American Sniper Chris Kyle Shot to Death...at gun range

**SFW** · 02-03-2013, 01:30 AM

Author of "American Sniper" Chris Kyle shot to death: reports - OrlandoSentinel.com

(Reuters) - Chris Kyle, the former U.S. Navy SEAL sniper who was responsible for 160 kills during his career as U.S. Navy SEAL sniper, was shot and killed with another man at a gun range on Saturday, the co-author of Kyle's book said.

A suspect, identified as Eddie Ray Routh, was arrested, according to reports.

Kyle, who wrote "American Sniper" about his military service from 1999 to 2009, and another man were found dead at the Rough Creek Lodge's shooting range Saturday, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, quoting Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant. The second victim was not identified.

"It just comes as a shock and it's staggering to think that after all Chris has been through, that this is how he meets his end, because there are so many ways he could have been killed" in Iraq, said Scott McEwen, who wrote the book with Kyle.

Rough Creek Lodge is located in Glen Rose, Texas, which is about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth. Rough Creek Lodge referred calls to the Erath County Sheriff's Office but Bryant was not immediately available for comment.

Kyle served four combat tours of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom and elsewhere, and won two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars for bravery, according to his book.

After leaving the Navy, Kyle founded Craft International, a firm that provided combat and weapons training to military, police, corporate and civilian clients.

In a 2012 interview with Time magazine he was asked what went through his mind when he aimed at a target.

"The first time, you're not even sure you can do it," he said. "But I'm not over there looking at these people as people. I'm not wondering if he has a family. I'm just trying to keep my guys safe. Every time I kill someone, he can't plant an IED. You don't think twice about it."

Kyle is the co-author of another book coming out in May under the title "American Gun - A History of the U.S. in Ten Firearms." For the book he fired 10 weapons - such as the Spencer repeating rifle from the Civil War, the Colt .45 used in the Old West and the Thompson sub-machine gun popular with law enforcement and gangsters in the 1920s - and discussed their parts in U.S. history.

In the wake of the slayings of 20 children and six adults at a school in Newtown, Connecticut in December, Kyle was interviewed in January about rising calls for curbing gun violence in the United States. He told the website guns.com that he favored arming teachers who have been screened and trained and spoke against restrictions on gun owners.

**Zaphod** · 02-03-2013, 02:30 AM

Terrible loss. He is a great American.

**charley** · 02-03-2013, 03:13 AM

Chris Kyle .. R.I.P.

**Standard Donkey** · 02-03-2013, 06:19 AM

we lost a hero

**IronAddict** · 02-03-2013, 08:50 AM

At a weapons range, how ironic is that!

**hoyle21** · 02-03-2013, 09:36 AM

If only he had a gun and was trained to use it properly maybe he could have defended himself. What a shame.

**Standard Donkey** · 02-03-2013, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by hoyle21

If only he had a gun and was trained to use it properly maybe he could have defended himself. What a shame.

yeah well the element of surprise is most often more important than the weapon that one uses

**bio-chem** · 02-03-2013, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by hoyle21

If only he had a gun and was trained to use it properly maybe he could have defended himself. What a shame.

pull your head out your ass. this isn't the time or place for that shit.

**NoCode8511** · 02-03-2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by hoyle21

If only he had a gun and was trained to use it properly maybe he could have defended himself. What a shame.

Yeah, I'll take the infraction for this one.... Fuck you!

**LAM** · 02-03-2013, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

yeah well the element of surprise is most often more important than the weapon that one uses

and this is how roughly 75% of the murders in the US go down, with only 25% occurring by strangers.

**bio-chem** · 02-03-2013, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

and this is how roughly 75% of the murders in the US go down, with only 25% occurring by strangers.

considering many murders are isolated crimes of passion and not done by serial killers this isn't a surprising fact.

**secdrl** · 02-03-2013, 12:38 PM

You guys don't think this shit is a little suspicious. Here's former SEAL who was outspoken against the goverment and he dies in this manner at a gun range?! The level of situational awareness that SEALs are taught is unlike any other. Very weird. This brings the total to 3 suspicious murders in the last month.

