the most profound book you ever read

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 08:13 PM

What's the most profound, eye opening, life-changing, problem solving book you ever read? Its okay to list more then one. No religious texts.

Post #5

I read the Bible, read the Koran, read the parts of Torah (namely the Talmud). I like Sun Tzu and Machiavelli better. I hope this clears things up on the type of literature I'm interested in. I'm not looking for the meaning of life, just looking to learn how to hustle better.

My pick would be "48 Laws of power" by Robert Greene.

Hammerlynn · 02-28-2004, 09:07 PM

I'm not sure why you say no religious texts?? the Purpose Driven Life was an awesome book that helped me put things in perspective!

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 09:25 PM

1-Because I don't want any altrications with anybody.
2-I meant books on the pragmatic side of things.

canuck_newbie · 02-28-2004, 09:32 PM

Hello iMan,

Religious writings can carry a pragmatic message. The Bible, for instance, isn't all "cloud talk," but contains a lot of practical and pragmatic lessons for daily living.

I personally don't think that I can narrow it down to one single book, but I will put "48 Laws of Power" on my to-read list.

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 09:39 PM

I read the Bible, read the Koran, read the parts of Torah (namely the Talmud). I like Sun Tzu and Machiavelli better. I hope this clears things up on the type of literature I'm interested in.

I'm not looking for the meaning of life, just looking to learn how to hustle better.

Eggs · 02-28-2004, 09:42 PM

This thread isnt about altercations... you cant ask people what the most profound book they ever read was and put limitations on it though.

Thats like saying... "Okay all, tell me which book has changed your life the most. Oh, and by the way, you have to choose from books that have been turned into Disney films".

Regardless, I'm not sure what I'd put up there... would have to think about it

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 09:50 PM

Bodybuilding for Dummies.

canuck_newbie · 02-28-2004, 10:19 PM

iMan,

Not to quible, but the Torah is the Hebrew name for the Old Testament of the Bible. The Talmud is something quite different, and is a colleciton of rabbinical teachings.

Eric

P.S. I found Sun Tsu interesting as well, but I found that while much of his military wisdom was timeless, other parts were either dated or were simple common sense.

Stickboy · 02-28-2004, 10:27 PM

"Hustle better"?

I'm not inclined to supply information that will let you "hustle better" until you define what you mean by that.

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 10:29 PM

simple common sense is a rare commodity!!

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 10:35 PM

This is such a nice idea for a thread , the problem is that you chose a wrong moment to do that.

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 10:35 PM

"hustle better"=how not to get taken for a sucker, how to get an upper hand in difficult situations, how to influence people, how to seize the opportunities.

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 10:39 PM

Hey iMan323 I was looking for a book, I think that it really fits here. I don´t remember the title but it was very famous in America two years ago. It is a book about getting out of difficult situations, like a car crash, airplane problems, ... Do you remember?

Eggs · 02-28-2004, 10:43 PM

Oooh, I know what you're talking about. They have those books for dating and stuff too!

common sense is certainly a great asset... much of what Sun Tzu said was common sense. At least to many of us these days that have hindsight to our favor. That said, some of his principals are still very beneficial, if you know how to apply them

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 10:50 PM

Vieope, the books you're talking about are the "Worst Case Scenario: Survival Guide to ____________" series. I got the dating and sex one as a joke for my b-day last year and that book is hilarious.

I learned great things from that book such as telling the difference between a really buff chick from a transvestite, which ironically came useful one summer day.

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 10:52 PM

Thanks so much.

Oh, a book that I liked was Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Coleman.

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 10:54 PM

oohh..vieope, now you talking man!

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 10:59 PM

The Disciplined Trader by Mark Douglas is a great great book from which many lessons could be extracted. Even the book is about trading stocks, he goes into great length about controlling one's emotions and being 100% objective. And that my friends, is an amazing skill to have.

Eggs · 02-28-2004, 11:01 PM

Being objective is an amazing skill

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iMan323
The Disciplined Trader by Mark Douglas is a great great book from which many lessons could be extracted. Even the book is about trading stocks, he goes into great length about controlling one's emotions and being 100% objective. And that my friends, is an amazing skill to have.

