Thread: Liberals are still in denial about John McCain

I agree with this, very desparate.

Anyone else heard the rumor that Cheney won't be the Veep nominee with GWB? I've heard very strong rumblings that it's gonna be Rudy Gulliani. Now wouldn't THAT throw an interesting twist into the '08 election if Billary does decide to run.

Albob..that's funny you mention that...my wife said after 9/11 that she thought Cheney would step aside for health reasons and the Rudy would bee the Veep.

She'll be obnoxious if that turns out to be true.

Interesting topic.

I've been hoping Cheney would have his 4th or 5th Big Banger and twitch and twaddle on the floor--hopefully on camera. I've still got my fingers crossed that it might happen though.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Interesting topic.

I've been hoping Cheney would have his 4th or 5th Big Banger and twitch and twaddle on the floor--hopefully on camera. I've still got my fingers crossed that it might happen though.

You are a real class act, Mr_Snafu. I feel sorry for you.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Anyone else heard the rumor that Cheney won't be the Veep nominee with GWB? I've heard very strong rumblings that it's gonna be Rudy Gulliani. Now wouldn't THAT throw an interesting twist into the '08 election if Billary does decide to run.

What would be interesting, entertainment-wise, is how the Censorship thing would be handled if this were to happen. Guliani is a big Stern supporter and if he did go with ole GW, I would love to see how that unfolds considering Stern was a huge backer of Rudy G.

I've obviously not tried to hide my bias toward GWB, and am probably looking at the whole issue through rose colored glasses, but I think GWB's involvement in the entire censorship issue was WAY overblown.

He def seems to be more of a puppet re: the issue. I think it will all blow over anyway, but who knows.

Originally Posted by Pepper

She'll be obnoxious if that turns out to be true.

Not any more than she already is!

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Anyone else heard the rumor that Cheney won't be the Veep nominee with GWB? I've heard very strong rumblings that it's gonna be Rudy Gulliani. Now wouldn't THAT throw an interesting twist into the '08 election if Billary does decide to run.

I doubt this will happen, but if it does, The liberals won't stand a chance at the white house. And for Billery, she would not run as she knows she wouldn't stand a chance..............as if she would anyway.

JOHN MACAIN is not a conservative AND NEITHER IS ANYONE ELSE who claims to be a conservative today !!!

they are ALL NEO-Conservatives.

I wanted McCain to win the pres nom when GW got it. McCain is the shit! I think he'd be a great vice pres and even better pres

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Interesting topic.

I've been hoping Cheney would have his 4th or 5th Big Banger and twitch and twaddle on the floor--hopefully on camera. I've still got my fingers crossed that it might happen though.

Mr Snafu has shown his true colors, which have actually always been apparent to me. He hates Bush and Cheney, and wants them out even if it is bad for America. For example I'll bet Mr S would hate for us to find Bin Laden, for the new Iraqi government to be successful or for the economy to continue improving. Although all of these things are great for the US, it would mean bad news for liberals who can't stand having Bush as president.

Mr Snafu, I'd recommend moving to Canada because it is only going to get worse for you over the next 4 years.

I like Dick Cheney and I hope he finishes the second term. He has been the most effective VP ever. I remember a lot of folks were confused when Bush chose him because his name on the ticket wouldn't help Bush get elected (not many electoral votes in Wyoming). Bush showed great foresight I thought when he said he chose a VP who would help him govern effectively, not one who would help him get elected. Theirs is a CEO/COO relationship and it works.

If Cheney can't finish term 2 I would like to see Chuck Hagel or Zell Miller step in and then run for prez in 2008.

Originally Posted by Pepper

You are a real class act, Mr_Snafu. I feel sorry for you.

I'm semi-retired at 34.

Do you really feel sorry for me? Or are you envious?

I am surrounded by white sand beaches, year 'round warm weather, good food, and beautiful women.

How about you? South Carolina is a humid armpit.

Originally Posted by austinite

Mr Snafu has shown his true colors, which have actually always been apparent to me. He hates Bush and Cheney, and wants them out even if it is bad for America.

If Bush and Cheney were good for America in my opinion, I would want them to stay in power. Obviously I do not. You have made an assumption, and assumptions are the mothers of all f*ck-ups.

For example I'll bet Mr S would hate for us to find Bin Laden,

I never said that--ever. If I did (which I didn't) find the post, and quote me!
Amazing how you lie. I want to see Osama caught, tortured, disembered, and fed to the dogs.

for the new Iraqi government to be successful or for the economy to continue improving.

Again, where did I say that? Quote me, and post it, please.

Although all of these things are great for the US, it would mean bad news for iberals who can't stand having Bush as president.

Austinshite, I've told you several times that I am NOT a liberal, but a Libertarian, with far-right wing views on certain subjects, so get it through your head, will you??!! I hate repeating myself.

Mr Snafu, I'd recommend moving to Canada because it is only going to get worse for you over the next 4 years.

Canada is a socialist sh*thole, with bad weather. I live in South East Asia, you f*cking numb-nut.

Your memory is gone. Print this out and put it on your fridge.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

If Bush and Cheney were good for America in my opinion, I would want them to stay in power. Obviously I do not. You have made an assumption, and assumptions are the mothers of all f*ck-ups.

I never said that--ever. If I did (which I didn't) find the post, and quote me!
Amazing how you lie. I want to see Osama caught, tortured, disembered, and fed to the dogs.

Again, where did I say that? Quote me, and post it, please.

Austinshite, I've told you several times that I am NOT a liberal, but a Libertarian, with far-right wing views on certain subjects, so get it through your head, will you??!! I hate repeating myself.

Canada is a socialist sh*thole, with bad weather. I live in South East Asia, you f*cking numb-nut.

