Thread: "The Passion of the Christ" - 500 million +

I think he should go on a hooker, drug, and booze binge for about three years.

I agree with IAB.


While I am not remotely religious, I think it is great that he has made all that money off of this movie considering movie execs wouldn't touch it. I would rather see him get it than a production company.

Originally posted by I Are Baboon
I think he should go on a hooker, drug, and booze binge for about three years.

maybe 4

Originally posted by I Are Baboon
I think he should go on a hooker, drug, and booze binge for about three years.

Classic! I think the right thing would be for him to to give me enough $ to go on a hooker, drug, and booze binge.

I'm sure he'll give 10% (or more) to the church, but whatever else he does with it simply isn't anyone's buisness.

If you really want to know, John H. perhaps you should ask him.

Yeah, I really don't think it's any of your business what he does with his money John H. I think you need to focus in on your life and stop wondering if everyone else is living right.

The real question you should be asking is "What would YOU do if it was your 500 mil?"

I'm willing to bet he gives at least 10%. Kinda makes all the idiots that said he should have given the 25 mil to charity to begin with..real math wizards. lol

Originally posted by Stickboy
I'm sure he'll give 10% (or more) to the church, but whatever else he does with it simply isn't anyone's buisness.

If you really want to know, John H. perhaps you should ask him.

Hi Stickboy. I watched a number of the interviews he did before the movie came out (there were many and on a number of stations) and was so "popular". He stated he knows of the "other side" (the left) and he felt there was nothing there for him or anyone else since he had done everything and experienced just about everything there so he went to the right. He said HE believes in the entire Bible and that you either believe in it ALL or not at all. He said he believed in it and Christ also.

This is all fine - as long as he LIVES by what he says and would want others to do also as he has said. Thus my questions.

IF he DOES believe and follows and practices what he preaches would it not follow then that he would also DO as Christ actually SAID to do? It seems to me that a man that HAS vast wealth already (before he made this movie and the money associated with it) that he would want to spread the wealth he made from this movie to those who are less fortunate - as Christ said to do - is he now following the word of Christ in HIS life (Mel Gibson's own life) and DOING as Christ said to do?

I have not heard anything as to how he will utilize the additional wealth he is making from this film. If Mel Gibson IS living his life as Christ said to do... Or is he just making more money for himself? I am not trying to be "sour grapes" here, just wondering IF he REALLY IS living and doing as he professes?

I hope he is not using the death of Christ to enrich himself as the expense and utilizing people's fears and lack of answers to life's most important questions...

I wonder.

He spent 5 million on a church that is HIS - his own church - which he says he is in charge of and/or the head of. There was a news report in Fox News (if I remember correctly it was on the internet also) that this church he built (it was under construction at the time of the interviews before the movie came out) he wants no one to know where it is and those that do he does not want anyone to tell others where it is... Seems strange to me.

Before Mel Gibson built his own church for 5 million, he gave roughly 5 million to a Catholic Church (I believe it was reported in two separate donation amounts totalling about 5 million).

He has said he wants to have his church follow the old methods of the old Roman Catholic Church. Apparently the Catholic Church did not agree with him on this so that is apparently when he built his own church.

Just wondering about all this....

Take Care, John H.

Originally posted by rock4832
Yeah, I really don't think it's any of your business what he does with his money John H. I think you need to focus in on your life and stop wondering if everyone else is living right.

Hi Rock. Normally I do feel it is a person's private business - UNLESS - that person is TELLING others how to live their lives which is what Mel Gibson is doing. I saw his interviews and that is why I was responding so. If he can tell others how to live their lives and he SAYS he is living his a certain way then I feel it is fine for someone to follow up on what he is saying and actually doing.

As for my life, believe me I focus on it completely. I do have a right to question someone else who sets himself up to question how others live their lives. Mel Gibson has done this. I am not trying to run him down for any reason necessarily, he will do that automatically based on what he actually does, says, and follows through on - or not.

He actions should speak louder then his words I feel. To be credible he should take that advice he says others should take equally.

Take Care, John H.

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
The real question you should be asking is "What would YOU do if it was your 500 mil?"

I'm willing to bet he gives at least 10%. Kinda makes all the idiots that said he should have given the 25 mil to charity to begin with..real math wizards. lol

Hi Bustinout. What would I do with the money - I can tell you HONESTLY that if I said as Mel Gibson has said I would be giving ALL of that money I made on the film to those less fortunate - HONESLTY deserving so. Every penny above the actual costs. Yes, I would - IF I was being honest and very sincere and following what Christ said to do as Mel Gibson has said he is doing. The 10% figure is outrageous in my mind. That is a very small amount especially when you think about the subject of the movie he has made. Its message, etc.

