Thread: Pro 2nd Amendment - email your elected officials easily

Video: Mayor Backs Second Amendment After Councilman Tries to Eject Armed Veteran


Anti-gun bureaucrat attempted to pass motion to have firearms confiscated
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
January 24, 2013
A fascinating scene played out at a small town council meeting last week when a Mayor stood up for the second amendment after a council member tried to pass a motion that would have forced an armed veteran with a concealed carry permit to have his gun confiscated by police.

The incident, which occurred in Oak Harbor, Washington, began when Lucas Yonkman, a disabled veteran who fought in Afghanistan, stood up to speak in defense of the second amendment in the context of an attempt by one of the council members to have guns banned from public places like city parks.

?I carry a weapon every day for the purpose of protecting people,? said Yonkman, adding that there should be more firearms safety training for children. ?The American people should be very careful about messing with the second amendment and changing it?.it?s very important that it?s there for not just personal protection but the protection of the American people,? he concluded.

After Yonkman sat down again, councilman Rick Almberg demanded to know if Yonkman was ?armed right now,? to which Mayor Scott Dudley responded, ?would it matter?? ?It does to me,? responded Almberg.

Dudley then turned to the city attorney to find out if it was necessary to ask the question, to which Attorney Grant Weed responded that it was not in the procedure for council members to ask questions of citizens.

?This is the time for citizens to address the council, not the other way around,? said Weed.

Returning to the microphone, Yonkman said he was comfortable in answering the question and stated, ?Yes I have a concealed carry permit and I am concealed carrying at this moment. I would hope people would feel comfortable with that due to the fact that I am a trained professional with a weapon and I served my country for over five years in Afghanistan, sustained wounds in protection of those rights, and if there was an issue I would protect any person ? whether I knew them or not ? with my own life.?

Councilman Almberg then immediately responded by making a motion to have citizens entering the council chamber ?check their weapon with the police chief?.or to leave the premises.?

Almberg?s motion was seconded and a vote was taken, with the motion being defeated 4-2.

?That motion does not pass,? said the Mayor, to which Almberg responded, ?Thank you Mayor, if I may I?ll excuse myself at this time,? before leaving the room.

A short time later, Mayor Dudley again brought up the motion, asking Attorney Weed about the legality of the motion if it had passed.

Weed responded by stating that the motion would have been ?invalid and unenforceable?.

Mayor Dudley then apologized to Yonkman, pointing out that the two council members who voted for the motion were the same two who had tried to ban Yonkman from wearing a hat in council chambers.

?They are now trying to take your right to bear arms away,? said Dudley, adding that he felt safer, not fearful or uncomfortable, because of Yonkman?s attendance.

?I think it definitely opens the eyes of the public in reference to how some elected officials are choosing to go up and beyond the scope of their elected position to take away your rights,? said the Mayor.

Dudley then cited the oath he took as a city council member to ?support the Constitution of the United States.?

?We have to take that oath, this evening we had a couple of council members who were doing just the opposite,? said Dudley, before apologizing again to Yonkman.

?We need to remember the oath that we took?.that we are not able to, no matter how much you want to, infringe on the rights of others, that?s not our job, we are not able to do that,? concluded Dudley.

Mayor Dudley?s actions in standing up for the second amendment in the face of Rick Almberg?s attempts to have it eviscerated are commendable and should set an example for other public officials across the country.
? Video: Mayor Backs Second Amendment After Councilman Tries to Eject Armed Veteran Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

and if they give you some bullshit answer like it's a particular type of gun, movies, and or video games write the motherfuckers back and let them know scapegoating will cost them your vote.

time to lock up the batshit crazy folks again not penalize the sane because mental institutions are expensive.