Your memory is gone. Print this out and put it on your fridge.

Bush and Cheney ARE good for America. That is not an assumption, but a fact.

I said "I'll bet" you think those things, so why do you characterize that as a lie?

If I had a nickel for every liberal who claims to be a libertarian I'd be able to purchase a beach condo in South Carolina, which by the way, is much nicer than SE Asia.

I'll admit I have committed very little about you to my memory, except that you are just another intolerant, defensive, Bush-hating liberal.

"""""""I doubt this will happen, but if it does, The liberals won't stand a chance at the white house. And for Billery, she would not run as she knows she wouldn't stand a chance..............as if she would anyway."""""""""

Not so fast. Woman make up 51% of the vote remember?...........take care................Rich

Bush and Cheney ARE good for America. That is not an assumption, but a fact.

a fact! really? I would love to see what statistics prove this.. ha ha, please.. Bush needs another term like I need a fuccin hole in the head. Nothing about that statement is factual bro. its all subjective

Austinite, I apologize for my harsh tone on the above post. I meant no disrespect to you. Sometimes when discussing politics, I run a little "hot."

Libertarians are however, quite different from liberals, as Libertarians are on the other end of the political spectrum.

Are you ready to joing the winning team? I think yo uare: www.libertarian.org.

Welcome.

Mr Snafu all's fair in love, war and politics. I understand libertarian ideology. I also understand that a libertarian will never be elected in the United States. Neither party is perfect obviously, but the GOP meets many libertarian objectives, and if I was a Libertarian, I would vote for Bush.

You seem more like a liberal than libertarian to me because you criticize everything about Bush with a passion. He is the most conservative president we've had since Reagan, arguably even more conservative than RR. He promotes conservatism and helps other conservatives get elected. In a second term he is likely to leave an even more conservative legacy (supreme court justice appts, tax cut, deregulation, etc).

Originally Posted by gr81

a fact! really? I would love to see what statistics prove this.. ha ha, please.. Bush needs another term like I need a fuccin hole in the head. Nothing about that statement is factual bro. its all subjective

If you think lower taxes, a powerful military and a strong economy are subjective, then you are correct, at least in your own mind.

Originally Posted by austinite

You seem more like a liberal than libertarian to me because you criticize everything about Bush with a passion. He is the most conservative president we've had since Reagan, arguably even more conservative than RR. He promotes conservatism and helps other conservatives get elected. In a second term he is likely to leave an even more conservative legacy (supreme court justice appts, tax cut, deregulation, etc).

Thank you for your understanding. I'm not a liberal and I think many conservatives hate Bush because:

1. He is a big spender, spending more money than Clinton.

2. Believe in BIG government in almost all spheres of life

3. Is a draft-dodging hypocrite who snorted cocaine yet increased the sentences for it.

4. He is dumber than sh*t.

Good day....

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Thank you for your understanding. I'm not a liberal and I think many conservatives hate Bush because:

1. He is a big spender, spending more money than Clinton.

2. Believe in BIG government in almost all spheres of life

3. Is a draft-dodging hypocrite who snorted cocaine yet increased the sentences for it.

4. He is dumber than sh*t.

Good day....

1. Only Congress can appropriate funds, but if Bush continues to cut taxes, the government will have less available to spend.

2. It would seem so, yes, except for the fact that cutting taxes reduces the power of government and he is a big tax cutter.

3. Your irrational hatred is showing. Neither of these claims are true, but are often thrown out by Bush-haters during weak moments.

4. Compared to who? He was admitted to Yale based on pedigree just as John Kerry and Al Gore were. He had a C average just as Gore did. While Gore dropped out of Divinity school, Bush got an MBA from Harvard (back before MBAs were "cool"). He successfully completed fighter pilot training, which if you don't know, is not for dummies. He defeated Gore in 3 debates. We'll see how he does against Kerry.

Do you think he's dumb because of the way he speaks and carries himself? You can read you own above post regarding the falacy of assumptions.

Cheney has done his part now we need to set up a new VP for the next election after this one. Cheney is not going to be electable as president either for health reasons or becuase he can't relate to anyone under 60. The Republicans need a new fresh face in the VP slot.

Rudy G would be an awesome running mate.

As for Hillary - it seems interesting to note that she actually seems to have matured into a semi-responsible adult since her term in NY. I don't think that Bill's ego would permit him to accept her to that position and HIllary just might now be a much better "man" than he ever was or could be. If she ran it would result in a pragmatic divorce from Billy to distance herself form the smut and the loss of face she has experienced. Liberal females think she was weak for not leaving Billy when he publicly soiled the office of the presidency, the marriage and the poster-girl liberated image that they were trying to paint with her as the tough chick in the white house. I am watching her very carefuly now since I am betting that her instincts for power will dominate her imported ideology and am expecting a radical departure or change. Now would't it be interesting if she suddenly switched parties and flip-flopped to the Republican side!

Maybe ol Arnold S. should run for VP...

-OD

Originally Posted by OceanDude

Cheney has done his part now we need to set up a new VP for the next election after this one. Cheney is not going to be electable as president either for health reasons or becuase he can't relate to anyone under 60. The Republicans need a new fresh face in the VP slot.

Dick Cheney I'm sure has no aspirations at all to be president. I think Jeb Bush is the heir apparent. A Jeb Bush/Rick Santorum ticket would be awesome. Who knows, maybe Colin Powell now has the "fire in the belly" to be president.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Austinite, I apologize for my harsh tone on the above post. I meant no disrespect to you. Sometimes when discussing politics, I run a little "hot."

Libertarians are however, quite different from liberals, as Libertarians are on the other end of the political spectrum.

Are you ready to joing the winning team? I think yo uare: www.libertarian.org.

Welcome.

I have always had much more in common with the libertarians.