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Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 08:50 AM

I've been gettin ripped constantly, bout my vocal style.I was and am in a area where everyone kinda talks like me so communication is never a problem,and I don't have crazy problems gettin info and breaking it down from others, no matter how they come with it. But lately it seems that when I post a question or a reponse a lot of peeps change the focus from what we may be kickin to the way I'm spittin what I've got say, to the point of insults and dissing. It's not like I say anything rude or try to dis anyone, It just jumps off all of a sudden, and then the on line "lynch mob" joins in for the public stoneing. Then I look at some post and notice that there are others here who speak in a simular fashion, some even quote things that I've said earlier and it's cool. I don't get it?Some peeps use the forums to live their tough guy fantasies out and call a person outta there names when they don't know that person or have reasons to do so.I'm straight up old school ,so I came up when you showed love (respect) to those that showed you love. Basically "don't start no stuff, won't be no stuff, Feel me?I was always raised up being taught that you do your dirt face to face, not computer to computer as that would seem to me to be one of the highest form of cowardism, to dis someone you know you'll never run into. I guess some would call it playing it safe. I call it safe playa hateing.How sad.Why is it such a big damn deal,if I talk different than ,you or you from me?And why cut into someone for being themselves. I once heard Jimi Hendrix say " I'm the one thats got to die when it's time for me to die .so let me live my life the way I want to"Just wondering am I the only one who notices this stuff?

**Mudge** · 12-13-2003, 11:23 AM

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please everybody all of the time.

Thats how it is man, someone somewhere is always going to, how do you say, "get all up in your shit."

Someone is going to be a critic, even in a group of fans.

Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 12:48 PM

As always ,you give me food for thought Mudge.And you are quite correct.However I just have to be honest and say, I'm from another time and way of thinkin I suppose as some of the folks that make posts here. So to be honest I had wondered if perhaps it was an attack on my speakin manner , as it reflects most likely a image of "street smarts" or assumed "thug life" or even something as petty as being jet (black),.but there are always 3 sides to everything,myside, yourside,, and then the REALSIDE.Most peeps never get past the the first unfortunatly.But as you and I seem to agree on, the world is much bigger than any of our backyards and it takes all kinds to even make a world. I'm into and enjoying studying history a bit, and some of the mentality that is reflected in the comments that are made is kinda scary,even to "a thugged out , ill spittin", jet set guy" ( translation ,"a thugged out ",Meaning person aware of life on the streets from legal to illegal , the good and the bad,and able to deal with that enviroment and survive. "ill spittin" one who speaks the lango of the streets,but is not restricted to that ,sometimes hardcore but always true."jet set" of the Black race, as in "jet black" and "set" a group of people, friends,family,organisations and yes even gangs.) as it brings to mind somes 50's and 60's kinda behavior. The reason I use the term "on-line lynch mobs" is because of these reasons, it seems as soon as 1 persons that aims and fires stupidity into a reply, it spreads out like a virus, and before you know it every coward now has enough support( from strangers mind you) to as we say where I'm from "let his nuts hang" That to me is different from progressive thinkin,where I do my thing, you do your thing,and if we're lucky God will sprinkle us both with mad love. Just a thought! I'm pretty sure that posting what this will allow me to become a 155lb ringside heavybag to alot of Y'all, just keep the shots above the belt ha ha. PEACE

