Thread: Honkers vs. Non-Honkers Debate

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I HATE HONKERS PERIOD!!!!!


There is nothing - AND THE "V" MEANS NOOOTHING - so damned low class as a motherfvcker sitting outside someone's house just honking the damned horn. NO MUTHERFVCKING CLASS!!

It's considered rude to honk in Hawaii, though stupid fuqin tourists trying to be tough do it. I just lay back and cruise, but if I notice some impatient idiot I give him a hard time, I speed up or slow down to box him in and maintain speed with the car next to me just to see him/her have a fit.

Today this ho came up hard on my ass in the right lane, I was already 10 MPH over the limit and her face showed she was upset. I slow down to the speed limit and she went nuts, then my exit came so I signalled and eased over, she tried to rush passed me and exit w/ no signal so I dropped it to 3rd and floored it past her. She was fuming in my rear view and then I saw the light ahead turn yellow, I could have made it and she could have made it but I decided yellow meant stop. When the light turned green I floored it and watch the expression on her face "Like omg, now he wants to be in a rush." The reason was I knew that the next light turns red really quick so I made and she didn't. I have too much fun with these spazoids.

Originally posted by Crono1000
Now on to the other side of the argument, just to show I'm not closeminded. Some people are less understanding than me (enter gr81).

ouch thanks man

I can't stand impatient people behind the wheel who honk. It usually won't speed things up, unless someone is spacing out after the light turned green.

In SEA people honk all the time as a matter of warning others that they are there, or behind, them....or whatever.

Originally posted by gr81
ouch thanks man

oh gr81, no hard feelings. I just figured you'd have a very different viewpoint on the matter.

nothing's worse than going over the speedlimit and someone honking or frustrated cuz you're not going fast enough.

What pisses me off is that they're doing it out of animosity. They have no face, they're hidden behind a shield of glass. They pay no consequence for their actions therefore they do it. Because they have a mask they can get away with anything. It's a textbook scenario, mob mentalities emerge from not being held responcible for you actions (ex. KKK masks). They'd never yell at you for not moving in a grocery store line "HOOOOOONK" if you didn't notice the line was moving (as in the light's green). They'd say "Excuse me" or something sweet. Not that I want people to yell at me in supermarkets, but if you're gonna have the nuts to yell at me while you're safe in your pansy car then have the decency to yell at me in my face too.

In Puerto Rico tit's informed me people don't honk at risk of being shot. I THINK THATS GREAT! That's what we need, a few gov't paid thugs that go around driving poorly until someone beeps them. Then they shoot them. See who honks then? We'll have all the honkers killed off. To make it better, the guns'll be attached to the horn of the car, so when the thugs honk it'll be the last thing the mutherfuckers hear. Exxxxxxxcellent

I rarely honk at people. I only do it when the lights been green for a while and the motherfucker in front of me is still reading his paper. I mean, he may not have to be somewhere (like work), but that doesn't mean I have to the time to watch him read his paper either.

But yeah, honking for no reason whatsoever is bullshit.

I believe the brothers have a term for this. They call them "honkies".

Crono, take your idea of "excuse me" at the grocer and consider that it is just the abruptness and apparent rudeness that you find offensive with the honkies. If you really think about it, the only thing that is different between the two intrusions is how you respond to it. All you have to do is condition yourself to believe that all those middle fingers and horns are just some insecure people trying to say "hey, hi there, you are relevant to me, be careful and don't get yourself hurt bro". Irrespective to what some want to believe, when you get right down to it, it really is just a class thing and how you respond to it shows what class you are in.

When you are driving on the west coast it also helps to get the bumper sticker off the ass of your car that says "honk if you are heterophopic".

-OD

Ive given a million tickets to these kinda drivers. Ive even had them honk at the squad car cause they thought I was going to slow. My advice? Dont be either a honker or a honkee that gets upset. Dont let other people push your buttons. Lifes to short to allow the A-holes in the world to get your blood pressure up. Is it really that hard to be nice to people ?

When Im in my PVT auto and these boneheads pull traffic crap on me I just smile and wave at them. Even still in my career Ive had a few lunatic drivers pull some stunts on me that resulted in them looking down the business end of a .45 . But generaly I avoid these imbeciles like the Bubonic Plauge..............take care...............Rich

well stay off SR 200 where all the old folks live and all the fast food places are (yes thats SR 200 in Ocala)

I am a non-honker, even in times of crisis (such as someone trying to lane-change into me on the 401 at 150 klicks without warning).

This is, however, largely because my previous alleged car was honk-impaired (the "car" part was pretty much a non-functional rusted shell enclosing a decent engine and four wheels) and I now forget that I actually have a working horn these days.

I particularly hate people who honk at me when, God forbid, I do not spring like a jackrabbit pursued by hounds through the light the instant it turns green.

