Right wing pill popper...........

gr81 · 10-12-2003, 03:44 AM

I am just droppin this thread to gloat over that right wing, hipocritical, double standard having, lying ass Rush Limbaugh who has admitted to having a pain pill problem after the National Inquirer released the story a few weeks ago. This bastard has prtrayed the holier than thou attitude for decades and I remember certain instances, like when Jerry Garcia and Kurt Cobain died and he questioned their contributions, saying they were just worthless junkies! He often commented on "the drugged out hippies" that wer poisining this nation, and it turns out that bastard pops OC and Hydrocodone by the thousands. HA ha ha you bitch. Maybe now people will realize that you aren't as high as you have lead on. The thing is probably no one would care if he was just honest with people about what type of person he was. F'n Hipocrit! I'm out

firestorm · 10-12-2003, 04:09 AM

Yeaaaa, take that Rush!!!!

TheGreatSatan · 10-13-2003, 01:43 AM

Shut up!!

Rush is addicted to prescription meds. They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on. He was in pain and got hooked on what made him feel better. Besides, did you see how much thinner he is? A bodybuilding forum should at least respect that fact.

P.S. Fuck the liberals.

BUSTINOUT · 10-13-2003, 02:10 AM

Don't forget to mention the Kennedy's. Biggest slimebags of all time. They don't admit to anything, they just pay to have it burried.

TheGreatSatan · 10-13-2003, 02:16 AM

i.e. Ted Kennedy. Didn't he kill some chick?

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreatSatan
Shut up!!

Rush is addicted to prescription meds. They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on. He was in pain and got hooked on what made him feel better. Besides, did you see how much thinner he is? A bodybuilding forum should at least respect that fact.

P.S. Fuck the liberals.

Hey man, I am not against him poppin pain pills, that would be hipocritical of me. Personally I see why he likes the OC, I like them alot too, it is the fact that he lied about it and made himself out to be this great high and mighty person. Have you heard some of teh comments he has made about "the hippe junkies of this country". he has bad mouthed drug users since day one, casting a very judgemental view upon them, only it turns out that he is one of them! I will be the last person to judge someone using drugs, just be honest sbout who you are and dont' bash others like he has, that makes him a bitch ass mo fo in my book!

LazyByNature · 10-13-2003, 05:32 AM

The question is whether or not he got the pills illegally. If his doctor wrote the perscription for every pill he took, then there is no problem. There aren't many cartells in South America smuggling OC into the country and selling it on the street. Of course if he mugged/robbed/killed people to get the money for those pills then there's a problem.

Personally, I think that drugs should be legal, sold in government stores, and taxed out the a-hole. Probably still be cheaper than on the black market, we could get some tax money off of them, and most of the crime associated with drugs would disappear. Now I wouldn't (and don't) take drugs. Hell, I don't even drink alcohol anymore, but the coffee is hard to give up.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 07:18 AM

He never lied about it that I know of. He has even checked himself into rehab twice before. That sounds like admittance to me. And he did get hooked on pain killers due to having spinal surgery. Quite different than recreational drugs.

**Mudge** · 10-13-2003, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreatSatan
They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on.

I agree that there is a difference, he wasn't a recreational user that got hooked. Sometimes though those that point the finger are guilty of the same crime they critisize, we all know that, "he who smelt it dealt it" and so on.

Flex · 10-13-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreatSatan
Shut up!!

Rush is addicted to prescription meds. They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on. He was in pain and got hooked on what made him feel better. Besides, did you see how much thinner he is? A bodybuilding forum should at least respect that fact.

P.S. Fuck the liberals.

Actually, They are not different than other drugs these "junkies" are on. Yes, he originally took them for pain relief of spinal injuries, cuz they made him "feel better". But he didnt need to take them by the boatload like he did. that's bullshit if you believe that. You're only justifying his excuse, but saying they're "far different from other crap junkies get hooked on". Actually, they're not that different. He took, he abused! Just because they're prescription meds and legal by U.S. standards then they're ok to get addicted to?

So is a perfectly successful man with a good job, a good wife, and kids who becomes an alcoholic, is he a junky? Alcohol is legal, Shit, you can buy alcohol anywhere! What about cigarettes? People CHOOSE to smoke those, even though they're killing themselves, and those are LEGAL to. No, its not ok to become addicted, just like to the prescr. meds.

Great satan you're a black pot calling the kettle black, or as me and buddies like to say "you're a midget callin' a dwarf short"

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by LazyByNature
The question is whether or not he got the pills illegally. If his doctor wrote the perscription for every pill he took, then there is no problem. There aren't many cartells in South America smuggling OC into the country and selling it on the street.