Take Care, John H.

He is telling a story in his movie, nothing more. Do you think he was telling everyone to slaughter the British in Braveheart.

If you have a link to an article where he says everyone should give their money to the poor, I would love to see it.

Also, not all of the poor are victims of an unfortunate event, a large number of them are just lazy. Bible or not, this behavior should not be rewarded. When I first moved to Philly, I used to give any bum who asked a dollar. I don't do that anymore since there are people working their asses off at 3 jobs just scraping by and these wanderers are just asking for handouts. On occasion I will give them money if they can tell me a good story, however.

Originally posted by Var
Classic! I think the right thing would be for him to to give me enough $ to go on a hooker, drug, and booze binge.

Hi Var. Apparently in Mel Gibson's former life (living "left") he did just about everything and tried just about everything. He said he was addicted and when asked to what he said "you name it"... So I guess a person can say based on his statements he knows about the "left"?

I was actually concerned about him and his mental state his sincereity, etc. when I saw the various interviews he made on various programs. I watched him closely and listened to him closely and his responses and actions. I wondered then if he might not have some residual problems associated with his life as he had "lived" it and/or experienced it. He seemed to have some problems he was not addressing and that something was missing from his life. I was just wondering.

Take Care, John H.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
He is telling a story in his movie, nothing more. Do you think he was telling everyone to slaughter the British in Braveheart.

If you have a link to an article where he says everyone should give their money to the poor, I would love to see it.

Post of the Day.

What's the over/under on "Number of Posts before John H starts talking about gays?"

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
He is telling a story in his movie, nothing more. Do you think he was telling everyone to slaughter the British in Braveheart.

If you have a link to an article where he says everyone should give their money to the poor, I would love to see it.

Hi Dale. There is a LOT more to this "...telling a story in his movie..." In order to understand where I am coming from and why I question you would have had to seen the interviews before the moving came out that he did - several - and the reporting that was done associated with him and his movie. It is critical that you see these. Mel Gibson was making the statements with regard to living life and how someone should do that and how he lives his - past and present... Mel Gibson said he believes in every word of the Bible and believes in Christ - thus my questioning what he is going to do with the money he has made on this portion of Christ's life and what Christ said for others to do in their lives. Is he now following what he (Mel Gibson) has said he is doing in HIS life? See what I am saying?

There was a lot of PRE-movie interviewing and a lot said by Mel Gibson about himself and the movie he made. I have seen nothing subsequent to the showing of his movie and what will happen to the money made from it.

Take Care, John H.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
He is telling a story in his movie, nothing more. Do you think he was telling everyone to slaughter the British in Braveheart.

If you have a link to an article where he says everyone should give their money to the poor, I would love to see it.

Also, not all of the poor are victims of an unfortunate event, a large number of them are just lazy. Bible or not, this behavior should not be rewarded. When I first moved to Philly, I used to give any bum who asked a dollar. I don't do that anymore since there are people working their asses off at 3 jobs just scraping by and these wanderers are just asking for handouts. On occasion I will give them money if they can tell me a good story, however.

Hi Dale. I am speaking about those that are HONESTLY deserving. Sure each person has an obligation to honestly DO for themselves. I am speaking from the point of view of what Christ said to DO for those that are less fortunate honestly so. Those that are lazy and will not do for themselve do not deserve anymore than what they put into their own efforts.

Take Care, John H.

Originally posted by Pepper
What's the over/under on "Number of Posts before John H starts talking about gays?"

Pepper. How do you arrive at this statement? Where have I talked about "Gays" in this thread? I was speaking about Mel Gibson and the movie he made about the last twelve hours of Christ's life. I was speaking about how Mel Gibson has stated himself how he has lived his life and how others should and the reasons he made the movie based on interviews he made in the media.

John H.

Originally posted by John H.
Pepper. How do you arrive at this statement? Where have I talked about "Gays" in this thread? I was speaking about Mel Gibson and the movie he made about the last twelve hours of Christ's life. I was speaking about how Mel Gibson has stated himself how he has lived his life and how others should and the reasons he made the movie based on interviews he made in the media.

John H.

It was a joke, John, just a joke.

