Thread: Taking a break from IM

w8
You sure will be missed around here i enjoy reading what you write and I have learned alot from you and other members on the board. I know what you are saying and tha is part of the reason i don't get involved with that many posts. But anyway Good luck on where ever you go and what ever you do.

Hi W8 - I'm not sure what you're referring to but I do know that anything/one making you feel that way is a shame. You've helped tons of people and devoted countless hours of your time to IM.

Be well and know we'll be thinking of you (& missing you)

We'll miss ya! I'm unsure what has happened but hopefully things will get better and you'll be back sooner than ever.

Take care!

D

Breaks are always good to recharge ... like all have said, you've helped many people here, so we hope to see you back.

take care

I must've missed something

Anyway... enjoy your break... see you back soon!

Come back soon w8lifter, I'm sorry to see you go! You're one of the nicest and most knowledgeable people here; the forum needs you more than you know.

Good luck and take it easy, hopefully, you will be back before you know it.



P.S. You looked GREAT at your last competition!

Ok Leah, now break into a song.

"Don't cry for me Argentina...."


Or something as equally fitting.

Ummm w8... you are core IM!!!
This place will not be the same without you!!!
Please dont go for too long.
Let us know who's been startin shit and we'll
Take care Shorty

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I am seriously fucking bummed about this....................this sucks big time.............

I have been in communication with Leah most of the day and night.....and here is my POV

The first thing I do after waking every morning is spend 2 hours plus, going from the latest post, to the last post I saw before bed......I reply and try to help/inform....wherever needed. I do the same for PM's and the E-mail I receive from certain IMers I help that way.....I'm often late to my W/O because I stay to do as much as I can.

At work, even while helping people for 9 hours a day, I come to IM when I can to be of assistance and help where possible......

As soon as I get dinner, I eat in front of the computer, and do the same for two plus hours more......On weekends, work or not, even more time (IM however is often slow then)

I/we do this because we like to, because I/we want to......I don't get or want payment..I don't want to sell supps here...the thanks I receive, the success of those I/we help, the sharing of information, and receiving help when I need it...mean everything to me......

However....This becomes less or no fun, when humor or leivty aside, I'm faced with ridicule, malicious comments, negative inuendo, jabs, attack on character, etc.

I don't need to hear "Are you afraid to".."the Latest and greatest"...."the great trainer" .."your true colours".....

I don't even need repsect, I get plenty where it counts. But I don't need some of the Bullshit I get....I don't give BS, I don't deserve BS......I just need the space (as in "If you aren't gonna help, stay the fuck away space")....and we can get on with business.

Special note to DaMayor and who it may concern....There is a reason besides the coach/trainee, co-nutritional advice giving, close friendship, mutual respect (whether you see it or not) relationship that I have w/w8. w8 and I do not pm each other, for reasons which are nobody's business. We talk out in the open...often there is something in the conversation that helps people, (we have also been thanked for it, several times).....it should be of little concern....

This is as simple as if you want our advice, it is available, we do as much as we can....working in the field...we often feel overwhelmed, but carry on, If you don't....PLEASE keep your comments to yourself, don't make us feel unwelcome, uneeded, or of less value.

That said...I am available by PM...I will watch the board as a member/moderator...but I also "will not" be posting.......hopefully for a short time only.....I'd like to get Leah back here, and get back to fun and business.

Thank you for your time.

DP

Again, this really really sucks.................

A special note to DM? I've been here, what? A few months, and now I'm the enemy? You're a piece of work Andrew......a real piece of work. If you think I'm going to mount some sort of attack, just to justify your poor, sad, "I'm the victim" comments, then you are sadly mistaken. While my sense of humor has run out...I will not Flame you, as much as you, and people like you deserve it. As and educator, you excel.....beyond that, you need a lot of work....Doctor.

