As for helping the plants........well I think you're all so full of that which plants need most already, and you give of yourselves so freely (and frequently).
Relax, I think the plants can smell how much you care.![]()
Hey, to each his own.
Good luck man.![]()
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
As for helping the plants........well I think you're all so full of that which plants need most already, and you give of yourselves so freely (and frequently).
Relax, I think the plants can smell how much you care.![]()
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.


"Mmmmm, chlorophyll, sun food."
Wait but what if aliens are green because their skin is chlorophyll and they make their own food from sunlight and see our devouring of plants as savage.
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
That's right, they'll annialate our world, just you wait and see.Originally Posted by maniclion
"The First Rule of Fight Club is, You do not talk about Fight Club."
Damn tree-huggers!j/k
But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.
-N. Machiavelli
What if you eat these aliens, does that make you a vegetarian?Originally Posted by maniclion
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The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
Somehow I think it does.Originally Posted by MaxMirkin
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"The First Rule of Fight Club is, You do not talk about Fight Club."
Originally Posted by Sean0621
Where does this help the plants? Or does the end justify the means? :P
I'm not afraid of their "Flower Power"! (And that goes for both aliens and hippies.)
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
Animals taste good! Eat em.![]()
But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.
-N. Machiavelli
Humans are animals..............
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.


or you can just buy meat and poultry from free range farms and pay a slightly higher price...Originally Posted by maniclion
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
Originally Posted by MaxMirkin
Kind of wish I had a Jeffery Dommer quote to follow those up, but you get the idea..Originally Posted by Var
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I'm lucky my girlfriends grandfather is friends with a free-range farmer who gives him milk and eggs all of the time in exchange for orchids.Originally Posted by LAM
And these are real free-range not government standard free-range which means they only have to be allowed access to outside for a short period of time every day. His animals roam the property freely.
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
I was kind of thinking of a few human animal members of IM I'd like to taste.Originally Posted by Chain Link
(Unlike Cronno, all the ones I'm thinking of are FEmale.
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Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???


with some fava beans and a nice chianti. ffffff ffffff ffffffOriginally Posted by ALBOB
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
Originally Posted by ALBOB
Originally Posted by maniclion
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No thanks I use toilet paper.Originally Posted by Crono1000
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Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012


I haven't eaten meat in almost a year now, being that everyone in the family is now vegetarian it's been quite easy....
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
Manic watch a documentary called "Breakthrough" about raw diet. Eating food only when they are raw, no cooking.
Amazing film. I downloaded it a few months ago.


Um, this thread was started in '04....how long do years last on your planet?
Anyway, its funny that you bumped this thread back up...
I've been thinking about the same issues that prompted you to make the decision to change diet. We're killing ourselves with food.
So how has this (long term) change effected your training, etc.....other that its obvious effect on the space-time continuum?![]()


I dont even like pork, never did. Although sausage I am guilty of liking.
Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
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tit has been a vegetarian for over a year now, and since then my meat consumption has decreased considerably. Funny how attitudes change, makes it hard to commit to anything when you realize how quickly I can go from calling someone else a tree hugging hippy to being a long haired enviromentalist liberal


To explain I was an on again off again vegetarian for the past few years, I would end up eating chicken and fish again because my gf or her daughter would end up making some and it would look too good and I'd have to eat it. Now that they both have sworn off meat except for occasional seafood it's been much easier for me to stick to not eating meat. So for almost a year now I haven't eaten meat. I eat a lot of beans and cheese, the other day I had veggie chili, I do eat a lot of wild/brown rice dishes, pasta, and nachos lots of veggie nachos and of course salads with almost every meal. Now that I've gone so long without fish and chicken I don't even think about missing it or wishing I could eat it when I see a savory dish with one of them used.
I have told myself that if I end up in a situation where I am at a party or something similar and the host has mostly meat then I may have to eat it. This was the way Buddha approached the issue, he said that as long as you didn't have a hand in killing the animal and as long as the animal was not slaughtered in advance for your visit and only for your visit then it would be more acceptable to eat the meat than to make your host feel bad that they hadn't taken your vegetarian ways into consideration. I wouldn't want to do that to anyone unless they had asked prior to inviting me if I may need a special menu. The responsibilty would lie with me to be sure to remind the host otherwise that I don't eat meat. And if I did find myself in this predicament I would try to stick with my no mammals diet that I have mostly stuck to for the past 8 years, just fish and poultry.
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
not yet plucked as to slacken the seams
and drag down the features of age,
no folds or creases from unkempt wear
eyes of tranquilty, crystalline-beads
no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
Kudos manic, I have had similar feelings towards the animal part of the 'food chain'. I don't think nature has a lot to do with way that it works in the modern age.
Good luck to you with this.
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