Good post Flex! LBN, you must be joking right, you obviously don't have your ear to the streets man. One of my best friends clocks that shit by the boatload. OC is EVERYWHERE and teh shit sells like hotcakes. I could get you a box of the liquid OC by the box and pills by the thousands just like that, easy as fuck! There is a huge demand on teh black market for pain pills, especially the OC. OC is everybit as much a drug as anything else, if you are an addict, you are an addict. I know guys that have to take160mgs a day atleast, does that not make them an addict b/c it isn't coke or weed? fuck no. There is NO difference from pain pils than any other drug, believe that. If you have an addictive personality trhen your addiction can manifest through anything, pain pills just as much as anything else. I have been on the frontlines and I have seen some bad shit happen with pain pills. It is stupid to think that it is less of a problem b/c they are prescription or something like that.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 01:40 PM

No one is saying that it is not as much of a drug as another. But the way they became dependant on it to me is the difference. On rec drugs, it is a choice you make to take them. On pain killers, it is out of necessity.

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 01:52 PM

not necessarily, I know plenty of guys that just started taking OC because it is an opied(sp) and you get high off the shit. besides does tha make it better how the person became addicted? the fatc of teh matter is it is an addiction and it needs to be dealed with. It makes no difference how they became addicted. An addict's drug of chioce can be anything, if a person is an addict then it could've been the pain pills he was prescribed but if not those, then it would've been something else along the line. How is just semantics.

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by dg806
No one is saying that it is not as much of a drug as another. But the way they became dependant on it to me is the difference. On rec drugs, it is a choice you make to take them. On pain killers, it is out of necessity.

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Originally posted by TheGreatSatan
They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by gr81
not necessarily, I know plenty of guys that just started taking OC because it is an opied(sp) and you get high off the shit. besides does tha make it better how the person became addicted? the fatc of teh matter is it is an addiction and it needs to be dealed with. It makes no difference how they became addicted. An addict's drug of chioce can be anything, if a person is an addict then it could've been the pain pills he was prescribed but if not those, then it would've been something else along the line. How is just semantics.

If they take them for no reason, that is different. And it is true they are very addictive. I know a lady that is hooked on pain killers. She sleeps all day because she can not get up. She thinks it is from the pain in her back when really it is the drugs. Sad. But saying if it was not pain killers it would be something else, is very inaccurate.

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 02:05 PM

not it isn't innaccurate at all. I have done extensive research over the years on addiction, I know what I am talkin about. Pain pills are not physically addictive the way that cigarettes are. the reason peole become an addict is b/c it is genetic, whether you act out that addiction depends on some things but you either are or you are not an addict. Do you think that gambling is really addictive, no people who are addicts focus their addiction on that, or whatever else they focus on. Often times when an addict quits, lets say drinkin b/c he was having a problem, and he seeked no treatment for it, his addiction would move to something else, even though alcohol was his original addiction I guarantee it. trust me, that is the way addiction works.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 02:08 PM

You're full of shit! I could be an alcoholic if I wanted to be. It's that I CHOOSE not to be! That genetic BS is an excuse for people!!

gr81 · 10-13-2003, 02:17 PM

alright man, I just made it up to impress you. addiction is really not genetic, its a choice. you are an idiot if that is wehat you thikn. how about some facts to back up your claims. I have been in recovery before, I have studied the subject intensily for years, I have spoke with proffessionals, I have listened to addiction madicine specialists, I think I know what I am talkin about. I am not even going to argue b/c it is pointless to argue with someone who knows nothing on the subject. that is the stupidest thing you could say, genetics is an excuse. I tell you what man, why don't you go and do some research before you say things ike that, in fact if you can find some valid info to back yourself up and disprove my info, I will mail you 100 dollars just like that, I dare you to prove me wrong, I dare you DG. You are wrong. you go ahead and say that shit to any addiction specialist and they will laugh in your face.

Flex · 10-13-2003, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by dg806
You're full of shit! I could be an alcoholic if I wanted to be. It's that I CHOOSE not to be! That genetic BS is an excuse for people!!

gr81 is def right in this case dg. why do you think people say to be "wary" of drinking if there is alcohol problems in your family? My grandfather was an alcholic, not to the extreme, but you know what i mean. my father drinks alot, i think he's borderline. in h.s. and my first few years of college, i partied like an animal. now, i choose to not drink that much because i dont want to be like that.

