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    Brotherhood we call the Marine Corps.

    I didn't know where else to post this, and assumed this would probably be the best place to post. I'm not real sure whether I want to go to USNA for officer training or just enlist straight up out of highschool. I'll try to make it into annapolis, but if not then I'm just enlisting. But I was curious, do any of you fellas, or ladies, know what the physical strength test for the marines is? I would like to be able to do this and then some before I go in, that way I know what to expect as well. And to all of you Marines, Semper Fidelis, "First ones in, last to know." Thank you for securing my freedoms, and I hope to be joining you soon.
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    For a perfect PFT 300 points you must have a 3 mile run in under 18 minutes, 100 crunches in 2 minutes, and 20 pullups, without kipping. If you wanna be an officer you're gonna want to be close to those stats. I think they have to run the same PFT as those who indoc into Force Recon, like a 275 I think, 300 is perfect, maybe you only need a 1st class which is 225 points. But as far as enlisted PFT bare minimums, you need your 3 mile run in under 28 minutes, 46 or 48 crunches, and 3 pullups, that would be a low third class PFT, about 180 points I think. Each pullup is worth 6 points, each crunch is worth 1 point, and I think the run time is every 6 seconds over 18 minutes you lose a point. Crunches are easy cuz you can cheat, pullups you can cheat depending who's watching you, but some guys make you go all the way up til your neck hits the bar and then lock out your arms completely at the bottom. The run is impossible to cheat on, it kills my perfect PFt every time I usually end up with about a 20:30-22:00 time, if you have an opportunity to join the cross country team at your school it might be a good idea to look into that. If you get the opportunity to go to annapolis take it by all means. But us enlisted cats, respect an officer that comes through the enlisted ranks, and gets his degree while enlisted and then goes through OCS, my current CO is a mustang. Either way good luck, OCS is physical hell and Boot Camp is mor mental hell, preparing yourself physically will help you immensly either way you choose, don't bother preparing mentally, it's impossible, you'll adjust shortly after you get there.
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    Thank you. now I can do the run I think, for being a fat kid I'm damn good at distance, I can run a 6 minute mile. as for pull ups, I can't do pull ups worth a poop, because mainly, I weigh 230lbs and am at about 18%bf. It sucks cus I'm not allowed below 215 for my football season, and I really want to get up to 250, but I won't make that happen, because highschool sports don't really matter in life. As for crunches, no problem. and yeah, working your way up and becoming an officer after you enlist does seem more honorable and respectable. So I might just try that.
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    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.. (1868)"
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    eltombo, I admire your zeal. I signed up for Navy OCS out of college. Did my active duty time and am still an active reservist. I have seen most of the world in the last 18 years. Good luck on Annapolis. There are lots of options, enlisted for a time then look into a commission. College on ROTC or college and then OCS. I chose college and then OCS. I wanted to keep my long, flowing Jim Morrison-like hair for a little longer so I waited. Now that I am balding it doesn't matter, so I have a nice "high and tight". I will say, as I look back, it is the best thing I could have done. And I had some pressure from family not to do it. It is awesome to be a part of something that is larger than you are. Pres Reagan played a big role in me signing up when I did. That is why I stood in line four hours from 0200 to 0600 this week to pay my respects in the Rotunda. And one other thing, people often tell me they admire my patriotism, and that is part of it. But bottom line, it is a ton of fun if you like the life style. I had a Marine gunney tell me one time, "Ensign, if this stuff doesn't give you a har$-on, you are in the wrong f'ing business"

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    U.S. Air Force requirements:

    Ability to sit stationary for at least two hours.

    Ability to sit in chair with feet on desk, balance chair on two rear legs and still be able to read newspaper.

    Ability to drink at least half a pot of coffee before noon.

    Donuts? If it's not at least a dozen don't even talk to me.

    Ability to sprint to restroom and back to your desk without spilling any of the aforementioned coffee.

    Ability to sleep with eyes open and NOT drool all over yourself.

    Ability to harrass ex-jarheads (like Pitboss) mercilessly. (I got a ribbon for this one. )

    It took a lot of training and self sacrifice, but I managed to ace this entire test.

    On a serious note: Great job eltombo. It's good to hear there's still some of the next generation that has the pride and courage to do what needs to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB
    U.S. Air Force requirements:

    Donuts? If it's not at least a dozen don't even talk to me.

    Does it matter which brand? I can hit 12 Dunkin Donuts, but Krispy Kremes are too hearty for 12. I like them better than dunkin donuts, though.


    The Marine test I would only get like 16 on the pull ups, everything else I could max.