A general statement

In response to your lengthy reply, unfortunately, I can't stand here and comment on what or who you and w8 are referring to. Foremost, this is a BB forum. Most everyone is here for a reason. BB/Fitness/nutritional advice mostly and that's what the board is. On the other hand, some of us come here to bring more of the laughter and still talk about Fitness/BB but tend to talk more about life and share it with others such as me. For whatever reasons we take sides or tend to be closer to one person or not is (like you said) none of anybody's business. I have a select few ( and a very special someone) that I tell a lot more about myself and allow them into my world and vice versa. I've noticed that alot of newer people are coming along and I'm very happy. I've noticed that they are very serious in their workouts and that is very cool.

Anyway, as for w8 and DP, I don't think you should go away and allow time to heal itself. That only works when you are face to face with a person you dislike and have to see 4 times or more a week. This is the internet! You belong, I belong, we all BELONG! It's quite simple, get both your butts back here and continue on! People need you and if someone is irking you that bad... ignore them or if it's really bad (and of course, I don't know the circumstances) reprimand them if it's way out of hand!

w8- I do recall you giving Dero advice here or at MM.com when some moron was insulting him and he stated that he was leaving... do you remember what you replied with? If you can remember it, then I should see you here by tomorrow or Monday posting in public!

DP- your nuts! Get back here! You've always replied to my most important threads when I needed you and your replies were very reasonable and very informative. And your going to take that away from us?

Anyway, enough of my chitter chatter.

Hey W8 and DP, we'll of course miss you until you get back.

As to anything else (this isnt necessarily concerning DP or W8), I think theres alot of testosterone in this thread, and while thats generally commendable given what we do, why dont we all cool some heels and give each other some space. Argumentum ad Hominem arent going to help this situation, so if we have arguments to make, lets do so because we want the situation to be resolved and not because we think our testes look nicer in the store window.

I think some people take the internet a bit too seriously, myself.

Sometimes it is best to walk away (for a little while)
Sorry, u guys should just take a break and chill.

Don't worry be happy

Originally posted by katie64
I am seriously fucking bummed about this....................this sucks big time.............

I second that katie64, especially since I just finished reading Dr. Pain's post.


Another general statement...

It is truly unfortunate that two of the most knowledgeable people on the board have decided to take "a break." I visit this forum almost daily and I read as much as I can about training and nutrition because one can never learn enough. No other forum IMO comes close to this one in regards to quality information and people. It's more "hands on" and by that I mean that most people here know each other very well and are willing to share their knowledge and experience without restrictions.

Most forums have a handful of people who are committed to helping others day in and day out. I can name some of those people here at IM: w8lifter; Dr. Pain; and gopro. Now I am not saying that the rest of the members don't help, it's just that these particular people demonstrate their commitment to the forum and to the bodybuilding world every day...consistently: hour after hour, day after day, week after week, etc.

After reading Dr. Pain's post I realized that he is very serious about what he does and it shows through his dedication...not only to himself, but to all those he helps here at IM. I'm sure the same could be said for the others I have mentioned previously. It is serious to him and to the others because they are giving of themselves...giving TIME, their TIME, a big part of their lives. I would have never guessed that Dr. Pain spent so much time on-line helping people; whenever I read his posts or comments, I think to myself: "Damn this guy knows a lot of stuff." Little did I know that he spends so much time doing research, posting, working (in the field), sending PM's and e-mails. It consumes a lot of his time...daily. He says he likes it and rightfully so, he is one of those people, in my eyes, who genuinely cares for others, he post because he means it, he posts with purpose. w8lifter and gopro are the same way, they share the same qualities...those of a professional.

When someone or some people feel like bashing or discrediting a person's theories or practices, it gets old real quick and it also becomes tedious (BS if you will). Time after time these people need to hear the same shiat over and over again...and for what? Just because someone doesn't agree with what they are posting, what they are recommending, or what they know works? Everyone in the bodybuilding world is different; body type; metabolism; biological makeup, etc, the list goes on. So what works for one doesn't mean that it will work for another...that's the way it is and if that is the case then some people need to step off and let those who KNOW what they are talking about do what they need to do, quite simple.

w8lifter and Dr. Pain, if you get to read this, you are two valuable individuals and you are both NEEDED here regardless of what others might say or do. I know how destructive and malicious people can be, but don't sweat it too much, those kind of people only care about one thing...themselves. If they would open their eyes they would understand that only when you give of yourself do you receive, and that works with everything in life. Perhaps one day they will understand, but in the meantime, take heed, as long as you two continue to give quality information and continue to help people there will always be the naysayers and critics.

