Are there any good girls out there?

**Flex** · 08-30-2004, 07:18 AM

I am seriously starting to lose faith in the female half of the human race.

Time and time again i seem to be getting burned by women. The first instance, i had my heart broken by my 1st gf, a long story some of you know. after we broke up, she "re-enter" my life just enough to make me fall in love again, almost like i'm a big dumb fish that can never catch that worm, but will keep on trying. so i get over her, finally, but of course not completely.

so then i hook up with a chick from my gym, who i find out is married with children (not Peg Bundy). As willing as she was to have sex, it made me wonder how many other guys this chick has cheated on her husband with. Then, LITERALLY a week later, my buddy tells the same thing happened to him. How a married chick, who was out here visiting from Alaska, basically hit on him until he agreed to go out with her, then they ended up sleeping together. a week later, when she gets home, she emails him a picture of her and her bodybuilder husband. Who does that? who sends a picture of them and the person they cheated on?

so recently i started talking to this chick that i've known for a few years. she seemed awesome. we had so much in common (really into BB, good food, good sense of humor, movies laddy-dah) and we got along real well. then this past saturday i'm talking to a mutual friend of ours, and she tells me that "my" girl has been going out with some dude the whole time.

plus one of my best buddies, even though some of it is his fault, lets himself get strung along just like i did. but he's been getting the short endof the stick for 7 years! she tells him enough things to keep him there, but won't date him or anything like that.

anyhow, sorry for the long post. i'm just so sick of chicks right now. I'm so sick of the lies, the deciet, the bullshit.

There's always been that saying, "nice guys finish last". and that couldnt' be truer. I'm a self-confessed gentlemen. I am nothing but nice. But Girls shit on nice guys. Girls want guys that treat them like shit. i've seen SOOOO many instances that its nothing but true. they like doing the "chasing" after asshole guys. i just don't get it???

honestly, Are there any good ones out there?

**P-funk** · 08-30-2004, 07:43 AM

I don't think so bro....women are wack. totally shot.

**Mudge** · 08-30-2004, 07:49 AM

Dude, most of humanity is not going to float your boat 100% of the time. Yes there are good girls out there, I know at least 3 at present.

**DFINEST** · 08-30-2004, 08:02 AM

Don't generalize bro', take care of YOU first...

there are some nice women out there BUT until you
and her find each other, remember this......

The person who shows the most affection
has the least control of the relationship...

BTW, guys who finish last are nice.

**Big Smoothy** · 08-30-2004, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Flex

I am seriously starting to lose faith in the female half of the human race.

Me too. Not all of them. But, most of them.

Time and time again i seem to be getting burned by women.

I am not getting burned because I am currently single. But I see a lot of peole around me getting burned.

There are good women out there. But the good ones are outnumbered by the mediocre and bad one. As we get older (in our 30s) the good women are usually married or in serious relationships. The ones with problems and baggage from the past, are single. This applies to guys and gals.

**DFINEST** · 08-30-2004, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Me too. Not all of them. But, most of them.

I am not getting burned because I am currently single. But I see a lot of peole around me getting burned.

There are good women out there. But the good ones are outnumbered by the mediocre and bad one. As we get older (in our 30s) the good women are usually married or in serious relationships. The ones with problems and baggage from the past, are single. This applies to guys and gals.

Just because a person is single and past the age of 30,
that doesn't make them problematic and baggage handlers.

**moon** · 08-30-2004, 08:16 AM

Oh I am not happy to hear that. Come to singapore, many sinaporean gals like tall hunk white guys.

. Damn I am quite jealous of those exchange students who have advantage over the locals. O well asians are short and hairy, but don't worry they have all the things a guy wants. But I am not sure of hymen

. Singapore is well Americanised ..but there are some who still maintain family values and most of them are open-minded and sohisticated.

**MaxMirkin** · 08-30-2004, 08:20 AM

Ever consider that you're just zoning in on the wrong ones? Do all the girls you go for have some similar characteristics? There are ways (trial and error my friend) to figure out what to expect from one, based on what she's like. (Obviously not fool proof, but after a while you should get yourself someone that's right.)

I was in your situation a while back. Thought I'd be single for the rest of my life. But then I found one, and knew it was meant to be.

My advice would be to try going for some girls with a radically different personality from the ones you had experience with. Maybe ones that doesn't seem so "fun" at first. They could end up being the ones to stand by you through thick and thin.

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 08:34 AM

Okay I guess it would be only right if I spoke on behalf of women. But I'm only speaking for myself b/c I will agree and say most women these days are shady. Alot of guys are but I'm finding it's more often the women. Here in NJ if you were to go to the bar, every female is dressed (or barely dressed) for that matter. They are all frumpy looking or overweight meanwhile pounding beers and pizza. Then they have the sense to be gold diggers. If you move up the age bracket a little, they are in the mid life crisis peak and are cheating on their husbands or too busy sitting on their asses being at home moms to go out, work and be independent. A true woman can be independent even if she is in a relationship. She should not have to be provided for and taken care of all the time by her man. Woman have come acustom to this lifestyle. Not to mention how rushed they are to get to the altar then breed. Constantly looking for a ring to make their relationships worth something. You probably just have had bad luck. Just consider yourself better off without her.

**P-funk** · 08-30-2004, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by shutupntra1n

Okay I guess it would be only right if I spoke on behalf of women. But I'm only speaking for myself b/c I will agree and say most women these days are shady. Alot of guys are but I'm finding it's more often the women. Here in NJ if you were to go to the bar, every female is dressed (or barely dressed) for that matter. They are all frumpy looking or overweight meanwhile pounding beers and pizza. Then they have the sense to be gold diggers. If you move up the age bracket a little, they are in the mid life crisis peak and are cheating on their husbands or too busy sitting on their asses being at home moms to go out, work and be independent. A true woman can be independent even if she is in a relationship. She should not have to be provided for and taken care of all the time by her man. Woman have come acustom to this lifestyle. Not to mention how rushed they are to get to the altar then breed. Constantly looking for a ring to make their relationships worth something. You probably just have had bad luck. Just consider yourself better off without her.

