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    Here is another thread on Pat Tillman...

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    Originally posted by RCfootball87
    Horrible. But my Question was how many UNENLISTED AMERICANS were killed. People get slaughtered all over the world, but our militaries original purpose was to protect the lives of Americans, not people from China. And as far as soldiers go, It's sad when they die but that doesn't mean it's anything like killing a American children.
    Keep shit in perspective and study a map man. It was not on our soil. Had it been, you can bet your baby smooth arse their would have been.

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    Originally posted by RCfootball87
    In my experience, racism is generated from negative past experiences with people.
    Therein lies the problem...your experience. It is very limited at best. Racism is born out of ignorance and passed from generation to generation, regardless of past experience. Either that, or they allow their heads to be filled by a bunch of losers that are looking for excuses as to why they are societies failures...blame the "coon", "spick", "wop" or whever else.
    I'll admit it, I have a problem with most Mexicans I meet, although there are some Mexicans that are good people, I don't like 75% of the ones I've met. Maybe I'm not partial towards their culture and lifestyle, who knows.
    You got issues if you don't like a race because of their culture, but like I said in my response about, racism is born out of ignorance.

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    Originally posted by dg806
    I bet most here are too young to remember the Olympics in Munich in 72. The killings........................terroists! It just never got here till 9-11. Police depts. have had meetings with the FBI. One thing they told us is this.....................IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN! WE JUST DON"T KNOW WHEN.
    So, do we need to keep giving them more time? No way in hell.
    That's exactly why we should not be in Iraq. There is no terrorism coming from Iraq. Iraq did not sponsor terrorism. The funds and troops should be elsewhere, mostly in the U.S.

    We are already in Afghanistan which is good, and the Philippines, which I think is good, and we have conducted operations in Yemen, and other parts of the world.

    Iraq is NOT about Terrorism, nor the War on T.

    It's a completely separate issue.
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    Originally posted by dg806
    Oh really? So you think we can let down our guard, do away with National security and go about our lives like nothing ever happened? If left unchecked, these third world countries will develop nuclear weapons(some already have) and will try to rule the world like Hitler did. Like OD said, it's time to wake the fuck up people.
    dg806,

    I totally agree with you on the Nuke issue. It is dangerous, scary and real. These nations can and will sell them to anyone who will pay. Nuclear proliferation will be a major problem perhaps, in the future.

    What I meant was that *at the time* Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, and Central American were not threats to American freedom, and they also did not have access to nuclear weapons and inter-continental ballistic capapbilities.

    Such is history though....we had not idea that communism would collapse (initially in 1989) and for sure in 1991. If we had known that we likely wouldn't have spent so many lives, and so much money fighting the communist threat.

    As we are humanm, we cannot tell the future.....
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    """""""""""Great plan, send all the college bound kids to war so we have no educated people in our society in years to come, only speeding the process of our economy crumbling underneath itself. No college, no good jobs, no good jobs, no money, no money no good military, no good military- worldwide payback for all the shit we started. And just cause you've been in the military doesn't make you a badass. You don't have to see a middle easterner get his head blown off in order to make basic intellectually sound decisions""""""""""

    Hey sunshine did you learn this in college? Refresh my memory but didnt we draft millions of 18yo's in past conflicts, and after they won it, didnt a lot of them go back to college? Didnt economic prosperity flower thereafter ? Exactly where did you develope your INTL economic theorys from ? Or are you just currently in college and dont wish to fight for the freedoms and advantages you take for granted ?

    I suggest you first get out of grade school before you lecture someone like me. I may not be "bad enough" to hang a handgun by my name but Ive paid my debt to my country many fold. And Im proud of it!

    Ever been under fire sunshine? It scares the shit out of ya, it always did me. Maybe thats why I dont hang that Ruger next to my moniker. Before you insult strangers try growing up and maybe try to learn something from those that have actually "been there". I bet you'll be a better person for it................................take care.................Rich

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    Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
    Keep shit in perspective and study a map man. It was not on our soil. Had it been, you can bet your baby smooth arse their would have been.
    You just help to reenforce my point. It wasn't on American soil. The only reason you resort to name calling is because you have no argument.
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    Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
    Therein lies the problem...your experience. It is very limited at best. Racism is born out of ignorance and passed from generation to generation, regardless of past experience. Either that, or they allow their heads to be filled by a bunch of losers that are looking for excuses as to why they are societies failures...blame the "coon", "spick", "wop" or whever else.

    You got issues if you don't like a race because of their culture, but like I said in my response about, racism is born out of ignorance.
    Like I said, I don't hate all Mexicans, nor do I pass judgement on anyone because of it. But, of all the non-white racis I've met, I prefer Asians and Blacks over Mexicans and Middle Easterners. It's just that almost every Mexican I've ever met as been someone I didn't like for on reason or another, a few I've liked. So what if I don't like a culture? I don't like loud, obnoxious, Latin music. I don't like people who have a sticker of their last names on the back of their cars in cursive old English writing. I don't like illegal aliens. Do you think you should be forced to like everything every race does, or else you're a racist? I don't like a whole lot of things a lot of white people do either, am I racist against myself? Everyone's too quick to play the race card these days, I'm not a racist, I just tend to like people from certain races better, based on a lot of the stereotypes we all often fulfill.
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    Originally posted by RCfootball87
    You just help to reenforce my point. It wasn't on American soil. The only reason you resort to name calling is because you have no argument.
    I don't recall any name calling in my post.

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    Originally posted by Mr_Snafu
    That's exactly why we should not be in Iraq. There is no terrorism coming from Iraq. Iraq did not sponsor terrorism. It's a completely separate issue.
    Sure there is. There are many terroists coming from other countries and fighting with them against the US. You can call them whatever radical group or religious group you want.................They are still terroists. Iraq is a haven for them just like Afghanistan. They know they are there and don't do anything. That makes them guilty!






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    ^ EXACTLY.

    There are TERRORISTS IN IRAQ - BECAUSE HUSSEIN IS GONE.

    Who removed him? The U.S.

    There were NO TERRORISTS in Iraq under Hussein because he would have killed them on the spot.

    This is why Iraq is a disaster.

    Have any of you even thought about this?!

    The chicken comes before the egg.

    Damn, I got angry over this.....
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    We didn't attack Iraq because they were sponsoring terrorism.

    We attack Iraq because they continually violated UN sanctions.

    The fact of the matter is that countries in the UN choose to put sanctions on Iraq. When Iraq failed to heed them only the US, Britian, Spain and a few others had the balls to back up those words the UN wrote.

    The UN is irrelevant, and I hope to see in my life time that the US is out of the UN, and the UN out of the US.

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