kuso · 12-13-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Mikhal
I've been gettin ripped constantly, bout my vocal style.I was and am in a area where everyone kinda talks like me so communication is never a problem,and I don't have crazy problems gettin info and breaking it down from others, no matter how they come with it. But lately it seems that when I post a question or a reponse a lot of peeps change the focus from what we may be kickin to the way I'm spittin what I've got say, to the point of insults and dissing. It's not like I say anything rude or try to dis anyone, It just jumps off all of a sudden, and then the on line "lynch mob" joins in for the public stoneing. Then I look at some post and notice that there are others here who speak in a simular fashion, some even quote things that I've said earlier and it's cool. I don't get it?Some peeps use the forums to live their tough guy fantasies out and call a person outta there names when they don't know that person or have reasons to do so.I'm straight up old school ,so I came up when you showed love (respect) to those that showed you love. Basically "don't start no stuff, won't be no stuff, Feel me?I was always raised up being taught that you do your dirt face to face, not computer to computer as that would seem to me to be one of the highest form of cowardism, to dis someone you know you'll never run into. I guess some would call it playing it safe. I call it safe playa hateing.How sad.Why is it such a big damn deal,if I talk different than ,you or you from me?And why cut into someone for being themselves. I once heard Jimi Hendrix say " I'm the one thats got to die when it's time for me to die .so let me live my life the way I want to"Just wondering am I the only one who notices this stuff?

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Originally posted by Mikhal
As always ,you give me food for thought Mudge.And you are quite correct.However I just have to be honest and say, I'm from another time and way of thinkin I suppose as some of the folks that make posts here. So to be honest I had wondered if perhaps it was an attack on my speakin manner , as it reflects most likely a image of "street smarts" or assumed "thug life" or even something as petty as being jet (black),.but there are always 3 sides to everything,myside, yourside,, and then the REALSIDE.Most peeps never get past the the first unfortunatly.But as you and I seem to agree on, the world is much bigger than any of our backyards and it takes all kinds to even make a world. I'm into and enjoying studying history a bit, and some of the mentality that is reflected in the comments that are made is kinda scary,even to "a thugged out , ill spittin", jet set guy" ( translation ,"a thugged out ",Meaning person aware of life on the streets from legal to illegal , the good and the bad,and able to deal with that enviroment and survive. "ill spittin" one who speaks the lango of the streets,but is not restricted to that ,sometimes hardcore but always true."jet set" of the Black race, as in "jet black" and "set" a group of people, friends,family,organisations and yes even gangs.) as it brings to mind somes 50's and 60's kinda behavior. The reason I use the term "on-line lynch mobs" is because of these reasons, it seems as soon as 1 persons that aims and fires stupidity into a reply, it spreads out like a virus, and before you know it every coward now has enough support( from strangers mind you) to as we say where I'm from "let his nuts hang" That to me is different from progressive thinkin,where I do my thing, you do your thing,and if we're lucky God will sprinkle us both with mad love. Just a thought! I'm pretty sure that posting what this will allow me to become a 155lb ringside heavybag to alot of Y'all, just keep the shots above the belt ha ha. PEACE

By the looks of these posts perhaps you communication problem is you inability to form paragraphs

Triple Threat · 12-13-2003, 07:44 PM

Could someone please translate and in a few sentences or so, explain what Mikhal is saying here? English preferred. Thanks.

MeatheadSam · 12-13-2003, 08:10 PM

To be honest I beleive it is his version of the golden rule.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

He says what he thinks about an issue with no sugar coatings.
He will tell you what he thinks about you or your opinion in "honesty" and not in an attempt to insult you.

I respect a man who tells the truth straight up even if it is hurtful.

There are some cats here who jump on and sling around obscenities and insults with no tact and these people are those he cannot understand. But I would not want to understand them.

I beleive, like me, he sees the sillyness of outright attacking somone on the computer. Not only is it stupid, it is pointless.

I agree with him on many points. I hope my interpretation of his post is correct.

Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 09:14 PM

Kuso , I ask you with all respect. Is that all you seen when you read that? on the real man. I'm so sorry that this time we focus on my forming paragraphs. Still got love for you tho homey! Do your thing. PEACE

Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 09:20 PM

I'm very happy to say that Sam, has expressed my thoughts and done so with a strong mind and a steel heart. Sam thanks for translatin ,now at least maybe it'll be easier for the next batch of insults. ha ha! PEACE

gr81 · 12-13-2003, 09:28 PM

naw I don't know what you are talkin about man, that happens... here?! no way

yeah right!
There are some straight up hatin mo fos on this board, not to name names or anything. I have been in so many god damn fights since I joined this board. Some of them have been my fault, I admit. I am sometimes quick to snap when someone trys to get on here and spank me like that, it is just a natural reflex action for me. Sometimes it has been b/c I came across too extreme for some people, for teh most part, too many instances to count have been where people read into what I am sayin or interpret something the wrong way and try to take it out on me, or they just straight up hate for no reason, which is the just bitch made. Now for those people that are mature, we have ended up working it out b/c its all good like that and alot of times become friends, but some people are just asshole wanna be thuggs on their comp (again no names) and there is no reasoning with them. Bottom line is I can feel 100% what the fuck you are sayin dawg b/c I have been getting it since day 1. Grow up all you pussies that try and initiate beef on the computer, it is pointless, no one really knows each other on here so save that superman shit for real life. All the real true people on here know whats up b/c they are respectful and mature and can resolves difference without attacking others, and much love to you all, you know who you are.

And to those who can't do that, go practice socializing with real people so you can learn how, this isn't third grade is it? Step it up haterz..

Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 09:41 PM

GR, you and me rollin together, between all the people that hate your stylo and mine ? Are you nuts? we'll never make it outta here alive now ha ha ha ! what up doe dawg? Always a treat, when playas meet. PEACE! PS watch your paragraphs homey you'll get shot for shizzy! ha ha ha

kbm8795 · 12-13-2003, 10:30 PM

It's all good, Mikhal - you do things with respect for others and that's what matters. And you sound like you'd help someone out if they'd ask you a question, so that's all okay with me.

You can trust that gr81...that dude scraps so much around here that we got his keyboard covered with Bandaids.

Mikhal · 12-13-2003, 11:07 PM

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It's all good, Mikhal - you do things with respect for others and that's what matters. And you sound like you'd help someone out if they'd ask you a question, so that's all okay with me.

Sho ya rite, If I'm down with you ,I'm down like 4 flat tires homey! I gotta keep it real.Can't be true to the game (life) if I can't be true to myself first. If I can ever answer a question bout anything I know (not think I know), I'll bleed for you homey. Feel that ,Please! Bandaids on his keyboard, ha ha thats priceless !!! PEACE

gr81 · 12-14-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by kbm8795
You can trust that gr81...that dude scraps so much around here that we got his keyboard covered with Bandaids.

oh it true man, its true! I don't like fighting with people though, well at least nto all the time, ha. good lookin out thou Kbm. I have to say that I enjoy readin your responses that you have made in certain threads, keep it up playa

**Dale Mabry** · 12-14-2003, 12:22 AM

word.

maniclion · 12-14-2003, 02:12 AM

You say you only heard Jimi's "If 6 was 9" once, listen to it some more, theres a powerful message in there. It's all about people doing there own thing in harmony, that part where the 3 of them go off on the their own tangents yet keep it together signifies that.

Mikhal · 12-14-2003, 02:39 AM

No actually I've most likly heard it more like a Million times ha ha.I grew up listening and at one point living to hear his music.As a matter of fact the whole Axis Bold as Love" Album" ( told you I was old school) ha ha,is still inspirational for me. Jimi would feel what I'm talking bout. There's also a part in the same song that reminds us " that I got my own world to live through, and I ain't gonna copy you" Very strong statement. I'm just trying " to stand up next to a mountian,and chop it down with the edge of my hand" Feel me PEACE

firestorm · 12-14-2003, 04:49 AM

I'm not getting into a battle here with anyone but I can't stand when people talk nasty to others for voicing an opinion or belief. People must understand that these internet boards, chat rooms etc reach out to the "world" not just the USA, England or what have you. You have different walks of life here and everywhere. Every class of person are members here, (lower class, middle class, upper class = financial incomes) City people, back woods people and burbians such as myself so I can't stand when people look down on anyone because they sound or look differently unless they are Iraqi. (thats a joke). So using your terminology, I feel you and I don't like seeing people treated in such a manner. I'd like you to post some links here so I can see some examples of what your saying.