I see where you're coming from though. I, just like you, believe in the beginning it is someones choice to start drinking or smoking cigarettes or whatever your vice is. But once it has a hold on you, man you just can't stop. its not that you don't want to, of course an alcholic doesnt want to be addicted to alcohol, or a crackhead to crack, but its not thier choice. My buddy's good friend got addicted to coke, at first it was recreational. then it got worse, he lost his job, his family and ended up killing himself.

If shit were that easy, there wouldnt be people addicted to painkililers, or crack, or heroin, one day they'd just say, shit, i dont wanna do this anymore. but its not like that man.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 02:44 PM

Oh I guess it's the same as saying gay people are gay because of their genetics. Give me a damn brake! You are only, what 22 years old? You don't know crap yet. You haven't even began to live or learn. You only know what other people have told you!

And Flex "alcholic, not to the extreme" what is that?? Either you are or your not!!

Hell I had already grown up when you two were born. I have seen much more than you two. I see it everday as a police officer. I work in a drug swat unit. I know what drugs do and I know the addiction properties of drugs.

Flex · 10-13-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by dg806
Oh I guess it's the same as saying gay people are gay because of their genetics. Give me a damn brake! You are only, what 22 years old? You don't know crap yet. You haven't even began to live or learn. You only know what other people have told you!

And Flex "alcholic, not to the extreme" what is that?? Either you are or your not!!

Hell I had already grown up when you two were born. I have seen much more than you two. I see it everday as a police officer. I work in a drug swat unit. I know what drugs do and I know the addiction properties of drugs.

Oh, cuz you're a cop, you MUST know everything. And to say because you're older you know more, au contraire mon frere. Thats the most b.s. statement i've ever heard.

Like everything, there are different degrees dg. By "not to the extreme", i meant he didnt wake up every morning and crack a beer or slug vodka. but he did abuse it. Cuz someone doesnt spend every waking second drinking they can't be an alcoholic?

you are honestly going to say that addiction is not physical just as much as mental? why do recovering heroin addicts who go cold turkey have a week or so of absolute "hell"? is that because its all mental, like you suggest?

Bottom line man, if it were mental, like you say, there would be no addiction problems in the world. Addictive gamblers would stop BEFORE they lost their life savings. Alcoholics would stop BEFORE they lost their family and job. Heroin addicts would stop BEFORE they overdosed and died.

I don't get it either man, but bottom line you gotta realize they do not choose to be addicted.

Tboy · 10-13-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by dg806
You are only, what 22 years old? You don't know crap yet.

Now wait a dang minute here! When I was 22 I knew everything. But now it seems that I have forgotten most of it

That being said:

I do believe what Rush did was wrong. No way around it. But I do see him as being different than the common drug user.

**dg806** · 10-13-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Tboy
Now wait a dang minute here! When I was 22 I knew everything.

So did I. Now I realize I didn't know jack!

Flex · 10-13-2003, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Tboy
Now wait a dang minute here! When I was 22 I knew everything. But now it seems that I have forgotten most of it

That being said:

I do believe what Rush did was wrong. No way around it. But I do see him as being different than the common drug user.

what gr was saying though man was that he used to be so critical of all the "druggies" back in teh day, now he realizes he aint so perfect after all.

i think its a question of how people take everything for granted and just judge based on b.s.

in other words, Rush judged people cuz he didnt know what they went through. he thought they were just fuckup druggies you know?

you think Magic Johnson gave a fuck about HIV before he got it? Or Michael Jordan worried about gambling before he started?

People are quick to criticize, adn only realize what people go through once it happens to them.....