You should post this tip in the thread about God, everybody is a little nervous over there.

iMan323 · 02-28-2004, 11:04 PM

This thread believes in separation of church and state

Vieope · 02-28-2004, 11:07 PM

I am not a huge fan of Friedrich Nietzsche because he is a little bit extreme in some subjects. Overall, his books are very good.

Mordred · 02-29-2004, 04:32 AM

I would highly recommend reading Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche. Don't just take everything he says to be correct though...

Also, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind.

Eggs · 02-29-2004, 04:53 AM

I do believe there is a book that was written near Nietzsche's death where he laments wasting his life on nothing and says he was probably wrong about God. I cant remember exactly what the name was "Bedside.." something or other perhaps.

Mordred · 02-29-2004, 05:45 AM

Never heard of it...The Will to Power is the only work of Nietzsche's I'm aware of that was published postumously. That also has some good stuff, but is more a collection of short or unfinished writings than a single piece.

Vieope · 02-29-2004, 07:47 AM

Yes, I never heard of another work near his death. He went insane for years and "The Will to Power" is a collection of his notes. I wanna buy this book just for the title.

BUSTINOUT · 02-29-2004, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iMan323
"hustle better"=how not to get taken for a sucker, how to get an upper hand in difficult situations, how to influence people, how to seize the opportunities.

Sounds more to me how can you manipulate people.

BUSTINOUT · 02-29-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammerlynn
I'm not sure why you say no religious texts?? the Purpose Driven Life was an awesome book that helped me put things in perspective!

Outstanding book hammer.

ALBOB · 03-01-2004, 06:31 PM

Voice of Reason: Fundamentals of Critical Thinking - Porter, Burton Frederick

If common sense were common, everyone would have it.

I like this book because I don't think you can EVER have enough common sense.

maniclion · 03-01-2004, 07:19 PM

Dr. Seuss "The Lorax". I did a book report on it mirroring it to today's issues and it really stuck with me in 7th grade. I wonder if that's what led me to work in photovoltaics?

02-28-2004, 08:13 PM	#1
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	the most profound book you ever read What's the most profound, eye opening, life-changing, problem solving book you ever read? Its okay to list more then one. No religious texts. Post #5 I read the Bible, read the Koran, read the parts of Torah (namely the Talmud). I like Sun Tzu and Machiavelli better. I hope this clears things up on the type of literature I'm interested in. I'm not looking for the meaning of life, just looking to learn how to hustle better. My pick would be "48 Laws of power" by Robert Greene. Last edited by iMan323 : 02-28-2004 at 09:56 PM.

02-28-2004, 09:07 PM	#2
Hammerlynn Former Fat Girl Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 1,376	I'm not sure why you say no religious texts?? the Purpose Driven Life was an awesome book that helped me put things in perspective! Completed: Indianapolis Mini Marathon 2004 and 2005 Valparaiso Mini Marathon 2006 Chicago Marathon 2004 and 2006 www.myspace.com/fitness_runner

02-29-2004, 04:32 AM	#23
Mordred [H]ard Physicist Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Total Perspective Vortex Posts: 35	I would highly recommend reading Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche. Don't just take everything he says to be correct though... Also, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind. "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." --Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

02-29-2004, 05:45 AM	#25
Mordred [H]ard Physicist Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Total Perspective Vortex Posts: 35	Never heard of it...The Will to Power is the only work of Nietzsche's I'm aware of that was published postumously. That also has some good stuff, but is more a collection of short or unfinished writings than a single piece. "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." --Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

03-01-2004, 06:31 PM	#29
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,385	Voice of Reason: Fundamentals of Critical Thinking - Porter, Burton Frederick If common sense were common, everyone would have it. I like this book because I don't think you can EVER have enough common sense. Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

02-28-2004, 09:25 PM	#3
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	1-Because I don't want any altrications with anybody. 2-I meant books on the pragmatic side of things.

02-28-2004, 09:32 PM	#4
canuck_newbie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 167 Photos: 1	Hello iMan, Religious writings can carry a pragmatic message. The Bible, for instance, isn't all "cloud talk," but contains a lot of practical and pragmatic lessons for daily living. I personally don't think that I can narrow it down to one single book, but I will put "48 Laws of Power" on my to-read list.

