More Evidence Against Artificial Sweeteners

**OfficerFarva** · 02-19-2013, 03:10 PM

Consumption of artificially and sugar-sweetened beverages and incident type 2 diabetes in the Etude Epid?miologique aupr?s des femmes de la Mutuelle G?n?rale de l'Education Nationale?European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort1,2,3,4

Abstract

Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations, that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).

Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB, ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epid?miologique aupr?s des femmes de la Mutuelle G?n?rale de l'Education Nationale?European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort.

Design: A total of 66,118 women were followed from 1993, and 1369 incident cases of T2D were diagnosed during the follow-up. Cox regression models were used to estimate HRs and 95% CIs for T2D risk.

Results: The average consumption of sweetened beverages in consumers was 328 and 568 mL/wk for SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Compared with nonconsumers, women in the highest quartiles of SSB and ASB consumers were at increased risk of T2D with HRs (95% CIs) of 1.34 (1.05, 1.71) and 2.21 (1.56, 3.14) for women who consumed >359 and >603 mL/wk of SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Strong positive trends in T2D risk were also observed across quartiles of consumption for both types of beverage (P = 0.0088 and P < 0.0001, respectively). In sensitivity analyses, associations were partly mediated by BMI, although there was still a strong significant independent effect. No association was observed for 100% fruit juice consumption.

Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.

Received September 13, 2012.
Accepted December 5, 2012.

Consumption of artificially and sugar-sweetened beverages and incident type 2 diabetes in the Etude Epid?miologique aupr?s des femmes de la Mutuelle G?n?rale de l'Education Nationale

I still like to have a coke zero every now and than though.

**maniclion** · 02-19-2013, 08:52 PM

Diabetes mellitus or sweet pee was originally tested for by tasting a patients urine. The japanese were smart though and just set it out and if ants were attracted to it the presence of sugars could be diagnosed.

**LAM** · 02-19-2013, 09:59 PM

imagine that, "artificial sweeteners" are not good for the human body. now who would have thought that? LMAO!

**niviceaas** · 02-20-2013, 07:22 AM

Lam, it was your boy Donnie Rumsfeld that got the FDA to ignore evidence of brain cancer from these products, all to get his baby " Equal" aproved

**jagbender** · 02-20-2013, 08:10 AM

I use Stevia is any sweetners

**IronAddict** · 02-20-2013, 08:14 AM

Just cut out the middleman already and swallow a couple of tablespoons of sugar or a few packets of aspartame a day.

**IronAddict** · 02-20-2013, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by niviceaas

Lam, it was your boy Donnie Rumsfeld that got the FDA to ignore evidence of brain cancer from these products, all to get his baby " Equal" aproved

I don't believe Lam is a real big fan of Rumsfelds. I don't believe that guys mother even likes him

**LAM** · 02-20-2013, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by niviceaas

Lam, it was your boy Donnie Rumsfeld that got the FDA to ignore evidence of brain cancer from these products, all to get his baby " Equal" aproved

true but it was good old red ronnie reagan that hand picked the FDA commissioner in '81 which green lighted aspartame despite all the negative data on it.

**niviceaas** · 02-20-2013, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

I don't believe Lam is a real big fan of Rumsfelds. I don't believe that guys mother even likes him

Yeah I was kind of kidding with LAM, but that is funny about Rummys mom, Imagine what Cheneys mom thought of her little evil overlord

**niviceaas** · 02-20-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by LAM

true but it was good old red ronnie reagan that hand picked the FDA commissioner in '81 which green lighted aspartame despite all the negative data on it.

LAM you are always teaching me something !! And Here I thought it was just Rummy, but ah well good old Ronnie doin good for humanity again

**troubador** · 02-20-2013, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by OfficerFarva

We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.

That's the important part no one is mentioning. This study suggest we should look into if ASB causes T2D, not conclude that it does.

**OfficerFarva** · 02-20-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by troubador

That's the important part no one is mentioning. This study suggest we should look into if ASB causes T2D, not conclude that it does.

Hence the title name 'More Evidence' lol.

**LAM** · 02-20-2013, 09:27 AM

here is some info from the CDC on the demographics of those that drink a lot of diet sodas. if you look at them the people are middle-aged and most likely overweight. considering the percentage of the US population that performs quality exercise (enough to change the body composition) is relatively low this would be another major contributing factor towards the development of T2DB.

Consumption of Diet Drinks in the United States, 2009‒2010
Products - Data Briefs - Number 109 - October 2012

**LAM** · 02-20-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by niviceaas

but ah well good old Ronnie doin good for humanity again

that almost made me spit up my protein shake all over my monitor when I read it!

**maniclion** · 02-20-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Just cut out the middleman already and swallow a couple of tablespoons of sugar or a few packets of aspartame a day.

Couple, theres around 6 Tbsp in a can of coke.

**SFW** · 02-20-2013, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Couple, theres around 6 Tbsp in a can of coke.

And its Genetically modified corn that they use to create the corn syrup. The corn they use has specially designed dna that has been engineered with the help of pharmaceutical companies. So diet or regular...either way, they want to kill us all. Or at least get us very sick, so that we need 5-6 different medications every day.

**LAM** · 02-20-2013, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by SFW

And its Genetically modified corn that they use to create the corn syrup. The corn they use has specially designed dna that has been engineered with the help of pharmaceutical companies. So diet or regular...either way, they want to kill us all. Or at least get us very sick, so that we need 5-6 different medications every day.

it's called exploitation capitalism....first they create the "problem" then they come "fix" it. either way you slice it it amounts to wealth transfers from the bottom to the top.

they did it with wages and "fixed" that with more credit.
they did it with the CIA and the "war on terror" with the enemies we didn't have but they created
they did it with healthcare with the crap they allow in our foods, etc.

it's the same old song and dance, again...and again...and again

**IronAddict** · 02-20-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

Couple, theres around 6 Tbsp in a can of coke.

K, thanks.

**maniclion** · 02-20-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

K, thanks.

If you drink a 6 pack of soda a day like some people I know thats 1/2 a pound or so of sugar per day if I remember correctly... I did a report in college on peoples diets.

**IronAddict** · 02-21-2013, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by maniclion

If you drink a 6 pack of soda a day like some people I know thats 1/2 a pound or so of sugar per day if I remember correctly... I did a report in college on peoples diets.

Manic, this guy with the plethora of vices is proud to say, I haven't had a can of toothrot in ages. I couldn't even begin to imagine drinking a 6 wack a day. I'll drink some gatorade or similar type sports drinks now and again, and those have a good amnt of sugar in them too.

**hypo_glycemic** · 02-21-2013, 09:06 AM

In regards to the OP, didn't scientist say the amount of human consumption to remotely get cancer from artificial sweeteners, that you'd have to ingest a wheelbarrow worth in a day? We tested on lab rats in college and nothing in correlation, but now they are claiming small amounts over a period of time has tested that rats were obtaining cancer?

**LAM** · 02-21-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by maniclion

If you drink a 6 pack of soda a day like some people I know thats 1/2 a pound or so of sugar per day if I remember correctly... I did a report in college on peoples diets.

it's something like that, I crunched the numbers and did the math myself years ago when I noticed my roommate downing (2) litre bottles of Pepsi when he would come home from work, on top of the soda and ice tea he would drink at work. he also liked to dip and smoke cigarettes. LOL! over the course of the year he was consuming something like 250lbs of sugar just from the daily soda intake.

funny thing this is the guy has gaucher's and wonder's why he feels like shit all the time.

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