firestorm · 12-14-2003, 04:55 AM

I'll tell ya though, being 41 and from the outskirts of the township, I find your verbage rather amusing as GR8 knows. I've never heard that dialect before GR8 came along earlier in the year. For the longest time I thought he was black.lol He has been teaching me some of the phrases you guys use. Now as you can tell, I'm open minded and willing to learn the translations but many here are not and don't know what your talking about with the new version of eubonics.

kbm8795 · 12-14-2003, 09:34 AM

New things always take time to understand better, firestorm....heck...I can't tell ya how many times I'll be standing in front of a classroom with a heated discussion going on (and I get students from the inner city, a bunch of foreign countries, and the smallest farm towns) and they start spouting off slang terms that I've never heard before. I've had to stop the discussion and remind them that I'm an old person, so they've gotta tell me what those words mean. . .

I know I've only been around here a couple of months and have already posted enough nasty messages to turn off plenty of people, but I don't believe in using degrading insults as a substitute for meaningful discussion. Oh, I get P.O.ed plenty...and I get an attitude if I think someone gets picked on merely because they exist.

You get my respect, firestorm - ya know I don't always agree, but I've never seen you post remarks that you didn't own as yours and about yourself - and you don't need or expect everyone else to sing the same notes in the choir or be annihilated.

Ya know, when I first started teaching journalism, it was pretty easy - I had been doing the work myself for years. But when they tossed me speech classes to teach, it was a whole new ballgame.
You get a couple dozen students in a classroom, forced to take a course they hate and even worse, having to stand in front of each other and give speeches. I had to set down rules right away - like everyone's voice is gonna be heard and respected and that I expected each speech to be about something meaningful about themselves.

The first class I taught, there was this big redneck guy who came up to me after class acting really uncomfortable. He told me he was afraid to do a speech about his favorite hobby. He lived in a small town and grew up hunting with his dad and grandfather - and, at 19, was already an expert at tracking and hunting lots of different game - he even hunted alligator. I'm standing there thinking that I've never killed anything but a few invading bugs. . .hell, I even swerved half off a road once so I wouldn't run over a damned turtle trying to cross the highway.

So I asked him why he was afraid to give a speech about something he was obviously expert at, and he told me that every time he met someone at school or mentioned it, he got the PC lecture about killing Bambi . . .so I told him that was exactly why he needed to give that speech - it was his turn to let people know what it really meant to him without being shut down.

Well, he was real nervous when his turn came - sweaty palms, weaker voice starting off - but when he got going, he talked about how his hunting trips had drawn him closer to his dad and grandpa...how good hunters have rules about managing and selecting kills and how it wasn't a sport about going out to see how many things you could kill. He talked about the feelings he had standing in a tree for hours, getting to know the woods waiting for the deer. He even brought a coyote pelt he had killed and skinned himself and passed it around for people to feel.

So you get this class with lots of kids from the middle of Chicago who had never even seen a coyote before, touching something for the first time and hearing how one of their classmates had developed the skills to put food on his own table. . .it was one of the best speeches that semester.

At the end of the semester, he wrote on the class evaluation that it was the first time he had ever experienced being accepted for that part of himself....and that having the class applaud and show interest in his skills not only made him feel comfortable with them but opened him up to listening to their speeches. But even better, half a dozen of his classmates wrote on their evaluations that his presentation was one of the most meaningful learning memories they'll be taking from the classroom.

That's what discussion is supposed to be all about - if you let someone have their own voice without being intimidated, everyone ends up learning.

ponyboy · 12-14-2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mikhal
GR, you and me rollin together, between all the people that hate your stylo and mine ? Are you nuts? we'll never make it outta here alive now ha ha ha ! what up doe dawg? Always a treat, when playas meet. PEACE! PS watch your paragraphs homey you'll get shot for shizzy! ha ha ha

I watched Malibu's Most Wanted last night. It reminds me of this thread.