I honk. Traffic would be much better if you people would put your damn phone down and go when the light changes, etc.

I use the horn to say "Hey, moron, time to go!"

If you don't like hearing horns, learn to drive.

What I particularly hate is when the first car turning left is in no particular hurry to turn. Sure, he has it, he will not miss the light. However, behind him, someone is going to pay for his slowness.

Light turns green, you go. Any questions?

I despise light runners though. Light turns yellow, you slow down.

I get honked at when I'm not driving

Originally posted by OceanDude
there, you are relevant to me, be careful and don't get yourself hurt bro". Irrespective to what some want to believe, when you get right down to it, it really is just a class thing and how you respond to it shows what class you are in.-OD

I disagree with you here, OD. My reason for being uptight, for lack of a better word, is the inefficiency of some drivers. They are the ones being rude. They have no respect for the people behind them.

I see it all the time. Drivers who care nothing about other drivers. They block the box when the light turns red. They are slow off the green light when traffic is backed up. They squat in the left lane.

I don't honk to be rude and I rarely, if ever, use the middle finger, but if you are slowing things down for no good reason, you should be nudged. If you have a flat tire or something...totally different story.

Friday I was rolling by this mini mall type of things in this kinda redneck part of the city, on the outskirts. Anyways I'm in the left lane knowing that the right lane is going to disappear shortly, like in 100 feet. This person is along side of me and there's another person in front of me so ths guy next to me can't merge in. Anyways I just maintain my speed and this person has to slow down and go in behind me when the lane disappears, and they give me this realy pissed off look. It's this trashy lookin' blonde at the wheel with her 120 pound kid rock wanna be redneck boyfriend. Anyways they get right on my ass and start flipping me off left and right and shouting at me in their car and shit. I just calmly laugh and reach under my passenger seat for one of those extendible police batons, the metal ones with the metal tips that some cops carry, in case they decide they wanna do something about it. Anyways, I think they saw me reach down because they promptly slowed down and got off my bumper and stopped the obscenity. Pretty funny. The one group I hate is middle aged men who think they're tough guys in 15 year old Ford F250's with jacked up suspensions that drive five under the speed limit after pulling out in front of you in heavy traffic during rush hour and speed up and flip you off when you try to pass them. Makes me wanna jump out of my car and dare those guys to call me "son"

Oh yeah and BTW they rated Illinois and wisconsin I tihnk it was like the two worst states for drivers. And then a differnt study rated my city one of the worst in Illinois I think based on traffic accidents per driver or something. Needless to say, lots of people here can't drive for shit.

Sux for you guys, luckily I don’t have that problem where I live or maybe I just don’t even notice it. Ahh hold on, my car is so loud you can’t hear anything else, yeah that’s it

how about guys that pass you when you're going the speed limit (or faster) and then start going the same speed you were going.

and I understand Pepper's point, but sometimes there's just no particular place you have to be, it's just an primal anger, not a rational one. If you're late for something, then that's your fault not theirs. If there's an emergency, then have your emergency lights on and honk all the way to the destination, then people will get the point.

Plus, u have to assume that maybe the person not turning left at that green light may be new to driving or maybe not having good eyesight, or admittedly a bad driver trying to get better. I would rather them not take the risk and instead go through unnessisary precautions, even if it costs me another 30 seconds, than they have an accident. Even if you don't give a rat's ass about their safety, if they have an accident, you're gonna be cooped up there for much longer.

Originally posted by Mike51
well stay off SR 200 where all the old folks live and all the fast food places are (yes thats SR 200 in Ocala)

I think that's where I actually was There was nothing but old people there. Right off of I75, there was a Goodwill and we ate at Denny's.

nope you were on silver springs blvd not 200 if you ate at denny's ..... if there was a big pink hilton right off 75 then that was 200 (gald you injoyed your stay)

you know what, that's right it was silversprings. I remember that well now. Very grumpy people

at Denny's a woman, apparently a manager, was fussing very loudly at the cooks. She went around yelling rudely at every little nitpick she could find. She pointed at some food and said "You know what this is? Garbage!"

Apparently the dude had left some butter out too long. I was like, take it out of his paycheck, but don't disrespect the guy. And I've worked in retail enough to know that if you're gonna correct an employee, you do it away from the customers. Made me sick.

Plus, the cook was a black guy, and Denny's already got a bad reputation for being prejudice.

but um, that's a different topic altogether. So, honkers right? don't they suck

Originally posted by Pepper
I disagree with you here, OD. My reason for being uptight, for lack of a better word, is the inefficiency of some drivers. They are the ones being rude. They have no respect for the people behind them.

I see it all the time. Drivers who care nothing about other drivers. They block the box when the light turns red. They are slow off the green light when traffic is backed up. They squat in the left lane.