NO SHOTS FIRED: HOME INTRUDERS DECIDE NOT TO STICK AROUND AFTER SEEING THEIR ?VICTIM? HOLDING AN AR-15


Two home intruders, one holding a handgun, broke into a New York apartment on Tuesday and waited at the bottom of the stairs for a potential ?victim? to come down. While their intentions are unknown, it is clear they were criminals up to no good.
After hearing some noise coming from the basement, Christopher Boise, a student at Rochester Institute of Technology, went to check it out.
?They were waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs,? Boise told WHAM-TV. When they saw him, the man with the gun pointed the barrel towards him.
Relying on pure instinct, Boise let out a blood-curdling scream in order to alert his roommate, Raymond, who is also a RIT student.
?It wasn?t like a, ?I stepped by stepped on a piece of glass? kind of scream,? Raymond said. ?So, I instinctively went to my gun bag.?
In that bag was a AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, one of the very guns at the center of the current gun control debate.

bout five seconds after he retrieved his gun, one of the intruders began opening the door to the room where he was waiting. But he was ready.
?By the time I had it out and ready, one of the men came at my door, slowly opened it, saw that there was a barrel on the other side and from there backed out,? Raymond recalled.
After seeing the barrel of an AR-15 staring them in the face, the two men fled from the apartment. No shots were fired and no one was injured. In fact, the rifle wasn?t even loaded at the time of the incident, Raymond said.

It?s not the kind of story that always makes national headlines as bullets never went flying, but it certainly shows why so many Americans are adamant about protecting the Second Amendment as it is written in the U.S. Constitution. It also shows that, in some cases, a gun doesn?t even have to be used in order for it to protect its owner and others.

?I?m happy he saved my life. I was very thankful he had his (gun),? Boise said of his roommate.
Rochester Police Chief James Sheppard said Raymond?s gun was legal and effectively protected his property.
?We?re thankful that no one was injured,? he said.
Police reportedly found BB rounds near a broken glass window. It?s unclear if the handgun used in the home invasion was a BB gun.
No Shots Fired: Home Intruders Decide Not to Stick Around After Seeing Their ?Victim? Holding an AR-15 | Video | TheBlaze.com

this is not the issue to sit back on. get your voice heard. use the links provided. it only takes a couple quick minutes and has, and will have a lasting impact on this country.

Done!

Originally Posted by Little Wing

and if they give you some bullshit answer like it's a particular type of gun, movies, and or video games write the motherfuckers back and let them know scapegoating will cost them your vote.

time to lock up the batshit crazy folks again not penalize the sane because mental institutions are expensive.

I get the automatic form letters saying "thank you for supporting more gun control." I reply to them "obviously you didn't read my message."

I find it hullarious of all the people who voted for Obama between the forum and facebook who are surpised this is happening. The only thing this clown cares to do it slowly take away our rights as a free country. He does not care about employment and ect. He wants the gov't to control and dictate our lives.

Originally Posted by jay_steel

I find it hullarious of all the people who voted for Obama between the forum and facebook who are surpised this is happening. The only thing this clown cares to do it slowly take away our rights as a free country. He does not care about employment and ect. He wants the gov't to control and dictate our lives.

The gun lobby failed by not hitting obama hard enough during the elections. we should have gone after obama hard with everything. Now we have to deal with this crap.

Obumma wants to enslave Americans. The only way of doing that is to take away our guns our right to defend ourselves!

Gun control is going to be the line in the sand for Obama!

Does anyone seriously think flip flop would have not done anything in the way of gun control when facing this latest cluster of shootings?

During his campaign against Kennedy, Romney supported two gun control measures -- the Brady Bill, which required background checks for gun purchases, and a ban on certain types of assault weapons. Both were strongly opposed by most gun-rights advocates.

In a July 1994 question-and-answer session with voters arranged by the Boston Herald, Romney "reaffirmed" his support for both measures. "I don't think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime, but I think it will have a positive effect," Romney said.