10-12-2003, 03:44 AM	#1
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	Right wing pill popper........... I am just droppin this thread to gloat over that right wing, hipocritical, double standard having, lying ass Rush Limbaugh who has admitted to having a pain pill problem after the National Inquirer released the story a few weeks ago. This bastard has prtrayed the holier than thou attitude for decades and I remember certain instances, like when Jerry Garcia and Kurt Cobain died and he questioned their contributions, saying they were just worthless junkies! He often commented on "the drugged out hippies" that wer poisining this nation, and it turns out that bastard pops OC and Hydrocodone by the thousands. HA ha ha you bitch. Maybe now people will realize that you aren't as high as you have lead on. The thing is probably no one would care if he was just honest with people about what type of person he was. F'n Hipocrit! I'm out
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10-13-2003, 07:18 AM	#8
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,251	He never lied about it that I know of. He has even checked himself into rehab twice before. That sounds like admittance to me. And he did get hooked on pain killers due to having spinal surgery. Quite different than recreational drugs.
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10-13-2003, 01:40 PM	#12
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,251	No one is saying that it is not as much of a drug as another. But the way they became dependant on it to me is the difference. On rec drugs, it is a choice you make to take them. On pain killers, it is out of necessity.
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10-13-2003, 01:52 PM	#13
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	not necessarily, I know plenty of guys that just started taking OC because it is an opied(sp) and you get high off the shit. besides does tha make it better how the person became addicted? the fatc of teh matter is it is an addiction and it needs to be dealed with. It makes no difference how they became addicted. An addict's drug of chioce can be anything, if a person is an addict then it could've been the pain pills he was prescribed but if not those, then it would've been something else along the line. How is just semantics.
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10-13-2003, 02:05 PM	#16
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	not it isn't innaccurate at all. I have done extensive research over the years on addiction, I know what I am talkin about. Pain pills are not physically addictive the way that cigarettes are. the reason peole become an addict is b/c it is genetic, whether you act out that addiction depends on some things but you either are or you are not an addict. Do you think that gambling is really addictive, no people who are addicts focus their addiction on that, or whatever else they focus on. Often times when an addict quits, lets say drinkin b/c he was having a problem, and he seeked no treatment for it, his addiction would move to something else, even though alcohol was his original addiction I guarantee it. trust me, that is the way addiction works.
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10-12-2003, 04:09 AM	#2
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Yeaaaa, take that Rush!!!!

10-13-2003, 01:43 AM	#3
TheGreatSatan Satan Loves You Too Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Min0's Bed! Posts: 11,782 Photos: 16	Shut up!! Rush is addicted to prescription meds. They're far different from weed or coke or the other crap those junkies are on. He was in pain and got hooked on what made him feel better. Besides, did you see how much thinner he is? A bodybuilding forum should at least respect that fact. P.S. Fuck the liberals.

10-13-2003, 02:10 AM	#4
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,415	Don't forget to mention the Kennedy's. Biggest slimebags of all time. They don't admit to anything, they just pay to have it burried.

10-13-2003, 02:16 AM	#5
TheGreatSatan Satan Loves You Too Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Min0's Bed! Posts: 11,782 Photos: 16	i.e. Ted Kennedy. Didn't he kill some chick?

10-13-2003, 05:32 AM	#7
LazyByNature genetically predetermined Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 192 Photos: 3	The question is whether or not he got the pills illegally. If his doctor wrote the perscription for every pill he took, then there is no problem. There aren't many cartells in South America smuggling OC into the country and selling it on the street. Of course if he mugged/robbed/killed people to get the money for those pills then there's a problem. Personally, I think that drugs should be legal, sold in government stores, and taxed out the a-hole. Probably still be cheaper than on the black market, we could get some tax money off of them, and most of the crime associated with drugs would disappear. Now I wouldn't (and don't) take drugs. Hell, I don't even drink alcohol anymore, but the coffee is hard to give up.

10-13-2003, 02:08 PM	#17
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,251	You're full of shit! I could be an alcoholic if I wanted to be. It's that I CHOOSE not to be! That genetic BS is an excuse for people!!
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10-13-2003, 02:17 PM	#18
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	alright man, I just made it up to impress you. addiction is really not genetic, its a choice. you are an idiot if that is wehat you thikn. how about some facts to back up your claims. I have been in recovery before, I have studied the subject intensily for years, I have spoke with proffessionals, I have listened to addiction madicine specialists, I think I know what I am talkin about. I am not even going to argue b/c it is pointless to argue with someone who knows nothing on the subject. that is the stupidest thing you could say, genetics is an excuse. I tell you what man, why don't you go and do some research before you say things ike that, in fact if you can find some valid info to back yourself up and disprove my info, I will mail you 100 dollars just like that, I dare you to prove me wrong, I dare you DG. You are wrong. you go ahead and say that shit to any addiction specialist and they will laugh in your face.
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10-13-2003, 02:44 PM	#20
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,251	Oh I guess it's the same as saying gay people are gay because of their genetics. Give me a damn brake! You are only, what 22 years old? You don't know crap yet. You haven't even began to live or learn. You only know what other people have told you! And Flex "alcholic, not to the extreme" what is that?? Either you are or your not!! Hell I had already grown up when you two were born. I have seen much more than you two. I see it everday as a police officer. I work in a drug swat unit. I know what drugs do and I know the addiction properties of drugs.
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