John, I think Mel did an amazing thing with this movie and I do believe he is a follower of Christ. He does not need to do anything with his money to convince me of this. But then again this is not between me and Mel but between God and Mel. I have no business judging his life nor do you.

And very respectfully, I have very little faith that you understand the Christian faith from the posts I've read from you. I do not think you understand that Bible and only pick out scriptures to prove some mutated point YOU want to prove.

Originally posted by Pepper
What's the over/under on "Number of Posts before John H starts talking about gays?"

This is quite funny.


Anyway John, if the church really did follow the "Law of Christ", a large portion of the collection plate should go to the needy. I have seen hundreds of Churches and most of these buildings are incredible and I bet incredibly expensive, some in the millions. Who says you need an immaculate building to pray in? I am not religious, but I would dare say that most of the people currently going to Church and the clergy involved missed his point as well.

anyone know what percentage of the Vatican's wealth (think art, gold etc) is going to the poor this year?

didn't think so.

and before anyone freaks out....i'm not starting a "bash Catholicism" thread. i'm just making the point that if the church itself holds onto wealth that doesn't go directly to the poor and needy....who are we to want percentages from Mel?

Originally posted by John H.
The movie by Mel Gibson "The Passion of the Christ" I understand is approaching the 500 million dollar mark in sales.

My question: since it cost 30 million to make, what is Mel Gibson planning to do with the profit? Will he be Christ-like? He says he believes in every word of the Bible and in Christ. Will he then help those who are less fortunate in this country and around the world with the profits? Will he build more churches as he has done (he has built one that cost 5 million to build before he made this film)? Or will he be more down-to-earth and Christ-like - do as Christ said to do?

John H.

John,

The Bible was written by men, so we have no idea what Christ said to do. Christ never said anything about what to do, and he never did say anything. The Bible was written by men, and Jesus never said anything, and never did. How can Mel Gibson do as Christ said when he never said anything, because the Bible was written by men, and not by Jesus I might add.

Craig

Maybe Mel could invest the money in better writers so if he produces a sequel people will not fall asleep watching it.

Yes, I did see the movie, it was awful.

Out of everyone I know that has seen the movie, your the first for me to hear say that. Bound to happen though, can't make something EVERYONE will like.

Originally posted by rock4832
Out of everyone I know that has seen the movie, your the first for me to hear say that. Bound to happen though, can't make something EVERYONE will like.

not sure who you're talking to, but I have spoken with several people that share my opinion, even some Christians.

I do think that it COULD have been a good movie had the first half or even 3/4 been focused on Christ and his life, but watching him get beaten to death for 1.5 hours is not my idea of a good movie.

Originally posted by Prince
not sure who you're talking to, but I have spoken with several people that share my opinion, even some Christians.

I do think that it COULD have been a good movie had the first half or even 3/4 been focused on Christ and his life, but watching him get beaten to death for 1.5 hours is not my idea of a good movie.

I thought it was a good movie but I completely agree with you on the focusing on his life more. Those were the moments that really hit me and established him as a real person. Then to cut from those personal scenes back to the torture made it even harder to watch.

Originally posted by John H.
Before Mel Gibson built his own church for 5 million, he gave roughly 5 million to a Catholic Church (I believe it was reported in two separate donation amounts totalling about 5 million).

He has said he wants to have his church follow the old methods of the old Roman Catholic Church. Apparently the Catholic Church did not agree with him on this so that is apparently when he built his own church.

Just wondering about all this....

Take Care, John H.

John H.,

Couple of things here. Gibson is a Catholic that doesn't follow the Vatican II decrees. Many that I know in the church prefer the older ways. (BTW, Read a book called 'AA-1025' if you need more info on why some catholics are wary about Vatican II.).

No, catholics can choose to take mass in the old ways. Many parishes don't, but the ones that do are not disowned by the Vatican. They are still very much a part of the church.

He didn't build his OWN church. He gave money to the church to have one built, and that just happens to be the one he goes too.

The church only requires people give 10% of what they make. Not many do that, in actuality. If he gives 10%, then there it is.

I still think it no bodies business what he does with his money.

Originally posted by craig777
John,

The Bible was written by men, so we have no idea what Christ said to do. Christ never said anything about what to do, and he never did say anything. The Bible was written by men, and Jesus never said anything, and never did. How can Mel Gibson do as Christ said when he never said anything, because the Bible was written by men, and not by Jesus I might add.

Craig