In a subsequent interview published on Sept. 23, 1994, Romney said, "I don't want special-interest groups making this their campaign. I don't want their money. I don't want their help. This is my race." In the interview, Romney specifically mentioned gun-rights advocates, acknowledging that his stands on the two gun-control measures would put him at odds with such groups.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," he said, referring to the National Rifle Association. "I don't line up with a lot of special interest groups."

Then, in his 2002 race for governor, Romney said during a debate against against Democrat Shannon O'Brien, "We have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them."

In 2004, in the middle of his single four-year term as governor, Romney signed a permanent ban on assault weapons -- reportedly the first such state law in the country. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense," the Globe quoted Romney as saying. "They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

Originally Posted by Zaphod

I get the automatic form letters saying "thank you for supporting more gun control." I reply to them "obviously you didn't read my message."

\\

I get the same shit too. "They" are turning a blind eye to Americans. We will not take this shit!

call them.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Does anyone seriously think flip flop would have not done anything in the way of gun control when facing this latest cluster of shootings?

During his campaign against Kennedy, Romney supported two gun control measures -- the Brady Bill, which required background checks for gun purchases, and a ban on certain types of assault weapons. Both were strongly opposed by most gun-rights advocates.

In a July 1994 question-and-answer session with voters arranged by the Boston Herald, Romney "reaffirmed" his support for both measures. "I don't think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime, but I think it will have a positive effect," Romney said.

In a subsequent interview published on Sept. 23, 1994, Romney said, "I don't want special-interest groups making this their campaign. I don't want their money. I don't want their help. This is my race." In the interview, Romney specifically mentioned gun-rights advocates, acknowledging that his stands on the two gun-control measures would put him at odds with such groups.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," he said, referring to the National Rifle Association. "I don't line up with a lot of special interest groups."

Then, in his 2002 race for governor, Romney said during a debate against against Democrat Shannon O'Brien, "We have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them."

In 2004, in the middle of his single four-year term as governor, Romney signed a permanent ban on assault weapons -- reportedly the first such state law in the country. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense," the Globe quoted Romney as saying. "They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

None of the gun Ban legislation did any good! The only people it affected was LAW ABIDING people! Criminals by definition do not abide LAWS! America needs to make Prisons a HOLY HELL to live in. No TV. Nothing but a fucking miserable place to live. Prisons in America are a Cake walk! America need to get FUCKING HARD on criminals! Fuck those left wingers who think Prisoners have Rights! If you Violate someone elses RIGHTS you deserve Prison and NO RIGHTS until you do you TIME!

Fuck I am PISSED

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Does anyone seriously think flip flop would have not done anything in the way of gun control when facing this latest cluster of shootings?

During his campaign against Kennedy, Romney supported two gun control measures -- the Brady Bill, which required background checks for gun purchases, and a ban on certain types of assault weapons. Both were strongly opposed by most gun-rights advocates.

In a July 1994 question-and-answer session with voters arranged by the Boston Herald, Romney "reaffirmed" his support for both measures. "I don't think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime, but I think it will have a positive effect," Romney said.

In a subsequent interview published on Sept. 23, 1994, Romney said, "I don't want special-interest groups making this their campaign. I don't want their money. I don't want their help. This is my race." In the interview, Romney specifically mentioned gun-rights advocates, acknowledging that his stands on the two gun-control measures would put him at odds with such groups.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," he said, referring to the National Rifle Association. "I don't line up with a lot of special interest groups."

Then, in his 2002 race for governor, Romney said during a debate against against Democrat Shannon O'Brien, "We have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them."

In 2004, in the middle of his single four-year term as governor, Romney signed a permanent ban on assault weapons -- reportedly the first such state law in the country. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense," the Globe quoted Romney as saying. "They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

I absolutely believe that with Romney being placed in the white house right now we would not have to worry about a president signing legislation like the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013. Politicians know where their money comes from. By and large obama was taking money from people who are anti-gun, and Romney took money from those who are pro-gun NRA. not to say there wasn't cross over, but by and large follow the money and that's how they would go.