Peace out. Fo' shizzle.

Mikhal · 12-14-2003, 10:30 AM

Firestrom, kbm, ponyboy,You guys are all world class dudes,with world class attitudes.You guys have gotta make your place of business and hoods you you crib up in better places to be. I would love for my child to meet yours and enjoy and gain from your wisdom. Firestorm, I really respect your honesty, and your true desire to ask and not to dis.I'm sure that you guys got front row seats in heaven. Here is an interesting note. I've been bracing and waiting for all the people that attend the "on-line lynchings to come and have a big ol"fuck you party" on me. It's been a whole day ,and when they are given a chance in a thred to speak what they feel about me,or the way I spit my game, they just have not done so.? I think that everyone that has posted a reply has been very much on the positive tip, and I think that what I mentioned about the "coward support system" only works when as I mentioned stupidity is left unchecked, and groomed by others in the same mindset. "Fanning the flame" for lack of a better term.It strikes me that these people would rather "hijack" someones thred about something totally different then twist and manipulate it into some gutter behavior. Too much truth will not allow ,that negitive vibe to exist.Also noticed that I've been understood by most, and those that did'nt were very honest and respectful in asking about what they did'nt. No witty insults,no gettin called retarded(the funny part about that is they call me retarded because THEY don't understand duh?)no being called outta my name,(yet ha ha)no invitations to kiss someones ass. Hey wait a minute, are we on the same forum? ha ha ha. For some reason I've got a feelin that we may all be older than alot of people that post here, or at the very least we act older,and have most likely seen more of life and possibly the world. Seems like we all had some "home training" and are all confident enough in ourselves, to not feel the need to slam others , to give on-line impression sessions. You guys make sure to make kids, the world needs more peeps like Y'all PEACE

Mikhal · 12-14-2003, 10:41 AM

A peaceful thred, who'd a thought, all the haters must be sleeping late. We got a gang of slang here and peeps speakin their minds their way and theres no dissing, maybe everyone should talk this way.I got mad Love for all Y'all, thats real.