Sounds like you just described all the women in NYC

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by P-funk

Sounds like you just described all the women in NYC

Or women everywhere for that matter. I agree it's pretty rediculous. I had options to be just like them or be the minority. I think I'll be the minority on this one.

**Luke9583** · 08-30-2004, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mudge

Dude, most of humanity is not going to float your boat 100% of the time. Yes there are good girls out there, I know at least 3 at present.

Are you a world traveler or something

I have yet to find a decent one.

I have no problem finding evil twisted ones

**bulletproof1** · 08-30-2004, 08:49 AM

dude take my advice, you will never find the woman of your dreams if you are looking for her. 1 day you will be filling up your car with gas or picking up some protein and bam, your future will start when you least expect it. just relax and enjoy life ... she will come.

*** nice avatar mudge *** ... isnt that plagarism?

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 09:05 AM

I resent everyone's remarks on this thread

**Luke9583** · 08-30-2004, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by shutupntra1n

I resent everyone's remarks on this thread

We resent the fact we have to say it.

**bulletproof1** · 08-30-2004, 09:10 AM

even my remark?

**MaxMirkin** · 08-30-2004, 09:12 AM

Especially your remark.

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

even my remark?

I was j/k... it's funny hearing guys for a change vent about women.

**MaxMirkin** · 08-30-2004, 09:14 AM

Women is good. Me like women. Do I get a cookie?

**bulletproof1** · 08-30-2004, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by MaxMirkin

Especially your remark.

shutupntra1n - i try to not let my soft side be seen so

it will be our secret.

**SPIKE1257** · 08-30-2004, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Flex

I am seriously starting to lose faith in the female half of the human race.
a chick from my gym, who i find out is married with children (not Peg Bundy). As willing as she was to have sex, it made me wonder how many other guys this chick has cheated on her husband with.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like a bitch. Just go out there and get laid. Shit , you had a married woman that just wanted sex, no strings attached, and you started wondering ? I would be wondering how many different ways I could violate her. Keep nailing as many women as you can, sooner or later you will find one you can tolerate, then marry her if you are that insecure.

Du · 08-30-2004, 10:21 AM

Damn right Spike.

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by SPIKE1257

Don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like a bitch. Just go out there and get laid. Shit , you had a married woman that just wanted sex, no strings attached, and you started wondering ? I would be wondering how many different ways I could violate her. Keep nailing as many women as you can, sooner or later you will find one you can tolerate, then marry her if you are that insecure.

He forgot to mention to double bag it while nailing as many as possible...

**DFINEST** · 08-30-2004, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by shutupntra1n

He forgot to mention to double bag it while nailing as many as possible...

**SPIKE1257** · 08-30-2004, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by shutupntra1n

He forgot to mention to double bag it while nailing as many as possible...

That goes without saying.Always use a raincoat.

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by SPIKE1257

That goes without saying.Always use a raincoat.

No Jimmy=

**pmech** · 08-30-2004, 10:31 AM

Morals are great. I applaud you flex, for standing up in the face of a adulterer.

**SPIKE1257** · 08-30-2004, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by pmech

Morals are great. I applaud you flex, for standing up in the face of a adulterer.

Take your self righteous ass outta here. Welcome to the real world.

**shutupntra1n** · 08-30-2004, 10:49 AM

To be honest, what do you expect from people if you jump in the sheets that quick. The outcome can be anything. As adults, if you are going to be that involved with someone so soon you should expect all possible outcomes including the good old fashioned... "Listen, there's something you should know"....

Getting involved too fast is the #1 reason for getting burned. It takes a long time to get to know someone. It doesn't happen in a week. Not to mention with all the gifts floating around, why would you want to sleep with just anyone??? A rold in the sack is not worth all the dirt it brings. Not lecturing but your shortcomings seem to be a product of the way you are going about your quick involvement with these women.

**GoalGetter** · 08-30-2004, 11:17 AM

Living in South Florida (Miami Beach, specifically), and being one of the few self-proclaimed "good girls" out here, I get this crap from my guy friends all the time. They are always bitching about women down here playing more than one guy at a time, or only being interested in guys with money or guys who are unrealistically good looking (which in and of itself is a highly debatable and wholly subjective quality).

I have never cheated on anyone, never gone after a guy for his money (I have a job and pay my own bills), and historically, my boyfriends have been cute in a dorky kind of way, but I've never been seen with a "hot" guy.

And still... the complaints can fly both ways, Flex. Most guys I've met down here want to go straight to bed, or have no goals and are happy working a minimum wage job (or three of them) to support their habit (that being souping up their ridiculous attention-whore cars, usually) with no aspiration to better themselves or achieve more in life than "employee of the month". Some have been married, or engaged, or have kids (and often a soon-to-be-ex-wife), which they failed to tell me about in the beginning. And then there are the guys who are control freaks, or violent, or self-absorbed, or still have their mother do their laundry for them (washed AND folded) -- a big no, no for a guy in his 30's if you ask me.

Most of my friends and I share this dilemma, save for one or two who have sincerely lucked out and have one of the "good ones" in their lives.

I for one, refuse to lower my standards or make compromises for the sake of not being alone. I will hold out for MY "good one", even if it means I'll be condemning myself to a long string of first dates from now until I'm 45.

It sucks, I know... but despite all that crap I just listed, I have faith. And you should, too.

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