Johnnny

I'm going to see it tonight with a bunch of ppl & I'm looking forward to it.

I loved the Bourne Identity great action, acting & plot.

Plus that was a great car chase I'm expecting the same scenarios in this picture.

Monolith

I liked it more than the first one. IMO the second movie's car chase scenes are far superior to the first one.

The only thing i dont like is that he gets a little goodie-two-shoes at parts, which is always a bad thing when youre talking about a trained killer.

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Luke9583

Heard it was awesome, and has an amazing car chase.... see Napolean Dynomyte instead LMAO!!!!

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Jeeper

I liked the first one a lot better. I really hate the type of filming where the camera moves more than the actors do. It is really irriatating to me to see nothing but a big blur during a fight scene the whole time. It was still a really good movie though.

Larva

i agree with monolith 100% . its exactly how i feel abou tthe movie

Johnnny

Monolith

That's what I've heard as well that it's just as good as the first one if not better.

But that's okay he gets a little soft, remeber at the end of Rambo 3 when they admitted they were getting soft? LOL

Luke9583

Yeah that's what ppl tell me & we're looking forward to it.

Jeeper

Well we will all have our own opinions on such things.

I will have to find out for myself tonight & I'll be able to comment.

Sapphire

I really liked it!! great action!!!

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MaxMirkin

I'm torn between seeing this or "the Village" this weekend.

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Sapphire

That's good to hear.

Hey how'd you get that smiley to work? None of them work for me & they did just the other day?

MaxMirkin

The Village really isn't my type of movie so I'd go with The Bourne Supremacy. But if you're into the Village, than you may want to see that.

For us Tuesdays & Wednesdays is half price at $5 a ticket so sometimes I go during the week & on the weekend depending on whats playing.

But I've been waiting for the Bourne Supremacy for awhile

BigKev75

It was a great Movie. Nice action, GREAT car chase, and yes he got a little soft.

Monolith

Damn the movie exec's for making Bourne soft just to try and pull in female $$.

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PreMier

I was wodering the same thing... I wanted to see that CIA lady's head explode like a watermelon dropped from a 10 story building. I cant believe he didnt shoot!

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myCATpowerlifts

mah friend said it was good but he liked the first one better

aggies1ut

I saw it on the day it opened. I personally thought Supremacy was just a lil bette than Identity, but both are good.

Johnnny

Sorry for not responding as I haven't been online as often as I was busier this week.


The Bourne Supremacy was very good. Lots of action.

The one thing that really pissed me off about the movie was that they killed
off Jason Bourne's (really David Webb I believe) love Maria from the first movie.

That really pissed me off & was disappointing, they should've let Maria live & either go on the adventure with him, or meet up with him at the end of the movie in New York.

But all in all a good movie. A couple of you mentioned that you didn't like the camera moving so fast that you couldn't see what was going on.

I agree with that at some points they could've slowed the camera down a bit especially during that fight scene in the apartment.

As for getting soft? I don't think he got soft, I just don't think there was AS much hardcore action as in The Bourne Identity.

Do any of you know if there was a book The Bourne Supremacy? As The Bourne Identity was made from an old book.

I'm sure they will make another one in a couple of years. I thought he was going to end up with Nikki I believe from the first one who he encountered in the street car & subway.

But definetely a buyer.

Eggs

Hrmmm, well I think one has to base the movie characters actions on the book series. If I recall, it was a trained killer that lost his memory. So when he acted, it wasnt always as a trained killer. So he acted as any person might... but then the trained killer instinct kicked in when he needed it. Robert Ludlum was an excellent author, I loved his works. Too bad he died, I would have liked to read more of his material

Eggs

Here are the books he has written and the dates they were published:

The Scarlatti Inheritance, 1971 - Scarlatti
The Osterman Weekend, 1972 - Verinen viikonloppu - film 1983, dir. by Sam Peckinpah, starring Rutger Hauger, John Hurt, Burt Lancaster
Trevayne, 1973 (as Jonathan Ryder, as Robert Ludlum in 1989)
The Rhinemann Exchange, 1974 - Pahan kauppamiehet - NBC television miniseries in 1977
The Cry of the Halidon, 1974 (as Jonathan Ryder)
The Road to Gandolfo, 1975 (as Michael Shepherd) - Marssi Roomaan ja Omahaan
The Gemini Contenders, 1976
The Chancellor Manuscript, 1977 - Vastaisku / Medusan isku
The Holcroft Convenant, 1978 - Verirahat - film 1985, dir. by John Frankenheimer, starring Michael Caine, Anthony Andrews, Victoria Tennant, Lilli Palmer
The Matarese Circle, 1979 - Mataresen merkki
The Bourne Identity, 1980 - Medusan verkko - television film 1988; film 2002, directed by Doug Liman, starring Matt Damon, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Franka Potente, Julia Stiles
The Parsifal Mosaic, 1982 - Paholaisen mosaiikki
The Aquitaine Progression, 1984 - Salaliitto
The Bourne Supremacy, 1986 - Medusan isku
The Matlock Paper, 1987 - Omertan laki
The Icarus Agenda, 1988 - Salainen Ikaros
The Bourne Ultimatum, 1990 - Meduusan sinetti
The Road to Omaha, 1992 - Marssi Roomaan ja Omahaan
The Scorpio Illusion, 1993 - Skorpioiden seitti
The Robert Ludlum Companion, 1993 (ed. by Martin H. Greenberg)
The Apocalypse Watch, 1995 - Tuhon veljeskunta
The Matarese Countdown, 1997 - Mataresen tuho
The Hades Factor, 2000 (with Gayle Lynds - Covert One Series)
The Prometheus Deception, 2000 - Valonkantaja
The Janson Directive, 2000

