Thread: Help settle an argument?

you won't find such a list of values. it depends on how you train and for what purpose. some guys train strictly for hypertrophy and others for a combination of hypertrophy and increased athletic peformance through strength training and the use of explosive movements. you will find a ton of "body builders" who weigh over 200+ and can't bench 2x their bodyweight but can curl a lot of weight. for biomechanical reaons many peope are not efficient at the bb bench press so they don't do it...

I think there are too many factors involved because of individual training reponses and background, etc. If someone does only bench press but doesn't curl, then they're going to have a good bench and crappy curl because they simply aren't subjecting the muscle to any stress and it won't get stronger. There really are no specific numbers to try to attain.

For example, personally my bench sucks because I've torn both my rotator cuffs and my shoulder stabilizers are very weak as a result.

4 times your curl is pretty ridiculous, though. Most of us can curl 100 lbs., but you'd be hard pressed to find many that can bench 400.

Hrm ...

I'm not sure that there's a valid argument from either standpoint.

But it seems like it holds true for me ...