I can't believe how far Massachusetts has fallen wanting fucked up laws like that. The seat of our Revolution. the commonwealth that gave us The Sons of Liberty, John Adams, Samuel Adams has turned into a bunch of pussies.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Does anyone seriously think flip flop would have not done anything in the way of gun control when facing this latest cluster of shootings?

During his campaign against Kennedy, Romney supported two gun control measures -- the Brady Bill, which required background checks for gun purchases, and a ban on certain types of assault weapons. Both were strongly opposed by most gun-rights advocates.

In a July 1994 question-and-answer session with voters arranged by the Boston Herald, Romney "reaffirmed" his support for both measures. "I don't think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime, but I think it will have a positive effect," Romney said.

In a subsequent interview published on Sept. 23, 1994, Romney said, "I don't want special-interest groups making this their campaign. I don't want their money. I don't want their help. This is my race." In the interview, Romney specifically mentioned gun-rights advocates, acknowledging that his stands on the two gun-control measures would put him at odds with such groups.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," he said, referring to the National Rifle Association. "I don't line up with a lot of special interest groups."

Then, in his 2002 race for governor, Romney said during a debate against against Democrat Shannon O'Brien, "We have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them."

In 2004, in the middle of his single four-year term as governor, Romney signed a permanent ban on assault weapons -- reportedly the first such state law in the country. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense," the Globe quoted Romney as saying. "They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

He wouldn't have one he would never go against the republican parties support when it comes down to gun rights. Every democrat right now wants to ban guns period. They are just looking for ways to take away our rights. Obama's number one mission as it seems is just to put the gov't in more control of this country. What change has he made or implemented. The only thing I hear about right now is gun control and spending trillions on global warming. What happened to unemployment and ect.

Also why did my taxes go up ALLOT when I make less then 200k. Why did my brothers medical sky rocket to 900$ a month for his wife and daughter when he makes maybe 50k a year. What the hell is getting better and what is he doing. The only change I have seen made is what is going to help give people a free ride. This entire president is against civil rights, if he really cared about humanity and the people we would all ready have seen legalized gay marriage, increase in jobs, he would not have outsourced our stimulus money and the list goes on. Now this global warming talk. Hes a tool period.

Thanks for voting to remove our gun rights by the way.

Originally Posted by jay_steel

He wouldn't have one he would never go against the republican parties support when it comes down to gun rights. Every democrat right now wants to ban guns period. They are just looking for ways to take away our rights. Obama's number one mission as it seems is just to put the gov't in more control of this country. What change has he made or implemented. The only thing I hear about right now is gun control and spending trillions on global warming. What happened to unemployment and ect.

Also why did my taxes go up ALLOT when I make less then 200k. Why did my brothers medical sky rocket to 900$ a month for his wife and daughter when he makes maybe 50k a year. What the hell is getting better and what is he doing. The only change I have seen made is what is going to help give people a free ride. This entire president is against civil rights, if he really cared about humanity and the people we would all ready have seen legalized gay marriage, increase in jobs, he would not have outsourced our stimulus money and the list goes on. Now this global warming talk. Hes a tool period.

Thanks for voting to remove our gun rights by the way.

Right now democrats are looking at their districts to see if it's possible to pass this new assault weapons ban. I want to make sure it doesn't even get to the house, which should defeat it. We need to put enough pressure on Democrat Senators that they vote no if this makes it to the floor.

With Romney in office right now this wouldn't be such a scary proposition. We would not be talking about reinstating the assault rifle ban without a sunset period, gun registration, or a magazine capacity limit.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Does anyone seriously think flip flop would have not done anything in the way of gun control when facing this latest cluster of shootings?

I wouldn't trust Romney for a second to not sign something that came across his desk. That's a hypothetical situation though. Right now it would be political suicide if a first term republican president pushed for an AWB or magazine limit. More importantly Romney didn't get elected so it's irrelevant. Him being a shitty person doesn't make Obama less shitty.