12-13-2003, 08:50 AM	#1
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	free speaking and free thinking BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I've been gettin ripped constantly, bout my vocal style.I was and am in a area where everyone kinda talks like me so communication is never a problem,and I don't have crazy problems gettin info and breaking it down from others, no matter how they come with it. But lately it seems that when I post a question or a reponse a lot of peeps change the focus from what we may be kickin to the way I'm spittin what I've got say, to the point of insults and dissing. It's not like I say anything rude or try to dis anyone, It just jumps off all of a sudden, and then the on line "lynch mob" joins in for the public stoneing. Then I look at some post and notice that there are others here who speak in a simular fashion, some even quote things that I've said earlier and it's cool. I don't get it?Some peeps use the forums to live their tough guy fantasies out and call a person outta there names when they don't know that person or have reasons to do so.I'm straight up old school ,so I came up when you showed love (respect) to those that showed you love. Basically "don't start no stuff, won't be no stuff, Feel me?I was always raised up being taught that you do your dirt face to face, not computer to computer as that would seem to me to be one of the highest form of cowardism, to dis someone you know you'll never run into. I guess some would call it playing it safe. I call it safe playa hateing.How sad.Why is it such a big damn deal,if I talk different than ,you or you from me?And why cut into someone for being themselves. I once heard Jimi Hendrix say " I'm the one thats got to die when it's time for me to die .so let me live my life the way I want to"Just wondering am I the only one who notices this stuff?
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2003, 11:23 AM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,944 Photos: 1	You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please everybody all of the time. Thats how it is man, someone somewhere is always going to, how do you say, "get all up in your shit." Someone is going to be a critic, even in a group of fans.
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12-13-2003, 12:48 PM	#3
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	As always ,you give me food for thought Mudge.And you are quite correct.However I just have to be honest and say, I'm from another time and way of thinkin I suppose as some of the folks that make posts here. So to be honest I had wondered if perhaps it was an attack on my speakin manner , as it reflects most likely a image of "street smarts" or assumed "thug life" or even something as petty as being jet (black),.but there are always 3 sides to everything,myside, yourside,, and then the REALSIDE.Most peeps never get past the the first unfortunatly.But as you and I seem to agree on, the world is much bigger than any of our backyards and it takes all kinds to even make a world. I'm into and enjoying studying history a bit, and some of the mentality that is reflected in the comments that are made is kinda scary,even to "a thugged out , ill spittin", jet set guy" ( translation ,"a thugged out ",Meaning person aware of life on the streets from legal to illegal , the good and the bad,and able to deal with that enviroment and survive. "ill spittin" one who speaks the lango of the streets,but is not restricted to that ,sometimes hardcore but always true."jet set" of the Black race, as in "jet black" and "set" a group of people, friends,family,organisations and yes even gangs.) as it brings to mind somes 50's and 60's kinda behavior. The reason I use the term "on-line lynch mobs" is because of these reasons, it seems as soon as 1 persons that aims and fires stupidity into a reply, it spreads out like a virus, and before you know it every coward now has enough support( from strangers mind you) to as we say where I'm from "let his nuts hang" That to me is different from progressive thinkin,where I do my thing, you do your thing,and if we're lucky God will sprinkle us both with mad love. Just a thought! I'm pretty sure that posting what this will allow me to become a 155lb ringside heavybag to alot of Y'all, just keep the shots above the belt ha ha. PEACE Last edited by Mikhal : 12-13-2003 at 01:02 PM.
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2003, 08:10 PM	#6
MeatheadSam Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 169	To be honest I beleive it is his version of the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. He says what he thinks about an issue with no sugar coatings. He will tell you what he thinks about you or your opinion in "honesty" and not in an attempt to insult you. I respect a man who tells the truth straight up even if it is hurtful. There are some cats here who jump on and sling around obscenities and insults with no tact and these people are those he cannot understand. But I would not want to understand them. I beleive, like me, he sees the sillyness of outright attacking somone on the computer. Not only is it stupid, it is pointless. I agree with him on many points. I hope my interpretation of his post is correct.
	Just a regular guy.

12-13-2003, 09:14 PM	#7
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	Kuso , I ask you with all respect. Is that all you seen when you read that? on the real man. I'm so sorry that this time we focus on my forming paragraphs. Still got love for you tho homey! Do your thing. PEACE
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2003, 07:44 PM	#5
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,297 Photos: 4	Could someone please translate and in a few sentences or so, explain what Mikhal is saying here? English preferred. Thanks.

12-13-2003, 09:20 PM	#8
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	I'm very happy to say that Sam, has expressed my thoughts and done so with a strong mind and a steel heart. Sam thanks for translatin ,now at least maybe it'll be easier for the next batch of insults. ha ha! PEACE
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2003, 09:28 PM	#9
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,379 Photos: 10	naw I don't know what you are talkin about man, that happens... here?! no way yeah right! There are some straight up hatin mo fos on this board, not to name names or anything. I have been in so many god damn fights since I joined this board. Some of them have been my fault, I admit. I am sometimes quick to snap when someone trys to get on here and spank me like that, it is just a natural reflex action for me. Sometimes it has been b/c I came across too extreme for some people, for teh most part, too many instances to count have been where people read into what I am sayin or interpret something the wrong way and try to take it out on me, or they just straight up hate for no reason, which is the just bitch made. Now for those people that are mature, we have ended up working it out b/c its all good like that and alot of times become friends, but some people are just asshole wanna be thuggs on their comp (again no names) and there is no reasoning with them. Bottom line is I can feel 100% what the fuck you are sayin dawg b/c I have been getting it since day 1. Grow up all you pussies that try and initiate beef on the computer, it is pointless, no one really knows each other on here so save that superman shit for real life. All the real true people on here know whats up b/c they are respectful and mature and can resolves difference without attacking others, and much love to you all, you know who you are. And to those who can't do that, go practice socializing with real people so you can learn how, this isn't third grade is it? Step it up haterz..
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12-13-2003, 09:41 PM	#10
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	GR, you and me rollin together, between all the people that hate your stylo and mine ? Are you nuts? we'll never make it outta here alive now ha ha ha ! what up doe dawg? Always a treat, when playas meet. PEACE! PS watch your paragraphs homey you'll get shot for shizzy! ha ha ha
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2003, 10:30 PM	#11
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	It's all good, Mikhal - you do things with respect for others and that's what matters. And you sound like you'd help someone out if they'd ask you a question, so that's all okay with me. You can trust that gr81...that dude scraps so much around here that we got his keyboard covered with Bandaids.