02-28-2004, 09:39 PM	#5
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	I read the Bible, read the Koran, read the parts of Torah (namely the Talmud). I like Sun Tzu and Machiavelli better. I hope this clears things up on the type of literature I'm interested in. I'm not looking for the meaning of life, just looking to learn how to hustle better.

02-28-2004, 09:42 PM	#6
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	This thread isnt about altercations... you cant ask people what the most profound book they ever read was and put limitations on it though. Thats like saying... "Okay all, tell me which book has changed your life the most. Oh, and by the way, you have to choose from books that have been turned into Disney films". Regardless, I'm not sure what I'd put up there... would have to think about it

02-28-2004, 09:50 PM	#7
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Bodybuilding for Dummies.

02-28-2004, 10:19 PM	#8
canuck_newbie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 167 Photos: 1	iMan, Not to quible, but the Torah is the Hebrew name for the Old Testament of the Bible. The Talmud is something quite different, and is a colleciton of rabbinical teachings. Eric P.S. I found Sun Tsu interesting as well, but I found that while much of his military wisdom was timeless, other parts were either dated or were simple common sense.

02-28-2004, 10:27 PM	#9
Stickboy Rebel without a clue Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,115	"Hustle better"? I'm not inclined to supply information that will let you "hustle better" until you define what you mean by that.

02-28-2004, 10:29 PM	#10
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	simple common sense is a rare commodity!!

02-28-2004, 10:35 PM	#11
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	This is such a nice idea for a thread , the problem is that you chose a wrong moment to do that.

02-28-2004, 10:39 PM	#13
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Hey iMan323 I was looking for a book, I think that it really fits here. I don´t remember the title but it was very famous in America two years ago. It is a book about getting out of difficult situations, like a car crash, airplane problems, ... Do you remember?

02-28-2004, 10:43 PM	#14
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Oooh, I know what you're talking about. They have those books for dating and stuff too! common sense is certainly a great asset... much of what Sun Tzu said was common sense. At least to many of us these days that have hindsight to our favor. That said, some of his principals are still very beneficial, if you know how to apply them

02-28-2004, 10:50 PM	#15
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	Vieope, the books you're talking about are the "Worst Case Scenario: Survival Guide to ____________" series. I got the dating and sex one as a joke for my b-day last year and that book is hilarious. I learned great things from that book such as telling the difference between a really buff chick from a transvestite, which ironically came useful one summer day.

02-28-2004, 10:52 PM	#16
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Thanks so much. Oh, a book that I liked was Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Coleman.

02-28-2004, 10:54 PM	#17
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	oohh..vieope, now you talking man!

02-28-2004, 10:59 PM	#18
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	The Disciplined Trader by Mark Douglas is a great great book from which many lessons could be extracted. Even the book is about trading stocks, he goes into great length about controlling one's emotions and being 100% objective. And that my friends, is an amazing skill to have.

02-28-2004, 11:01 PM	#19
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Being objective is an amazing skill

02-28-2004, 11:04 PM	#21
iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	This thread believes in separation of church and state

02-28-2004, 11:07 PM	#22
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	I am not a huge fan of Friedrich Nietzsche because he is a little bit extreme in some subjects. Overall, his books are very good.

02-29-2004, 04:53 AM	#24
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	I do believe there is a book that was written near Nietzsche's death where he laments wasting his life on nothing and says he was probably wrong about God. I cant remember exactly what the name was "Bedside.." something or other perhaps.

02-29-2004, 07:47 AM	#26
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Yes, I never heard of another work near his death. He went insane for years and "The Will to Power" is a collection of his notes. I wanna buy this book just for the title.

03-01-2004, 07:19 PM	#30
maniclion Cartographer of the Mind Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mens Incognita Posts: 20,430 Photos: 10	Dr. Seuss "The Lorax". I did a book report on it mirroring it to today's issues and it really stuck with me in 7th grade. I wonder if that's what led me to work in photovoltaics? "We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." Thomas Edison: In conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone

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