Thread: Appache Firepower ( FYI violent video, may offend )

Originally posted by oaktownboy
btw i don't think it's fair to call an innocent people who have been enslaved for years "scum."

Did you not read my post above...

Originally posted by PreMier
As for the title of this thread, I tried to change it, but was unable to. If a mod wants to change it to something more appropriate, its their choice.

right back at ya

yeah, I can't believe the nerve of those Iraqi soldiers with freaking WEAPONS... like... it's not like we're invading their country...

wait... we are...

Hmmm...

Maybe they wouldn't point those things at our soliders if they were in their own country where they belong...

I can't wait till this country gets a real foreign policy instead of sacrificing our heros for some cheap thug...

Wow..that footage was brutal! Poor, bastards.
not going to get into the argument of if it was right / wrong for us to go to Iraq this time. Not sure.
At first, sure, thought it was a great idea..now, not sure. I do believe saddem needed togo. He's gone. Hopefully Iraq can be reborn into a stable society and help bring some peace to that part of the world.
I think we need to get the troops abck to looking for osama again and get his ass.

I changed the title for you.......let me know if you don`t like it.

wow, that was some pretty intense stuff!!

Originally posted by kuso
I changed the title for you.......let me know if you don`t like it.

I liked the old title better

PreMier, Thank you for your support!!! We need more people like you out there.

Now some thing I want to say to everyone else. Most people in the military do not look forward to taking another human beings life. We understand the moral and societal consequences that come with such a decision. But we also know that it is sometimes a necessary evil. I have been to the desert and am sure I will be back. I have met the people and learned some of there culture and yes, most of them are great people....just like me and you. But you have to understand their mind set and their history. I tell you this; people (like the ones in the video) would not hesitate to take your life or your wife of child's. They do not care if they live or die. There only goal is to destroy the infidels, in other words us. And they don't care who or where they attack.

As to the question, do they realize we can see them at night? Well apparently not. There are several after action reports from Iraqi Freedom, where it was obvious that they did not understand Night Vision Devices. If you want more info about that contact me and I will let you know.

Originally posted by supertech
First of all its not murder,Its war.
Also I agree with you,Someone being killed should not be found amusing!

i totally agree with you . It's war, so u gotta do what u gotta do. I am not taking anything away from our troops and their morale. What I do have a problem with it TGS and others who find killing human being is amusing, entertaining and a fun game.

the gunner is quite cold-blooded. How do they train to be like that

Originally posted by moon
the gunner is quite cold-blooded. How do they train to be like that

Edited to be a bit more polite:
This was an ignorant post. They are soldiers...at war...fighting...they would have been killed otherwise.

You see these guys as cold-blooded. I see them as friends and neighbors who would like to make it home to see their families again. You can bash our current administration for the choices its made...I'm ok with that, but you have no right bashing people who are over there doing their jobs and putting their lives on the line.

of course i know it. I was also a soilder.

but never shot a person alive before. Just wondering myself in their place if i could do like that. nvm

Well, thats definitely not the way your post came across. I also wonder how I would handle a situation like that. Must be intense!

i just drove some tanks in Thailand. Love to handle such a high-tech chopper. It would be a fun if the enemies is like those iraqi thugs out there but it was not that fun even in training.

Originally posted by kuso
I changed the title for you.......let me know if you don`t like it.

Thanks Kuso. Thats just fine

Originally posted by Var
You can bash our current administration for the choices its made...I'm ok with that, but you have no right bashing people who are over there doing their jobs and putting their lives on the line.

Well then how about bashing the Iraq administration and recognising that thier soliders are no different to ours.........in their eyes we are invading their country, which they are putting thier lives on the line against a far superior force, to defend.

I can see soliders celebrating a victory when it comes, but I cannot see any respectable solider celebrating the death of the enemy. As I`m sure they can relate to the other sides situation a whole lot better than we that find it hard to see the line between CNN footage and a Rambo movie......

Rambo was a good movie.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
Rambo was a good movie.

Very!

I`m a little sad to hear Stallone is writing #4 now though

I thought he was writing Rocky 6 where he shits his pants every time he gets hit, much like a real geriatric would.

Excellent video brother. Shows what it's really like. to all you negative individuals,,, As horrific as that video seems, Think of what a video of how some of our AMERICAN troops being killed would have looked like. Ever see an RPG hit a truck before? Do you not think WE had troops die a more horrible death then you have just seen at the hands of individuals such as those 3??? You have blinders on let me tell you. I have no pitty for those 3 animals and I'd have no problem pulling the trigger myself and turning them into Kibbles and Bits. Would I yell out a victory yell afterwards? No. Personnally I don't see humor in the video but it did give me a rush of adrenaline. I can see someone that hates our ENEMY saying it was funny because he/they are saying it out of total hate for people killing OUR troops. Let him hate his way and believe me now, if he or anyone that thinks the video was funny,,, do it for real and I'll bet you won't be smiling afterwards or think it is funny. War is not fun War is hell. No matter how bad your enemy is and you kill them,,,,,you live with that for the rest of your life and that is not fun. Peace/ Out.

Originally posted by firestorm
Excellent video brother. Shows what it's really like. to all you negative individuals,,, As horrific as that video seems, Think of what a video of how some of our AMERICAN troops being killed would have looked like. Ever see an RPG hit a truck before? Do you not think WE had troops die a more horrible death then you have just seen at the hands of individuals such as those 3??? You have blinders on let me tell you. I have no pitty for those 3 animals and I'd have no problem pulling the trigger myself and turning them into Kibbles and Bits. Would I yell out a victory yell afterwards? No. Personnally I don't see humor in the video but it did give me a rush of adrenaline. I can see someone that hates our ENEMY saying it was funny because he/they are saying it out of total hate for people killing OUR troops. Let him hate his way and believe me now, if he or anyone that thinks the video was funny,,, do it for real and I'll bet you won't be smiling afterwards or think it is funny. War is not fun War is hell. No matter how bad your enemy is and you kill them,,,,,you live with that for the rest of your life and that is not fun. Peace/ Out.

great post fire..couldn't agree with you more

Thanks Oak.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
I thought he was writing Rocky 6 where he shits his pants every time he gets hit, much like a real geriatric would.

Ya know Dale I know your being funny and that is cool bro. I actually did laugh. But in all seriousness, Ya can poke fun at Slys age and doing another Rocky but my man,, the man is like 51 now and looks better them most of the people at this board including myself. So I couldn't ever call him a geriatric. Oh yea expecially since I'm 41 myself. hahahaha

This is a true fact. Ever hear the saying " don't shoot till you see the white of their eyes? Point of that statement is,, wait till the tangos are within a good killing range then open up. fireing at too far a distance allows them coverage and are far more scattered about turning the situation into a firestorm. (hey cool, I just got to use my name). So anyway my point is this. A soldier that has actually waited until the tango was close enough to see his face and then take aim and fire will be more likely to be able to tell you what that persons face looked like 20 years later with better detail then his own mothers face. This goes mostely for 1st kills or few combat kills. Seasoned vets never forget their 1st but it does become second nature for them after some combat experience. Many suffer Post traumatic Stress disorder years after their service and this is due to the killing they did in many cases or seeing their friends and servicemen killed. Did I mention War is hell? So is Post war.