12-14-2003, 12:22 AM	#14
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12-14-2003, 02:12 AM	#15
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 17,267 Photos: 10	You say you only heard Jimi's "If 6 was 9" once, listen to it some more, theres a powerful message in there. It's all about people doing there own thing in harmony, that part where the 3 of them go off on the their own tangents yet keep it together signifies that.

12-14-2003, 02:39 AM	#16
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	No actually I've most likly heard it more like a Million times ha ha.I grew up listening and at one point living to hear his music.As a matter of fact the whole Axis Bold as Love" Album" ( told you I was old school) ha ha,is still inspirational for me. Jimi would feel what I'm talking bout. There's also a part in the same song that reminds us " that I got my own world to live through, and I ain't gonna copy you" Very strong statement. I'm just trying " to stand up next to a mountian,and chop it down with the edge of my hand" Feel me PEACE
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-14-2003, 04:49 AM	#17
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I'm not getting into a battle here with anyone but I can't stand when people talk nasty to others for voicing an opinion or belief. People must understand that these internet boards, chat rooms etc reach out to the "world" not just the USA, England or what have you. You have different walks of life here and everywhere. Every class of person are members here, (lower class, middle class, upper class = financial incomes) City people, back woods people and burbians such as myself so I can't stand when people look down on anyone because they sound or look differently unless they are Iraqi. (thats a joke). So using your terminology, I feel you and I don't like seeing people treated in such a manner. I'd like you to post some links here so I can see some examples of what your saying.

12-14-2003, 04:55 AM	#18
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I'll tell ya though, being 41 and from the outskirts of the township, I find your verbage rather amusing as GR8 knows. I've never heard that dialect before GR8 came along earlier in the year. For the longest time I thought he was black.lol He has been teaching me some of the phrases you guys use. Now as you can tell, I'm open minded and willing to learn the translations but many here are not and don't know what your talking about with the new version of eubonics.

