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    Hey, to each his own.
    Good luck man.
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    As for helping the plants........well I think you're all so full of that which plants need most already, and you give of yourselves so freely (and frequently).
    Relax, I think the plants can smell how much you care.
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    "Mmmmm, chlorophyll, sun food."

    Wait but what if aliens are green because their skin is chlorophyll and they make their own food from sunlight and see our devouring of plants as savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion
    "Mmmmm, chlorophyll, sun food."

    Wait but what if aliens are green because their skin is chlorophyll and they make their own food from sunlight and see our devouring of plants as savage.
    That's right, they'll annialate our world, just you wait and see.
    "The First Rule of Fight Club is, You do not talk about Fight Club."

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    Damn tree-huggers! j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion
    Wait but what if aliens are green because their skin is chlorophyll and they make their own food from sunlight and see our devouring of plants as savage.
    What if you eat these aliens, does that make you a vegetarian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxMirkin
    What if you eat these aliens, does that make you a vegetarian?
    Somehow I think it does.
    "The First Rule of Fight Club is, You do not talk about Fight Club."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean0621
    That's right, they'll annialate our world, just you wait and see.
    Where does this help the plants? Or does the end justify the means? :P

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    I'm not afraid of their "Flower Power"! (And that goes for both aliens and hippies. )
    The lions sing and the hills take flight.
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    Animals taste good! Eat em.
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    Humans are animals..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion
    After 5 years of not eating pork, lamb, beef etc. (no mammals) I have decided to do away with the poultry and fish as well. I just started thinking about how they treat these animals, the antibiotics and hormones they inject into them and the conditions they are kept in alive and dead. I realized that unless you hunt it yourself its just not fair to these animals to raise them for slaughter.

    I know you folks don't want to hear it, but if you do it in baby steps it's not very hard. Try cutting out pork first, usually the easiest. Why pork, because pigs are smarter than dogs and if you have ever seen someone with a pet pig you would see how that they have emotions too. The things they do to them in captivity is bad. They take the piglets from the mother at an early age and without any pain medicine, they cut off their tail, rip cut out 8 teeth to the gumline, put a hole in the ear for numbering, and rip off their testicles. Many of them are killed by being picked up and slammed on the ground repeatedly until they die. Also they get killed by being hung upside down and have their thoats slit, you can hear them scream as the blood flows out of them, it's horrible.

    You then quit the beef, then eventually the chicken and fish.

    I'm not a hippie so fuck you(just in case). I'm just an awakened soul realizing my surroundings and maturing intellectually. Maturity the ability to empathize not just with humans but animals as well.
    or you can just buy meat and poultry from free range farms and pay a slightly higher price...
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxMirkin
    Humans are animals..............
    Quote Originally Posted by Var
    Animals taste good! Eat em.
    Kind of wish I had a Jeffery Dommer quote to follow those up, but you get the idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    or you can just buy meat and poultry from free range farms and pay a slightly higher price...
    I'm lucky my girlfriends grandfather is friends with a free-range farmer who gives him milk and eggs all of the time in exchange for orchids.

    And these are real free-range not government standard free-range which means they only have to be allowed access to outside for a short period of time every day. His animals roam the property freely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain Link
    Kind of wish I had a Jeffery Dommer quote to follow those up, but you get the idea..
    I was kind of thinking of a few human animal members of IM I'd like to taste. (Unlike Cronno, all the ones I'm thinking of are FEmale. )
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB
    I was kind of thinking of a few human animal members of IM I'd like to taste. (Unlike Cronno, all the ones I'm thinking of are FEmale. )
    with some fava beans and a nice chianti. ffffff ffffff ffffff
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB
    I was kind of thinking of a few human animal members of IM I'd like to taste. (Unlike Cronno, all the ones I'm thinking of are FEmale. )
    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion
    with some fava beans and a nice chianti. ffffff ffffff ffffff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crono1000
    No thanks I use toilet paper.
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    I haven't eaten meat in almost a year now, being that everyone in the family is now vegetarian it's been quite easy....
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    Manic watch a documentary called "Breakthrough" about raw diet. Eating food only when they are raw, no cooking.

    Amazing film. I downloaded it a few months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    I haven't eaten meat in almost a year now, being that everyone in the family is now vegetarian it's been quite easy....
    Um, this thread was started in '04....how long do years last on your planet?


    Anyway, its funny that you bumped this thread back up...

    I've been thinking about the same issues that prompted you to make the decision to change diet. We're killing ourselves with food.

    So how has this (long term) change effected your training, etc.....other that its obvious effect on the space-time continuum?

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    I dont even like pork, never did. Although sausage I am guilty of liking.
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    tit has been a vegetarian for over a year now, and since then my meat consumption has decreased considerably. Funny how attitudes change, makes it hard to commit to anything when you realize how quickly I can go from calling someone else a tree hugging hippy to being a long haired enviromentalist liberal

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    To explain I was an on again off again vegetarian for the past few years, I would end up eating chicken and fish again because my gf or her daughter would end up making some and it would look too good and I'd have to eat it. Now that they both have sworn off meat except for occasional seafood it's been much easier for me to stick to not eating meat. So for almost a year now I haven't eaten meat. I eat a lot of beans and cheese, the other day I had veggie chili, I do eat a lot of wild/brown rice dishes, pasta, and nachos lots of veggie nachos and of course salads with almost every meal. Now that I've gone so long without fish and chicken I don't even think about missing it or wishing I could eat it when I see a savory dish with one of them used.

    I have told myself that if I end up in a situation where I am at a party or something similar and the host has mostly meat then I may have to eat it. This was the way Buddha approached the issue, he said that as long as you didn't have a hand in killing the animal and as long as the animal was not slaughtered in advance for your visit and only for your visit then it would be more acceptable to eat the meat than to make your host feel bad that they hadn't taken your vegetarian ways into consideration. I wouldn't want to do that to anyone unless they had asked prior to inviting me if I may need a special menu. The responsibilty would lie with me to be sure to remind the host otherwise that I don't eat meat. And if I did find myself in this predicament I would try to stick with my no mammals diet that I have mostly stuck to for the past 8 years, just fish and poultry.
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    Kudos manic, I have had similar feelings towards the animal part of the 'food chain'. I don't think nature has a lot to do with way that it works in the modern age.

    Good luck to you with this.

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