**Eiserner Hahn** · 02-03-2013, 12:55 PM

Here in Texas that dude responsible is going to die. 2 counts capitol murder. As far as I read he didnt have a lawyer...my opinion is turn this dude over to seal team 3.

**maniclion** · 02-04-2013, 12:12 AM

Who was the other man killed and what was the motive?

**maniclion** · 02-04-2013, 12:21 AM

Here we go: http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1254181#bmb=1

Turns out he and his friend brought the killer to the range to help him out. He was a mentally unstable vet. Maybe the gunfire triggered a psychotic break, but thats just my pure speculation. I would think bringing a vet with Ptsd to a gun range wouldn't be top of my places to go...

**SFW** · 02-04-2013, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by secdrl

You guys don't think this shit is a little suspicious. Here's former SEAL who was outspoken against the goverment and he dies in this manner at a gun range?! The level of situational awareness that SEALs are taught is unlike any other. Very weird. This brings the total to 3 suspicious murders in the last month.

More to come, bank on that.

**SFW** · 02-04-2013, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by maniclion

what was the motive?

Draconian gun reform.

**Zaphod** · 02-04-2013, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by SFW

More to come, bank on that.

Oh, yes!

**ctr10** · 02-04-2013, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by secdrl

You guys don't think this shit is a little suspicious. Here's former SEAL who was outspoken against the goverment and he dies in this manner at a gun range?! The level of situational awareness that SEALs are taught is unlike any other. Very weird. This brings the total to 3 suspicious murders in the last month.

Sounds like the same kind of liberal or liberals who would kill a planned parenthood doctor

**bio-chem** · 02-04-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

and this is how roughly 75% of the murders in the US go down, with only 25% occurring by strangers.

So it seems to me we should outlaw relationships, and acquaintances and not guns in order to cut down on 75% of murder

**jay_steel** · 02-04-2013, 03:01 PM

shit just does not add up period. I dont care how bad of PTSD you have i have never meet any one so far gone that they would turn on a fellow vet I had severe PTSD at one point right before suicidel and the only thing that made me feel right was having a gun in my hand and my brothers at my side. I am sorry this just look like an easy patsy when it comes down to it. HUGE gun supporter on fox news and takes PTSD vets shooting. Easy way to make him die with no questions asked. When your mentally ill and fucked up, you dont feel remorse and he apperntly did by addmiting his crime to his sister. If the killer ends up dead that just proves this bull shit. Liberals cant be trusted.

**Supreme Allah** · 02-04-2013, 03:15 PM

need moar gun control...

**LAM** · 02-04-2013, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

So it seems to me we should outlaw relationships, and acquaintances and not guns in order to cut down on 75% of murder

the "more guns" to solve crime is bought & sold to those that have been well programmed by watching lots of US media and news propaganda.

the US has 9-10 firearms for every person, a lack of firearms is obviously not the problem. the US has a mental health and many areas of concentrated urban poverty. neither of which are solved by increased gun ownership or gun control. the fear campaign works very well at causing the same people to buy "more guns" as if that's some kind of rational solution for a pre-existing gun owner.

and people say listening to certain things, words doesn't modify the behavior! LMAO...US large firms wouldn't spend 10's and 10s of billions annually if it didn't...in terms of firearms over-consumption to boost profits of US large firms sold to the masses under the guise of "fear" and "increasing crime rates" of which the latter isn't even true.

The 36 Companies That Spent $1 Billion On Ads in 2011 - Business Insider

**DOMS** · 02-04-2013, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

the "more guns" to solve crime is bought & sold to those that have been well programmed by watching lots of US media and news propaganda.

The idea that less guns will make things better is the blanky needed for people that don't like facts and are afraid of the big bad world.

**Zaphod** · 02-04-2013, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

the US has 9-10 firearms for every person

No, we don't. Guns in the United States: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

**bio-chem** · 02-04-2013, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

the "more guns" to solve crime is bought & sold to those that have been well programmed by watching lots of US media and news propaganda.

the US has 9-10 firearms for every person, a lack of firearms is obviously not the problem. the US has a mental health and many areas of concentrated urban poverty. neither of which are solved by increased gun ownership or gun control. the fear campaign works very well at causing the same people to buy "more guns" as if that's some kind of rational solution for a pre-existing gun owner.

and people say listening to certain things, words doesn't modify the behavior! LMAO...US large firms wouldn't spend 10's and 10s of billions annually if it didn't...in terms of firearms over-consumption to boost profits of US large firms sold to the masses under the guise of "fear" and "increasing crime rates" of which the latter isn't even true.

