet their arguments are emotional and totally vapid. Even government reports show the AWB was ineffective. They're the ones pushing for new legislation that's chips away at the right to keep and bear arms. The burden of proof lies squarely on their shoulders.

**Z499** · 01-15-2013, 11:23 PM

Yes pass the law, use common sense, look how well no guns worked with a crazy with a gun. Crazies are gonna get guns if they want them whether its legal or not then put that crazy in a crowd... Tell me how well that law protected the people. But then again I'm preaching to the choir here.

**Swiper** · 02-28-2013, 09:47 PM

7 Years for a 30 Round Clip: New York Prosecutes Vet

Infowars.com
February 28, 2013

Nate Haddad was arrested around the same time New York passed the most restrictive gun law in the country. Haddad was charged with five counts of Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Third Degree, a Class D Felony in New York State punishable by up to seven years in prison. His crime? He wanted to sell 30 round clips for an AR-15, the poster child weapon for gun-grabbers in New York and Washington, D.C.
? 7 Years for a 30 Round Clip: New York Prosecutes Vet Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

**Zaphod** · 02-28-2013, 11:33 PM

And the constitutional challenges begin.

State Supreme Court wants NYS to show good cause that gun law is constitutional | NBC-WKTV News Channel 2 - Utica News, Weather, Sports - | Local News

**jagbender** · 03-01-2013, 11:34 AM

Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

are you fucking kidding me?

**Zaphod** · 03-01-2013, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by jagbender

Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

are you fucking kidding me?

He has none of those

**Griffith** · 03-01-2013, 01:41 PM

here is the thing, most people getting ruffled over very little

some weapons that nobody needs will be banned,
there will be heaps of annoying shit you have to go through to get weapons/ammo
you will still have 90% of what u want anyway......

the govt needs to start disarming the public anyway before they start shooting the 1%ers, which wont really matter because they already have personal armies right down to their own drones ie....security contractors

**secdrl** · 03-01-2013, 11:15 PM

Right here in Maryland, they just passed one of the most restrictive gun bills in the nation. Beretta said they will most likely leave the state, pack up shop and move to a "friendlier" state. O'Malley is just like cuomo, he has presidential aspirations and believes restrictions like this lay the foundation for that opportunity. The revolution is coming.

**Zaphod** · 03-02-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Griffith

here is the thing, most people getting ruffled over very little

some weapons that nobody needs will be banned,
there will be heaps of annoying shit you have to go through to get weapons/ammo
you will still have 90% of what u want anyway......

the govt needs to start disarming the public anyway before they start shooting the 1%ers, which wont really matter because they already have personal armies right down to their own drones ie....security contractors

Which weapons don't we "need"? Besides, it isn't a matter of need. If I want to buy an AR chambered in .50 Beowulf then, dammit, I should be able to buy it. If I want the unreliability of a drum magazine for a rifle then I should be able to get the as well. On top of that we shouldn't have to go through anything to buy guns and ammo. Once you give up a little they will go for the rest in short order.

**Zaphod** · 03-02-2013, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by secdrl

Right here in Maryland, they just passed one of the most restrictive gun bills in the nation. Beretta said they will most likely leave the state, pack up shop and move to a "friendlier" state. O'Malley is just like cuomo, he has presidential aspirations and believes restrictions like this lay the foundation for that opportunity. The revolution is coming.

He will find those presidential aspirations will come to nothing buy trying to pass unconstitutional legislation.

And the next revolution, I believe, isn't far off.

**ALBOB** · 03-05-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Griffith

here is the thing, most people getting ruffled over very little

some weapons that nobody needs will be banned,
there will be heaps of annoying shit you have to go through to get weapons/ammo
you will still have 90% of what u want anyway......

the govt needs to start disarming the public anyway before they start shooting the 1%ers, which wont really matter because they already have personal armies right down to their own drones ie....security contractors

March 5th and we have our first contestant for dumbest post of the year.

