Thread: AIDS in PORN !!!

I dont really want to take the time to answer your posts directly to mine, being that they have already been theres really no fun in that now is there? So if you dont mind, I'll work on a more frequent posting...

Originally posted by dsade
I never said she should be given donations. I agree that her actions are her actions and that she needs to accept the consequences.

Never doubted that

My comment about money was in response to the initial comment, when asked "Is money really that important?". I am saying, the world work by money. No money=death.

I dont know about you, but I could certainly live without money Theres always food to be had, shelter to be found, if you look in the right place. I'd rather do that than play Russian roullete... or in this case, do a job that very much puts me in close contact with a deadly disease.

Fantasies are about sex, perhaps in an ideal world. Condoms do not fit into that world, nor into that fantasy. It has nothing to do with the "real world worst-case consequences" of certain actions.

I have fantasies that arent about sex I want to be an astronaut one day... and land on the moon Umm, not really, but it sounded fun didnt it?

Killing people is immoral, based on the principle of reciprocal recognition of fundamental rights. Making porn does not violate someone else's rights. My argument did not state that explicitly, but it shouldn't have to.

I dont believe in fundamental rights... and I dont believe you have any basis for them. In fact, I think that rights go against the theory of evolution and are stifling our ability to transform into an even more magnifacent creature. You're assuming that everyone must have the same fundamental beliefs as you do here. And you are definitely assuming alot in your statement. If you can prove that porn has no negative side affects whatsoever in society then you will be a bit closer to saying that it does not violate anyone elses rights. However, if there is damage inflicted on society indirectly then your argument is lost... but being that you are such a philosophical creature you knew that, and ignored it.

Craig - now you are just sad. I'm sorry that you worhip the virginal as an ideal, and that it has caused a schism between the real world and this ideal. Why would sexual contact ruin innocence? And you enjoy reading ad hominem attacks in place of reasoned counter arguments, because that is most likely the extent of your intellectual development.

Puhlease, who are you to call anybody sad? Who are you to say anything? you're a few specks of particles clinging together that in a few years will shit, fall apart and cease to exist. After that you're existence on earth will never have mattered, and no one will remember you. You might as well have never existed. I personally think that is sad But you know... tis the fate of all, at least if they prescribe to your anal expulsions. What is the meaning of innocence? Obviously you use the word as if its a badge that you can throw on your backpack when you so feel like it and thus it has no meaning to you, so why do you even use it at all if it has no meaning? To Craig it does have meaning, and its meaning is situated soundly in his moral code. You have no such code apparently, or at least no such ability to recognise anything as innocent, so how could you possibly attack him with your inadequate philosophical arguments?

At least Dante was an enjoyable character in his postings.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
I would contend that it would be the opposite. Look at the Priests who raped choir boys. They were truly deprived and look what happened. Had they had a chance to "vent" maybe some of it would have been prevented. Mind you I don't think children should really be watching it, although I watched Cinemax from an early age so call me a hypocrit, at least I got to see titties.

I think that this is an exception and not the rule. Same as one bad cop gives us all a bad name.

Originally posted by dsade
Stunning logic.

Somebody around here has to exhibit it... do we have any volunteers? No no... Dsade, put your hand down

If you are not a virgin you are not innocent - regardless of the moral principles that you live by? Your misguided world is so black and white, except your concepts of black and white are inverted, and you don't even know this.

You didnt make a point at all... you just called him names and said "nanner, you're wrong". Come now, I'm sure you can do better than that... you have the team rooting for you

My comment was addressed to the fact that you offered nothing of substance, in addition to thinking that a personal attack (without an accompanying reasoned argument) was enjoyable. I'm glad you can run a flight simulator. It means nothing as far as grasping or applying philosophical principles to action in life.

Wow, and only you can do such as that! Oh, and he said run the development of a flight simulator didnt he? Just to make a point here, there is a difference

Actually, I would go with Dale in the application of innocence. If she said she would not do something, but then went ahead and did it for the money, I would say that would be a forfeiture of innocence as it is a violation of principle and morality (if even the arbitrary morality set up by her).

Oh, so doing something we said we werent going to requires we forfeit our innocence? Damn... and the other day I said I wasnt going to eat a twinkie, and I did! I'm such an uninnocent piece of shit...

FYI - I offered no definition of innocence - only pointed out the flaws in yours.

No, you really havent offered anything of value to the conversation, least of all the definition of innocence. But you do show some fancy footwork, good game!

Originally posted by Eggs


you're a few specks of particles clinging together that in a few years will shit, fall apart and cease to exist. After that you're existence on earth will never have mattered, and no one will remember you.

Well I really feel better now! Thanks for those words of encouragement.

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
I would contend that it would be the opposite. Look at the Priests who raped choir boys. They were truly deprived and look what happened. Had they had a chance to "vent" maybe some of it would have been prevented. Mind you I don't think children should really be watching it, although I watched Cinemax from an early age so call me a hypocrit, at least I got to see titties.

Actually Dale, gotta disagree with you here bud... I'd say that giving priests porn wouldnt lessen the problem. Perhaps giving them a pack of condoms and telling them to go get some action would though. I dont see them fantasizing about it 24/7 to be beneficial to keep them from needing it.

The bad stuff going on with priests these days is that they are trying to follow the ideal of absitenance, when its not so much an ideal and definitely not necessarily a practical thing in our time. The way to end it is to say that priests can have sex and marry... not to give them Deby Does Dallas

Originally posted by dg806
Well I really feel better now! Thanks for those words of encouragement.

Haha, what I was saying was that if you have a worldview with a foundation of glass, dont be throwing stones at others worldviews.

Originally posted by naturaltan
too much? ... We pretend to be parents every once in a while.

Ahh, back to enjoyable conversation... well thats cool NT, you know, its not so bad to do every now and then Dont get too caught up in it though!

Originally posted by naturaltan
... me neither, damn, I need to be part of a union to get my just desserts

We can call it the Local 69

Originally posted by Eggs
Puhlease, who are you to call anybody sad? Who are you to say anything? you're a few specks of particles clinging together that in a few years will shit, fall apart and cease to exist. After that you're existence on earth will never have mattered, and no one will remember you. You might as well have never existed. I personally think that is sad But you know... tis the fate of all, at least if they prescribe to your anal expulsions. What is the meaning of innocence? Obviously you use the word as if its a badge that you can throw on your backpack when you so feel like it and thus it has no meaning to you, so why do you even use it at all if it has no meaning? To Craig it does have meaning, and its meaning is situated soundly in his moral code. You have no such code apparently, or at least no such ability to recognise anything as innocent, so how could you possibly attack him with your inadequate philosophical arguments?

At least Dante was an enjoyable character in his postings.

dsade,

Sorry I couldn't get right back to you, at the moment I would love to be those specks of particles with nothing to worry about. Maybe you have that luxury, but I don't.


Eggs, I love your responses they do brighten my day, which is a very good thing at the moment.


Sucks to be responsible sometimes, oh dsade I am sorry you wouldn't know would you.