Thread: United States Note - this is probably why Kennedy was killed

say what! you mean those secret societies and clandestine meetings were the world's billionaires get today and form global economic policy aren't doing that for "our" good?

thats funny because the Kennedy's are part of that society, multimillionaires.

This is an out of context snippet from a speech he gave to the American Newspaper Publishers Association and has nothing to do with the illuminati, aliens or colonel sanders.

Oh, no wait, of course this is about a NWO organization but only those with superb critical thinking skills will be able to decipher the message.

Originally Posted by Swiper

thats funny because the Kennedy's are part of that society, multimillionaires.

then explain why our government assassinated him?
if you say they did not then you're just another American sheep.

The Cubans and Soviets probably conspired to kill him due to the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Oswald was the perfect puppet.

Jack Ruby, a guy with terminal cancer finished the plot by killing Oswald before he could talk.
Ruby then died.
Perfect scenario as to how all of the pieces fit into the most likely Kennedy conspiracy theory.

Americans are so ignorant, no wonder the wealthy are taking over the US and all of you just blame liberals and think it will all get better when you get a conservative in office.

there was a documentary I watched that scientifically proved it would have been impossible for those shots to have some from the window in the building.

Originally Posted by Prince

then explain why our government assassinated him?
if you say they did not then you're just another American sheep.

I haven't studied - research much about his assassination. so I can't comment about who did it and why. I'm just saying he's a "1%er". one of their own.

Originally Posted by Prince

there was a documentary I watched that scientifically proved it would have been impossible for those shots to have some from the window in the building.

Oswald was a puppet and the perfect fall guy to be manipulated if someone wanted to set it up and give inferences based on association that Oswald killed Kennedy.
A guy that has known past political afflictions with the communist party, who visited the Soviet Union and whose wife was a Russian works in a building that is known in advance to be on the motorcade route.
Oswald is an known expert with a rifle.

If he did not assassinate Kennedy, he would have been the perfect fall guy in an assassination plot to misdirect evidence as to who actually did it.

The Cubans and Soviet governments hated Kennedy and considered him a primary threat to Cuban and Soviet influence and political power in the Western Hemisphere.

Originally Posted by Bowden

The Cubans and Soviets probably conspired to kill him due to the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Oswald was the perfect puppet.

Jack Ruby, a guy with terminal cancer finished the plot by killing Oswald before he could talk.
Ruby then died.
Perfect scenario as to how all of the pieces fit into the most likely Kennedy conspiracy theory.

Do you really believe this? Did you not listen to the speech? when have you heard a president speak like this about his own backyard? Step away for the tv son, its not allowing to think for yourself.

Originally Posted by Swiper

I haven't studied - research much about his assassination. so I can't comment about who did it and why. I'm just saying he's a "1%er". one of their own.

So, what is your point exactly?

People need to remember that Kennedy was assassinated following the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Both events directly affected the projection of Cuban and Soviet military power and political influence in the Western Hemisphere.
Oswalds past as a communist sympathizer, someone that had visited the Soviet Union, that his wife was a Russian and that he was an expert shot with a rifle was known by the FBI
Oswald had been interviewed by the FBI and the FBI maintained a file on Oswald.

He worked in a building that was in proximity to the 'grassy knoll'.
He would have been considered by the FBI as the primary suspect in the Kennedy assassination.
He was the perfect fall guy if he did not actually kill Kennedy.

Originally Posted by Bowden

The Cubans and Soviets probably conspired to kill him due to the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Oswald was the perfect puppet.

Jack Ruby, a guy with terminal cancer finished the plot by killing Oswald before he could talk.
Ruby then died.
Perfect scenario as to how all of the pieces fit into the most likely Kennedy conspiracy theory.

even if part of that is true they did so with the blessing of the US gov and secret service. far too many know working security protocols were broken that day in Dallas and that shit doesn't happen by accident. it defeats the entire purpose of developing them in the first place.

Originally Posted by HialeahChico305

Do you really believe this? Did you not listen to the speech? when have you heard a president speak like this about his own backyard? Step away for the tv son, its not allowing to think for yourself.

I lived through this period and I know history.
I do not need old videos to tell me what occurred back then.

Kennedy ordered the Bay of Pigs invasion which was considered by the Cubans as an act of war against Cuba and we almost went into a nuclear war with the Soviets over their short range nuke missiles located in Cuba that were thought to be targeted against American Cities and military bases on the U.S. east coast.
The result was that Castro considered Kennedy a primary threat against the Castro government and his political power.

The Soviets backed down withdrew their missiles and lost military projection of power against the United States and political influence in the Western Hemisphere.
Kennedy forced Khrushchev to back down.

They both had plenty of political motivation to want to assassinate Kennedy.