**Intense** · 03-05-2013, 10:56 AM

"You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

Umm no, no you cant. Strong logic

Originally Posted by Griffith

here is the thing, most people getting ruffled over very little

Originally Posted by Griffith

some weapons that nobody needs will be banned,
there will be heaps of annoying shit you have to go through to get weapons/ammo
you will still have 90% of what u want anyway......

the govt needs to start disarming the public anyway before they start shooting the 1%ers, which wont really matter because they already have personal armies right down to their own drones ie....security contractors

**jagbender** · 03-05-2013, 02:31 PM

**jay_steel** · 03-05-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Griffith

here is the thing, most people getting ruffled over very little

some weapons that nobody needs will be banned,
there will be heaps of annoying shit you have to go through to get weapons/ammo
you will still have 90% of what u want anyway......

the govt needs to start disarming the public anyway before they start shooting the 1%ers, which wont really matter because they already have personal armies right down to their own drones ie....security contractors

Name a gun that nobody needs? If you mean the AR then you need to do some research..

The AR is one of the best home defence guns there is period. Small .223 round means little to no recoil unlike a shotgun and the round is designed not to go through its target but made to rip through the internals of the enemy from bouncing off of bones and ect. It is VERY accurate much more then a shotgun and a pistol which all combined will reduce the chances of collateral damage. It is a very easy gun to operate period my 12 year old sister has her own and operates and maintains it her self.

As for magazine size that is stupid to limit a law biding citizen to 10rnds. I have yet to see a criminal in CA where 10rnd magazines are enforced only have a 10rnd mag they all have 30rnds. So what does that tell me if I want to obey the law and protect my family is I better be able to reload that gun FAST or I may be shot.

Also the AR-15 is not an assault rifle it is a varment rifle. The A5 and M16 are assault rifles, both are select fire with options of semi and burst. There is no gun though period that is not important..

My family and I plan on buying a BMG together to keep in Utah at our family property to do LONG range target shooting. To you you may see guns as a means to kill people but I see them as a means of entertainment and sport. If its knocking down a buck for 300 yards or shooting clays on our property

**Ichigo** · 03-07-2013, 05:32 PM

THis is a current map of all the counties against the unsafe act.

So if you live in any of the "Not yet proposed" counties please contact your gov officials. However since i live in nyc and the ultimate supreme petty tyrant blunderburg calling the shots were assed out.

**bio-chem** · 03-07-2013, 06:35 PM

Stupidity. Wow.
10 rounds is too many 7 will protect the people?

NEED was established by the founders when they wrote the second amendment. Need doesn't have to be established to purchase a car, boat, tobacco, beef, or beanie baby. Prove why I don't have a right to spend my money on it first you ridiculous asshat.

Large purchases of ammo will be flagged? What a stupid rule. That will accomplish all of jack shit. Damn you new yorkers are stupid for voting these guys in. Thank god Utah will soon allow concealed carry without a license.

**troubador** · 03-07-2013, 06:50 PM

Can't remember if this was posted already. In NY possession of a 11+ round magazine is a worse offense than luring a child and persistent sexual abuse.
New York: Penalties for large capacity magazines redux | Radio Vice Online

**troubador** · 03-07-2013, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ichigo

THis is a current map of all the counties against the unsafe act.

So if you live in any of the "Not yet proposed" counties please contact your gov officials. However since i live in nyc and the ultimate supreme petty tyrant blunderburg calling the shots were assed out.

That's why I oppose the popular vote. It doesn't make sense to have people living in large cities deciding what's best for someone living on a ranch in Montana. Of course, if the federal government abided by the constitution and stayed out of states issues it wouldn't be a problem to begin with.

(Disclaimer for retards: I know we're talking about the state of NY and not a federal law)

**Ichigo** · 03-20-2013, 01:40 PM

The latest updated opposition map. As you can see we suck in nyc.

**DOMS** · 03-20-2013, 01:42 PM

I hope they enjoy their coming crime wave.

**jagbender** · 03-20-2013, 02:48 PM

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