Evangelical Romney Adviser Calls for Gun Control in Aftermath of School Shooting


Mark DeMoss, known in political circles as one of Mitt Romney's top evangelical advisers and a longtime supporter is now calling for gun control on the heels of the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting that left 20 children and six adults dead.

"I'm a conservative and a Republican, and I believe in the Constitution and all of the amendments. But the reality is, there are restrictions on lots of our freedoms," DeMoss told Politico on Saturday. "We cherish the freedom of speech, but it doesn't give you the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater."
He contends that legislation to limit gun control would not necessarily infringe on constitutional liberties many believe are protected by the second amendment of the U. S. Constitution.

By the Monday after the Connecticut shooting, MSNBC talk show host Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman from Florida, called for reinstating the ban on assault-style weapons, which he had opposed. The ban expired in 2004, despite support for the ban from Republican President George W. Bush. Referring to the shooting, Scarborough said: "I knew that day that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant to the future that I want, that I demand, for my children."

Read more: Republican Party Showing Shift on Immigration, Gun Control and Tax Hike | Fox News Latino

After a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School two weeks ago, which took the lives of 20 children and six adults, some long-time critics of gun control have been showing signs that they could back off.
"Put guns on the table. Also, put video games on the table. Put mental health on the table," Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., said last week. Other prominent Republicans echoed him in calling for a sweeping review of how to prevent tragedies like the Newtown, Conn., massacre. Among those who were open to a re-evaluation of the nation's gun policies were Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.
"You've got to take all these things into consideration," Grassley said.

Read more: Republican Party Showing Shift on Immigration, Gun Control and Tax Hike | Fox News Latino


gun control doesn't seem a strictly democratic ideal. i think clouding the issue by focusing on party bs is a mistake.

ok 1% of republicans are for gun control and 100% of demos are for it... When you lose your right to protect your self you will know that your vote counted.

i also have nothing against the concept of the democratic party my problem is Obama is a socialist who wants the gov't to be in complete control. The democratic party is so far out its more socialist then any thing. Why it is important that we have a gov't that controls EVERY thing. Look at every country that Obama is mirroring and their economy its HORRIBLE... greece and spain both have riots in the streets. Then look at the crime rate in countries the the least amount of gun laws.

Originally Posted by jay_steel

ok 1% of republicans are for gun control and 100% of demos are for it... When you lose your right to protect your self you will know that your vote counted.

you really underestimate people to assume this follows a clear party line because it doesn't. my congressman didn't respond with some asinine letter assuming i'm in favor of gun control and omg, he's a democrat.

ok then fuck 99.9% of demos are for gun control but it does not matter what your congressman thinks feels or wants. Obama is a dictator period, he bi passes what people want and does what he wants. You voted for him knowing his stance against the second ammendment so there for back your president up on his choice. You voted for him hes your president...

have you written to your congressman? made yourself heard? made calls? or just bitched?

And it doesn't appear he is bypassing what the people want but responding to what the majority want if you believe what polls are showing. Supposedly 58 percent want gun control. If the numbers are right you better start screaming like your tampon is on fire.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

have you written to your congressman? made yourself heard? made calls? or just bitched?

i've written emails, called elected officials offices, and bitched on social media. the trifecta

Originally Posted by Little Wing

And it doesn't appear he is bypassing what the people want but responding to what the majority want if you believe what polls are showing. Supposedly 58 percent want gun control. If the numbers are right you better start screaming like your tampon is on fire.

This statistic was proven to be a product of skillful sample sizing and demographic manipulation. It is and was another attempt to further an agenda championed by a would be dictator. I'll try to find the source of the info about the silly, left-winged statistic if you honestly didn't already know it to be true. I've always valued your opinion, babe, but your inability to see Obama for what he is frightens me. I hope(for our country's well-being) that you are the minority.