12-14-2003, 09:34 AM	#19
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	New things always take time to understand better, firestorm....heck...I can't tell ya how many times I'll be standing in front of a classroom with a heated discussion going on (and I get students from the inner city, a bunch of foreign countries, and the smallest farm towns) and they start spouting off slang terms that I've never heard before. I've had to stop the discussion and remind them that I'm an old person, so they've gotta tell me what those words mean. . . I know I've only been around here a couple of months and have already posted enough nasty messages to turn off plenty of people, but I don't believe in using degrading insults as a substitute for meaningful discussion. Oh, I get P.O.ed plenty...and I get an attitude if I think someone gets picked on merely because they exist. You get my respect, firestorm - ya know I don't always agree, but I've never seen you post remarks that you didn't own as yours and about yourself - and you don't need or expect everyone else to sing the same notes in the choir or be annihilated. Ya know, when I first started teaching journalism, it was pretty easy - I had been doing the work myself for years. But when they tossed me speech classes to teach, it was a whole new ballgame. You get a couple dozen students in a classroom, forced to take a course they hate and even worse, having to stand in front of each other and give speeches. I had to set down rules right away - like everyone's voice is gonna be heard and respected and that I expected each speech to be about something meaningful about themselves. The first class I taught, there was this big redneck guy who came up to me after class acting really uncomfortable. He told me he was afraid to do a speech about his favorite hobby. He lived in a small town and grew up hunting with his dad and grandfather - and, at 19, was already an expert at tracking and hunting lots of different game - he even hunted alligator. I'm standing there thinking that I've never killed anything but a few invading bugs. . .hell, I even swerved half off a road once so I wouldn't run over a damned turtle trying to cross the highway. So I asked him why he was afraid to give a speech about something he was obviously expert at, and he told me that every time he met someone at school or mentioned it, he got the PC lecture about killing Bambi . . .so I told him that was exactly why he needed to give that speech - it was his turn to let people know what it really meant to him without being shut down. Well, he was real nervous when his turn came - sweaty palms, weaker voice starting off - but when he got going, he talked about how his hunting trips had drawn him closer to his dad and grandpa...how good hunters have rules about managing and selecting kills and how it wasn't a sport about going out to see how many things you could kill. He talked about the feelings he had standing in a tree for hours, getting to know the woods waiting for the deer. He even brought a coyote pelt he had killed and skinned himself and passed it around for people to feel. So you get this class with lots of kids from the middle of Chicago who had never even seen a coyote before, touching something for the first time and hearing how one of their classmates had developed the skills to put food on his own table. . .it was one of the best speeches that semester. At the end of the semester, he wrote on the class evaluation that it was the first time he had ever experienced being accepted for that part of himself....and that having the class applaud and show interest in his skills not only made him feel comfortable with them but opened him up to listening to their speeches. But even better, half a dozen of his classmates wrote on their evaluations that his presentation was one of the most meaningful learning memories they'll be taking from the classroom. That's what discussion is supposed to be all about - if you let someone have their own voice without being intimidated, everyone ends up learning.

12-14-2003, 10:30 AM	#21
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	Firestrom, kbm, ponyboy,You guys are all world class dudes,with world class attitudes.You guys have gotta make your place of business and hoods you you crib up in better places to be. I would love for my child to meet yours and enjoy and gain from your wisdom. Firestorm, I really respect your honesty, and your true desire to ask and not to dis.I'm sure that you guys got front row seats in heaven. Here is an interesting note. I've been bracing and waiting for all the people that attend the "on-line lynchings to come and have a big ol"fuck you party" on me. It's been a whole day ,and when they are given a chance in a thred to speak what they feel about me,or the way I spit my game, they just have not done so.? I think that everyone that has posted a reply has been very much on the positive tip, and I think that what I mentioned about the "coward support system" only works when as I mentioned stupidity is left unchecked, and groomed by others in the same mindset. "Fanning the flame" for lack of a better term.It strikes me that these people would rather "hijack" someones thred about something totally different then twist and manipulate it into some gutter behavior. Too much truth will not allow ,that negitive vibe to exist.Also noticed that I've been understood by most, and those that did'nt were very honest and respectful in asking about what they did'nt. No witty insults,no gettin called retarded(the funny part about that is they call me retarded because THEY don't understand duh?)no being called outta my name,(yet ha ha)no invitations to kiss someones ass. Hey wait a minute, are we on the same forum? ha ha ha. For some reason I've got a feelin that we may all be older than alot of people that post here, or at the very least we act older,and have most likely seen more of life and possibly the world. Seems like we all had some "home training" and are all confident enough in ourselves, to not feel the need to slam others , to give on-line impression sessions. You guys make sure to make kids, the world needs more peeps like Y'all PEACE Last edited by Mikhal : 12-14-2003 at 10:47 AM.
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-14-2003, 10:41 AM	#22
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	A peaceful thred, who'd a thought, all the haters must be sleeping late. We got a gang of slang here and peeps speakin their minds their way and theres no dissing, maybe everyone should talk this way.I got mad Love for all Y'all, thats real.
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sound