Hurry back! A forum is only as strong as its members...

If I took off everytime someone here got on my nerves I would never be here.

DP & W8, I don't know what to say. I just started a journal here and was looking forward to both of you looking at it and helping me out. But this is not about me. I hope you both return real soon, but if you don't I know it is for a good reason knowing what I do about the both of you.
Please continue to share your talent and knowledge with people you both are great!

Although I am not on like I was at one point I am sorry to see the two of you, w8 & DP, leave. I hope that everything works out for the both of you and we all see each of you back here real soon. Take care.

While I certainly understand the two of you wanting to take a break and needing some time off, I will certainly miss eavesdropping on you two. I am particularily grateful that you have done most of your conversations on the forums and not in PMs so that I can learn from your experience.

all the best to both of you and a BIG thanks to all the experienced people on this site who share their knowledge!

m

Listen guys, I know where you are coming from. Trust me, & w8, you should know that I've been there before, and I've taken the internet way too personally in the past. But you have to understand that with every 1 jerk that pisses you off, that there are atleast 3 others that enjoy reading your posts. I may not reply to posts that often, but I do read. And if you do not post things for me to read, then what should I be doing here. Chin up girlie. We want you around here, and we appreciate the things that you do say. You have been a role-model for me, and I wish I could look more like you. But since I can't, I'll just continue being myself. You have over-come lots, and you have progressed beautifully. You are an inspiration. Keep up the good work!

If you need time away, then do it. I totally understand. But just remember that your friends are waiting here for your return. And that goes for you too DP. Just don't forget that some of us have known you for over 2 years now, and even though we haven't met in person YET!, I still consider you a friend, and when friends are hurting, it hurts me.

You know where to reach me if you need to vent. I'm a good listener.

take care

dino
xo

I could not agree eith you more Dino, btw is good "seing you again" W8 and pain you guys are extremely knowlegle and will be sorely missed. I took like 4 months away just for a break of the puter, simply was too busy. I mostly would come on and read, and not comment. I have read your postd to different ppl and this whole site revolves around it so dont stop, this is your forum!

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I think some people take the internet a bit too seriously, myself.

i agree with TCD. my only words of advice to DP and w8 is that people are jackasses. if someone bad mouths you they're just jealous because of what you two have achieved.

For the people who are saying w8 and DP are taking the internet too personally, I have to say this.

Basically what has happened is Kuso dislikes DP and vice versa. Now Kuso and Dp have had many verbal exchanges and are both at fault in sometimes being childish, so don't think I'm taking sides.

The problem is w8 and Dp feel they are constantly being harrassed by Kuso and regardless of what you think, anything gets annoying if done repeatedly and for a long enough time.

So, basically w8lifter and Dp both help people on here for FUN in thier spare time, but if they are being bothered all the time, then why should they subject themselves to the hassle? It's not fun if you're being insulted all the time.

I actually like Kuso alot, and I have less than favourable feelings toward Dp, but I don't understand why the two sides can't just ignore each other. If there are members here I don't get along with, I just ignore them, it's no big deal. Do you ever see me reply to one of DP's posts? No.

I personally don't care either way, cause I have unlimited access to w8's knowledge and help, but I think for the sake of others who really value w8lifter's and DP's help, I think maybe both sides should grow up a little and ignore each other.

Maybe someone in authority could mediate a solution where Kuso is told to leave them alone, and w8 and Dp are told to leave Kuso alone.

*Ironmag authoritarian mode....off*

Originally posted by mmafiter
...but I don't understand why the two sides can't just ignore each other. If there are members here I don't get along with, I just ignore them, it's no big deal.

I agree with this.

Maybe someone in authority could mediate a solution where Kuso is told to leave them alone, and w8 and Dp are told to leave Kuso alone.

How do you know I have not already done this?