The 36 Companies That Spent $1 Billion On Ads in 2011 - Business Insider

There is so much wrong with what you are posting here it's unbelievable. And this coming from a guy who I thought was pro 2A? WTF? The actual reported numbers is about 1 gun/person here in the United states. Not 9 or 10. Where did you come up with such a ridiculous number? You can't even make that shit up.

There is no "gun over-consumption" as you put it. I own quite a few firearms, and to say I have over-consumption is retarded, simplistic, and just a plain opinion by someone who is uneducated on my needs as a shooter.

It's funny you say the fear campaign is causing the "same people" to buy more guns. Have you been to a gun store recently? In each of the last two feeding frenzies the one this past month, and back when obama was first elected in 2008 I would put the number at close to half were purchased by those who were buying their first gun. It's always funny to me when the retard brady campaign people say that these purchases are being made by people who already have "enough" guns. they obviously don't have a damn clue about what is going on because they aren't at the point of sale. anyone who is actually there knows that it's a healthy mix of new buyer, and current owner stocking up.

Of course firearm companies spend money on advertising in order to sell more guns. Then again, so do car companies. wait, don't all industries use advertising to sell more product, and boost revenue/profit?

LAM, did you just discover capitalism? NO firearm company has used "increasing crime rates" to advertise to their prospective buyer to sell more product. thinking that is asinine.

**troubador** · 02-04-2013, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

the "more guns" to solve crime is bought & sold to those that have been well programmed by watching lots of US media and news propaganda.

Feel free to write your congressman telling them you oppose the newly proposed legislation that forces people to buy more guns...oh wait, we're not proposing that. Your "more guns" argument is mostly a strawman antis set up to knock down. I don't know of anyone promoting the idea that increasing the number of the guns in the U.S. will cause crime to decrease, or as the antis like to frame it "the NRA is wrong, more guns isn't the solution to everything".

The antis are great at setting up strawmen and asking us to defend our rights. They're the ones proposing infringing legislation, the burden of proof is 100% on their shoulders.

**jay_steel** · 02-05-2013, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by LAM

the "more guns" to solve crime is bought & sold to those that have been well programmed by watching lots of US media and news propaganda.

the US has 9-10 firearms for every person, a lack of firearms is obviously not the problem. the US has a mental health and many areas of concentrated urban poverty. neither of which are solved by increased gun ownership or gun control. the fear campaign works very well at causing the same people to buy "more guns" as if that's some kind of rational solution for a pre-existing gun owner.

and people say listening to certain things, words doesn't modify the behavior! LMAO...US large firms wouldn't spend 10's and 10s of billions annually if it didn't...in terms of firearms over-consumption to boost profits of US large firms sold to the masses under the guise of "fear" and "increasing crime rates" of which the latter isn't even true.

The 36 Companies That Spent $1 Billion On Ads in 2011 - Business Insider

I think its more of making excuses for people and not holding them accountable. We let people run wild doing what ever the fuck they want to do because we are the nice hugs and kisses generation. I am against the death penalty for two reasons I am a man of God and belief God is the only one that should decide life or death unless in self defense of your own life, and I find it to easy of a way out. If we chargers murders, rapists, fucking sick fucks life in prison with water boarding and a life of misery I think many more people will think twice. Look at singapores crime rate they have laws that will blow your mind, but no one will take a second thought about not using a cross walk, spitting, disrepecting, and ect. They fear being cained.

**jay_steel** · 02-05-2013, 09:40 AM

The way I see it, if you do not like or respect our constitution and want to live in a monacrchy or socialism then move to europe

**maniclion** · 02-05-2013, 12:50 PM

The only conspiracy here is that society still wants to ignore how fragile some peoples minds are. We either want to lock them away in some asylum or ignore them completely.

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