Taken from: http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/ludlum.htm

KataMaStEr

I saw it today, good movie but I can’t really say which is better between the two parts. I liked them both

Johnnny

Eggs

Thanks for that list.

After the Bourne Identity came out I bought the book by him & loved it.

Does anyone know if in the 1986 Bourne Supremacy book Jason Bourne's girlfriend Maria was killed in the book as well as the movie?


Does anyone else feel that it was wrong to kill off Maria his loving girlfriend?

For some reason it just majorly pisses me off & I can't get over it.

I loved seeing the 2 of them together living together & being together after all that had gone on in The Bourne Identity.

It really made me sad & angry that they decided to kill her off to. I also liked her as an actress & what her character brought to the movie.

Eggs

Johhny - read the books, they are better than the movies, and prepare you better for what is to come. Plus, you can enjoy the words coming to life in a ways. They tend to be more vivid in script, but the movie is still rich

Johnnny

Eggs

I will definitely keep a list of these books.


Eggs did you find it sad & boggling why they killed off Maria?

PreMier

It was just ironic, that Bourne switched places with her. If she didnt get killed off, then he wouldnt have gone looking for the CIA people.`

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Burner02

That was my only real complaint.
Oh, whe he was under water, how he was able to get out of the water undetected as the killer watched along with the others for a long time.
Other than that, a great film!
Now, I am waiting for Alien vs Predator!

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Johnnny

Premier

I agree with that.

But if he'd stuck with the original plan to drop her off & meet her in an hour, it would've been less risky for her & probably would've lived.

It just saddens me that's all as I enjoyed her as an actress, her character & what she brought to the film.

I still think they could've done it a bit differently. Most ppl in the theatre were shocked & reacted sadly when they saw her get shot. Which I guess is the effect the director wanted.

But I think they could've done it differently & let her character live & let the actress go on in these films.




I'm guessing the next film they will do is The Bourne Ultimatum from the book.
But if they do any more after that as that is the 3rd & final book with The Bourne something or other in the title I'm not sure.

Monolith

that reminds me... WTF was with him sitting at the bottom of the river with her for like 10 minutes? when the jeep first crashed, he had to go for a breath of air almost immediately. but then, like 5 minutes later, after he's already blown half of his lungs into her mouth, he just floats there watching her disappear. apparently bourne is not only a highly trained assassin, but he's half fish, too.

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Johnnny

Monolith

I know what you mean.

I would've tried to bring her to safety & tried my hardest to save her.

Not only was she shot, but she was submerged under water & if she had any chance she needed CPR above the water on land.

If it were me, I would've had her up on land giving her CPR within a few mins.

I still say they should've let Jason Bourne's love survive & live & be with him.

It would've made the story more interesting.

Jason Bourne still would've gone after the CIA despite as he was framed for 2 killings & theft of the money & the CIA was after him for that already.

MaxMirkin

Finally saw it yesterday. Pretty good. Certainly entertaining, but what possible reason did he have for not finishing that fuck off in Moscow? Hello, the guy killed his girl, you don't have to be a trained killer to pull the trigger on someone like that. It was totally illogical and out of character, IMO. Aside from that, I really enjoyed it.

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The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.

Johnnny

MaxMirkin

I hear you.

But the audience in our theatre & others who I know have seen it where under the impression that that f$ck ended up dying from the car crash as you see him all f$cked up, bleeding & then "passing out" or dying.

This was one reason why I thought they should've let Maria live.

They could've made it that she hid for the rest of the movie somewhere in an undisclosed location that he would meet up with her at the end of the movie just as the 1st one.

I'm still a bit pissed that they killed Maria off as I've already said I like the actress & what her character brought to the film.

From the list of books that Eggs supplied by Robert Ludlum, I'm guessing that the next movie will be The Bourne Ultimatum but whether they do any more movies from his books with Matt Damon, we'll just have to wait.

Great film, but just pissed off that his girl was killed off & they could've slowed the camera down for some parts a little.

But all in all a great film

MaxMirkin

Oh, he died? Ok that's cool then. I thought it looked like he was still breathing at the end & Bourne just walked away.

The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.