I don't honk to be rude and I rarely, if ever, use the middle finger, but if you are slowing things down for no good reason, you should be nudged. If you have a flat tire or something...totally different story.

Pepper, I am not completely immune to the anger either. But there was a situation or two I got caught up years ago that forced me to think it through since it could have been a life or death situation if I had let it escalate.

In situation #1 I was pulling out of the church parking lot on a Sunday. This road is coming down hill and you have to stop at a stop sign at a very bad location where the highway bends around and there is a huge blind spot. Well, I am all relaxed and feeling good about life and I have to nudge out past the stop sign to be able to see if it is clear to proceed. My foot actually slipped off the clutch and I lurched forward just in time to see a utility van (open doors) come barreling down on me way over the speed limit. I could not get back up the hill without risking going further forward with the clutch so I just put the brakes on and sat there with the nose of the car maybe 1 foot into the lane. The other lane is completely clear and it would be easy for this person to avoid me (35 mph zone). So this guy swerves at me on purpose (must have been the wrong denomination of church or something) rather than get into the next lane. He is a redneck type, with no shirt, unshaven and mean looking. He gives me the finger and screams all manner of obscenities at me as he passes. I am dumbfounded. So I pull into traffic after he passes and meet up with him at the traffic light a few blocks down the road. I roll down my window and try to apologize to him and actually drift at low speed into his lane slightly at the traffic light. He thinks I am trying to cut him off and then cursing like a lunatic and starts chasing me when the traffic light turns green. In my mirror I see him give an evil grin and reach for something next to him. I suspected that he was going to throw something through my window as he is passing and as poor luck would have it the next light turns red and I am trapped. So being a law abiding person I slow down for the light knowing full well that this guy is deranged and is going to try to hurt me but I have to take my chances that he won’t lose it. Sure enough I see him get ready to throw something as we approach the light and I slam on the brakes at the last sec to try to get him to overshoot and miss me. He heaves a VW cylinder (about 3 lbs of steel) at me with all his might and it just misses my window and slams into the door pillar with a sickening metallic crunch. He then jumps out of the van while it is still moving to come after me while I am now stopped. At this point I am outraged and when I see he is some small whimpy guy I am ready to take him apart since this is now a deadly encounter and he just severely damaged my first car ever (bought it used after a year of savings and bumming rides). I completely lost it when he ran in front of my car and tried to block me. I just put it in 2nd gear and floored the accelerator and was going to run him over right there. As I saw his eyes as big as saucers and his face turn white I suddenly regain my senses and realize I am about to commit murder so I swerve at the last instant to miss him and then left the scene. That scared me bad. I replayed the event over and over and was unable to cope with how such a peaceful day could turn to hell so quickly. I made conscious efforts to not ever let that happen again.

Then event #2 happened about 6 months later. I am driving on the interstate on my way to work at 85 mph (10 mph over the limit) in the left lane. A fast approaching car comes up going at least 110 mph and is sitting 2 inches off my bumper giving me the flashing headlights and horn. I am startled. I look in the rear view mirror to see some fat woman screaming and hollering and giving me the finger. The other lane is blocked and I can not safely get out of the way for about another ½ mile. So she decides she is going to pass me anyway on the left! She goes into the grass median and is fishtailing and kicking up gravel, debris and dirt onto my car and I give her the middle finger. She then pulls in front of me and slams the brakes on about 15 feet in front of my bumper and her car is almost up on the front 2 tires as the rear end lifts up. It just so happens this time I was carrying a concealed weapon and a collapsible ASP baton in my center console. I just about had a major accident and narrowly avoided a massive chain reaction pileup by swerving partially into the right hand lane (all at 85 mph) and she comes to a complete stop in the middle of the interstate to prove a point. I came to a stop on the side of the road, drew my weapon and was going to turn her brains into mash potatoes with +p+ 9mm hollow points for attempting to kill me and about 3 other cars and people. I am so angry and adrenaline rushed that I am physically shaking. Once again, I came to my senses just as I was going for the door handle. I then re-holstered and left the scene.

After these 2 incidents I did some serious soul searching and never again permitted myself to carry a concealed gun in the car and never even look at someone when they do something malicious or try to provoke anything. There are probably at least 2 people since then that did similar unprovoked things and would be dead today if I had not consciously decided to not respond to the other person. And my life would have been over since I would have been in jail too.

It was a life changing thing for me.

Bottom line - you can't change a person's behavior by responding to them on their terms.

-OD

"""""""I just calmly laugh and reach under my passenger seat for one of those extendible police batons, the metal ones with the metal tips that some cops carry, in case they decide they wanna do something about it."""""""""

Born in '87? I thought he was a child last time he responded to me. I have a little road rage story to share with you here. This happened in my 2nd year of being a Policeman, somewheres around 1985, "2 years before 1987".