"that Oswald's apparent connection to Castro and Khrushchev had to be prevented "from kicking us into a war that can kill forty million Americans in an hour."

Conspiracy - Oswald, The Cia, And Mexico City | Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE | PBS

		FORWARD It was 1993, the 30th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, when FRONTLINE first aired its documentary, "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?" In that program FRONTLINE concluded, "What now seems certain is that the CIA is still covering up its contact with Lee Harvey Oswald." Now, ten years later, much material has been made available to the American public which sheds light on what the CIA had been hiding for forty years. This new information is the result of the U.S. Congress passing the 1993 "JFK Records Act," which mandated the full release of all government files relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and created a civilian Assassination Records Review Board to oversee this process. By the time the Board's work was completed in the late 1990s, six million pages of documents had been made available to the public in the National Archives. Arguably, the most startling information so far brought to light by the release of these intelligence records is the CIA cover-up relating to Oswald's visit to Mexico City. Oswald was in Mexico City in late September and early October of 1963. During his one-week stay, he tried to obtain visas from the Cuban consulate and Soviet embassy. But intelligence documents released in 1999 establish that, after Oswald failed to get the visas, CIA intercepts showed that someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin - Valery Kostikov - whom the CIA and FBI had been following for over a year.1
	The news of this impersonation and the link to Kostikov, learned within hours of President Kennedy's assassination, electrified top government and intelligence officials and dominated their discussion in the immediate weeks following the assassination. It also became during the next 40 years one of the CIA's most closely guarded secrets on the Oswald case.

WHY THE COVER-UP?

As the documents show, the intelligence cover-up on Oswald and Mexico City was real. The question is, why?
The impersonated phone call linking Oswald to Kostikov and the visit to the Cuban consulate certainly raised the possibility that Oswald not only had not acted alone, but was in the employ of Castro and the Kremlin. And, if this were the case, then the CIA and FBI, by failing to act for six weeks upon the Oswald-Kostikov link, might possibly have doomed President Kennedy.
Thus, it was a situation suggesting diverse motives for a cover-up - from protecting sensitive sources to hiding incompetence and even preventing a nuclear war, a nightmare scenario that gripped the White House within hours of the president's murder.
At 10:00 am on Saturday, November 23, President Johnson asked FBI Director Hoover if there was anything new concerning Oswald's visit in Mexico City (it's unclear when Johnson first had learned of the Mexico City visit). It was at this point - just 22 hours after the assassination-- that Hoover told Johnson about the Kostikov link and that it was not Oswald's voice on the tape; he had been impersonated. ²³

Over at the Justice Department, with Attorney General Robert Kennedy in mourning that weekend, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach handled the case. He met with Hoover on Sunday, shortly after Jack Ruby had killed Oswald. Katzenbach then prepared a memo for Johnson's top aide, Bill Moyers, stating that the public had to be "satisfied" that Oswald had acted alone and that the "evidence" would have convicted him at a trial. Katzenbach warned that speculation about Oswald's motive had to be "cut off" and that the thought that the assassination was a communist conspiracy or a "right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the communists" had to be rebutted.²⁴ After the Sunday meeting Hoover observed, "The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin."²⁵

To head off any congressional investigations, President Johnson decided to create a blue-ribbon commission that would be headed by Chief Justice Earl Warren and composed of august leaders like Senator Richard Russell. When Russell said he didn't like Warren and refused the assignment, Johnson told him that he had no choice, that it already had been announced, that he could work with anyone for the good of America, and that Oswald's apparent connection to Castro and Khrushchev had to be prevented "from kicking us into a war that can kill forty million Americans in an hour." ²⁶

Does anyone get any inferences from the above, that there was a connection between Oswald, Castro and the Kremlin?
That the U.S. government knows that Oswald was serving as an agent of the Cubans, the Soviets?
That this was all covered up by the U.S. government in-order to prevent a nuclear war with the Soviet Union.

Originally Posted by Bowden

Kennedy forced Khrushchev to back down.

They both had plenty of political motivation to want to assassinate Kennedy.

your aware of the long ties between the Federal Reserve system and the Bolshevik Revolution?

the Rockefeller's and Russian oil?

the Rockefellers/Chase bank as the central bank in Russia for some years?

you know that in 1964 John D. Rockefeller went to the USSR and coincidentally Khrushchev was relieved of command?

Originally Posted by LAM

your aware of the long ties between the Federal Reserve system and the Bolshevik Revolution?

the Rockefeller's and Russian oil?

the Rockefellers/Chase bank as the central bank in Russia for some years?

you know that in 1964 John D. Rockefeller went to the USSR and coincidentally Khrushchev was relieved of command?

Khrushchev was probably "relieved of command" due to a political power move by Leonid Brezhnev and Kosygin, who replaced him.
Khrushchev was considered to be destabilizing relations between the Soviet Union and China.