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    yeah my generation angers the crap out of me. with their sex and drugs, boozing and generally not caring about their life or others' lives. I just want to punch them all in the face. Thanks for the help, and even more for the compliments! I'm thinking I might enlist and work my way up, because that's always been my dream. Played too many video games where you start as a nobody and become the greatest hero to ever live when I was younger. Hit me deep ya know. On that note, I can't wait til Fable comes out in august, its going to be badass.
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    Oh please! If I had a dollar for every person that wants to punch me in the face..........
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    I would try to get into the academy first, you can always enlist later if it does not work out. They will always be there, and you can apply for officer programs after you get in. I am in the navy right now and it is always better to be an officer. Try not to get brainwashed in boot though, you might become an asshole. Then again marines usually are, damn I hate marines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odin52
    I would try to get into the academy first, you can always enlist later if it does not work out. They will always be there, and you can apply for officer programs after you get in. I am in the navy right now and it is always better to be an officer. Try not to get brainwashed in boot though, you might become an asshole. Then again marines usually are, damn I hate marines.
    I completely agree. Starting at the bottom and working your way up certainly has it's merits, but why eat more shit than you have to. Aim for the stars, even if you miss you still get the moon.

    P.S. Yeah the drugs are out, but don't knock the sex and boozing. That still exists in the services.........................................y ou just get to do it with a better class of people.
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    lol I'm talking about dumbass kids, like teenagers that don't do it intelligently. or then again anybody who doesn't do it intelligently. And I've never been one for sleeping around, I'm a little old fasioned. But as for every marine being an ass hole. Its only because they KNOW they are part of the greatest fighting force on earth. and you f*cking EARN the right to be a marine. You go through hell and back to claim the eagle globe and anchor. "first to fight for right and freedom, and to keep our honor clean. we are proud to claim the title of the United States Marine."
    "My son, ask for thyself another kindom; for that which I leave is too small for thee." ~Philip of Macedonia

    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.. (1868)"
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    Eltombo,

    Here is a good reference for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltombo
    But as for every marine being an ass hole. Its only because they KNOW they are part of the greatest fighting force on earth. "
    Get out your ink sticks and right this down, I will give you your ELOs and TLOs on why Marines are assholes right now. First, we get up so damn early and half the time the wake us up 2 hours before we even do anything. Second, eating MRE's everyday for a year. But mostly I think it's just the other assholes I have to spend my day with, day in and day out. Oh and the lack of females might have something to do with it.Also, whatever your superiors tell you is going to happen will not happen ever, and that also ties into the hurry up and wait philosphy, where you will sprint across an entire base to stand in a three hour line to get a shot. Or the fact that the other services have a million wisecracks about us, and we are stuck around the Navy on ship 24/7. Remember it is your duty as a marine to make the lives of every sailor on every ship a living hell, we have to toughen them up somehow, or else they'd be like the air force, stay away from the master chiefs though, it's not wise to fuck with them even if you are an officer, same goes for sgt majors. That about sums up why most marines are assholes, but then I'm not counting the ones that are born that way.
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    I am not saying every marine is an asshole just 99.9999% of them. I actually enjoy the rivalry though. Being one of the few sailors on my base that can beat most marines in the gym is nice and always makes things competitive. The best part is they do the real military shit and we do the partying.

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    I know only 2 marines. One had some type of a issue with his seargeant and was discharged. The other, after like 20 years or so still thinks he is a Marine He still crushes beer cans on his forehead and quotes the terminology. Especially the one that goes "Once a Marine, always a Marine". If anyone mentions the word Gun, he immediately corrects you with the proper context. This is your gun, this is a weapon.

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    Thats the problem with a lot of kids nowdays. They never were yanked from mommies skirts at 18yo, had their heads shaved, and expected to stand on their own two feet, and to do it with honor. Most 25 to 30 yos nowdays still havnt figured out of their asses are punched or drilled. I see it on the police job. The padawans who consistantly have their heads and asses wired together are the kids that came out of stints in the military. They are more mature, more professional, wear a uniform better, know weapons better, and dont cry for mommie when the heat is on.

    Most of these college kids we get are pathetic, just pathetic.........take care.........Rich
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    The Army PT is a little different. We do 2 minutes of pushups, rest ten minutes, two minutes of sit-ups (feet held by another soldier, all the way up), rest ten, and then a two-mile run.

    Max is 300 points, 100 per event. Score depends on age and sex. For me (43 yr old male) max is around 70 pushups, 75 situps and 14 minute 2 mile. I max the pushups and situps pretty easily, but I'm getting slow in my middle age. Lately I've been a 15-16 minute man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I'm getting slow in my middle age. Lately I've been a 15-16 minute man.
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