I had a fast sharp mustang GT, a black one. I was driving home from court one day not really speeding much but kinda running it. This car sped in front of me and slammed his brakes on forceing me to do the same. Im thinking, "whats this guys problem"? He did it to me again, and yet again. Finnaly he did it for the last time. This time forceing me to a stop, at which time he jumped out of his car with a baseball bat and came at me on the street.

I leveled a .357 magnum at him and announced my office. He kept coming and as I readied to squeeze one into his center mass I saw movement in the rear window of his auto. It was a 6yo little girl looking out the window! For the first and only time I gave an offender like this a chance and squeezed one into the air instead, the sound of the magnum going off making the offender shit his pants and drop the bat. I cuffed him and called the on-duty police to take him. The whole time wondering why this lunatic would pull such a stunt with a child, turned out to be his daughter, in the back of the car. Why he would pull it anyway?

At the station the guy fessed up. He just didnt like seeing a white guy with such a sharp car running around his neighborhood. I hadnt cut him off or nothing. He just didnt like whitey buzzing his neighborhood, and he thought it was a fake gun I had until he heard it go off. The offender turned out to be an OK guy. He had a job, didnt have much of a record, and loved his daughter. He was no gansta or nothing. He was just "having a bad day". But by the time I left he knew the only reason he was still alive is because that particular day I didnt feel like killing him in front of his daughter. Tho I would have before I got hit with a baseball bat.

This roadrage is some bad news stuff. Avoid it if at all possible. YaKnow where I first saw that smile and wave thing? Many years ago a guy cut me off in traffic. I had been having "a bad day "and yelled something at him, at which time, the guy just smiled and waved at me. I started feeling a little sheepish about what I did, obviously the guy didnt mean to cut me off. At the next light I rolled my window down and apologized to him. He said "no problem", and we went on with our day, feeling a little better about humanity its ownself. Ever since then I just smile and wave at honkers/roadragers.

When you master the iron you are also mastering both your body and your mind. We are above showing hostility to others while driving autos. And should we see one of these escapades in progress its our duty to call 911 and report it.

I have one more "escapade" to tell you about. I was driving home from hunting once, oh about 1990 when RCfootball was 2yo, when I saw two guys being beat to a pulp by 4 others with sticks and bats on the street. I didnt have a cell phone at the time "to expensive" and didnt have time to dial 911,"these guys would have been dead by the time the on-duty police arrived". So I did the only thing I could do, I jumped out with my puny .38 snub and my bird dog. I put the .38 to an offenders ear while my dog held off the others, and the crowd.

Luckily someone had gotten to a phone. The others fled by the time the Police arrived but I still had one,"who gave up the others". The 2 victims had bad injuries tho they lived and recovered and the whole thing was over a minor car accident.

Is a car accident, or being honked at/cut off, really worth a fight? Is it worth even just being rude to another human being? C'mon, we are all better then that. Ive handled cases like this when someone just flipping the finger in traffic ended up in a shooting. It aint worth it!............take care...........................Rich

Originally posted by Rich46yo
"""""""I just calmly laugh and reach under my passenger seat for one of those extendible police batons, the metal ones with the metal tips that some cops carry, in case they decide they wanna do something about it."""""""""

Born in '87? I thought he was a child last time he responded to me. I have a little road rage story to share with you here. This happened in my 2nd year of being a Policeman, somewheres around 1985, "2 years before 1987".


I have one more "escapade" to tell you about. I was driving home from hunting once, oh about 1990 when RCfootball was 2yo,

Fuck you pops. Why'd you become a cop? Wanted to be a tough guy with a gun, but didn't wanna join a gang and pick on people your own size? So you became a pig so you can steal bowls and 'dro from teenagers, or pull out the slim jim and help old ladies that locked themselves out of their cars? Hey, I'm typing this in, oh, 2004, when Rich became elligible for social security and started eating the apple sauce the nice little nurse gave him. Watch out everyone, Rich is a hard-ass.

RC your a silly child. Dont feel bad , we all were. Tho most of us grew out of it by 8yo............take care.........Rich

Originally posted by maniclion
Today this ho came up hard on my ass in the right lane, I was already 10 MPH over the limit and her face showed she was upset. I slow down to the speed limit and she went nuts, then my exit came so I signalled and eased over, she tried to rush passed me and exit w/ no signal so I dropped it to 3rd and floored it past her. She was fuming in my rear view and then I saw the light ahead turn yellow, I could have made it and she could have made it but I decided yellow meant stop. When the light turned green I floored it and watch the expression on her face "Like omg, now he wants to be in a rush." The reason was I knew that the next light turns red really quick so I made and she didn't. I have too much fun with these spazoids.

I love doing stuff like this to dickhead drivers. Another thing to do when people honk the horn at you is to blow them a kiss. Nothing pisses them off more