LOL.
Khrushchev was considered as too 'liberal' by many of the communist party elites.

Originally Posted by KelJu

So, what is your point exactly?

that the Kennedy's are multimillionaires, just like the people who some claim killed him.

Originally Posted by Swiper

that the Kennedy's are multimillionaires, just like the people who some claim killed him.

You already said that. Now, please continue your thought process and explain what your point is. Or, is that your point? Kennedy was killed by rich people?

Originally Posted by KelJu

You already said that. Now, please continue your thought process and explain what your point is.

Lol

Originally Posted by KelJu

You already said that. Now, please continue your thought process and explain what your point is. Or, is that your point? Kennedy was killed by rich people?

yeah that's my point. if its true then yeah he was killed by the 1%ers which he is a part of.

the Kennedy's are part of the crowd stated in princes post "There are a group of very powerful, rich and influential people that want to decide how
everyone lives"

Originally Posted by Prince

There are a group of very powerful, rich and influential people that want to decide how
everyone lives. These are the people that will decide and take action on how
to bring the population down to a sustainable level and scores of other
decisions that affect the lives of the average person. Some call them The Illuminati,
The New World Order, etc. Kennedy was killed shortly after a speech against these secret
societies and I always thought he was killed because he wouldn't play a long so to speak.
Here is a short part of that speech. Kennedy was the man to stand against this.

It's a damn shame Kennedy died regardless of the assassin or the reason.

Originally Posted by troubador

This is an out of context snippet from a speech he gave to the American Newspaper Publishers Association (snip)

Here's - I believe - the full speech.

Originally Posted by Swiper

yeah that's my point. if its true then yeah he was killed by the 1%ers which he is a part of.

the Kennedy's are part of the crowd stated in princes post "There are a group of very powerful, rich and influential people that want to decide how
everyone lives"

So it's ok then?

Originally Posted by Swiper

yeah that's my point. if its true then yeah he was killed by the 1%ers which he is a part of.

When did being a part of a group ever guarantee immunity from harm from the group?

"Al-Shabaab's decision to execute three of its members for allegedly spying for foreign governments reflects a crisis of confidence within the ranks of the militant group, political analysts and observers say. Al-Shabaab said the three men -- Ishaq Omar Hassan, 22, Yasin Osman Ahmed, 23, and Mukhtar Ibrahim Sheikh, 33 -- were spying for the US Central Intelligence Agency and the British spy agency MI6."

"An honor killing, or honour killing^[1] is the homicide of a member of a family or social group by other members, due to the belief of the perpetrators that the victim has brought dishonor upon the family or community."

"The White House and its critics faced off on Tuesday over the legality of drone strikes to kill U.S. citizens abroad, in a likely preview of arguments that will be raised during this week's confirmation hearing for President Barack Obama'schoice to head the CIA.

The disclosure of an unclassified Justice Department memo laying out the legal framework for the U.S. government's ability to attack its own citizens drew criticism from civil liberties groups."

"The Syrian regime has used children as human shields and tortured youths whose parents are suspected dissidents, according to a U.N. report.The report on children and armed conflict details accounts of juveniles allegedly abused by pro-government forces and came as a top U.N. official said the conflict in Syria has spiraled into a civil war."

Who killed Tupac?

Originally Posted by Prince

So it's ok then?

no id never advocate killing someone without due process, but what if the Democrat party killed him for lowering income taxes for everyone? if a democrat president tried that today, he'd be killed for sure.

Originally Posted by Curt James

When did being a part of a group ever guarantee immunity from harm from the group?

"Al-Shabaab's decision to execute three of its members for allegedly spying for foreign governments reflects a crisis of confidence within the ranks of the militant group, political analysts and observers say. Al-Shabaab said the three men -- Ishaq Omar Hassan, 22, Yasin Osman Ahmed, 23, and Mukhtar Ibrahim Sheikh, 33 -- were spying for the US Central Intelligence Agency and the British spy agency MI6."

"An honor killing, or honour killing^[1] is the homicide of a member of a family or social group by other members, due to the belief of the perpetrators that the victim has brought dishonor upon the family or community."

"The White House and its critics faced off on Tuesday over the legality of drone strikes to kill U.S. citizens abroad, in a likely preview of arguments that will be raised during this week's confirmation hearing for President Barack Obama'schoice to head the CIA.

The disclosure of an unclassified Justice Department memo laying out the legal framework for the U.S. government's ability to attack its own citizens drew criticism from civil liberties groups."

"The Syrian regime has used children as human shields and tortured youths whose parents are suspected dissidents, according to a U.N. report.The report on children and armed conflict details accounts of juveniles allegedly abused by pro-government forces and came as a top U.N. official said the conflict in Syria has spiraled into a civil war."

never. And i never said nor did I implied that.