Thread: Pentagon?

I have read about and watched videos on that theory many times. In my opinion, it is the most absurd theory I have every heard. I rank it right up there with Elvis is alive and "we didn';t really land on the moon."

Oh no, its perfectly believable. That is, once you train yourself to ignore reality and pretend the people in that plane just flew into a rip in time with no trace of them ever to be seen ever again, while the US military - expecting this rip in time - launched a cruise missile at 100 feet over heavily populated metro dc into the pentagon.

I don't see how anyone could believe any differently.

i think there are some logical points in that presentation.... how are u going to argue with them.. they are indubitable...

I have to admit, I did not watch much of the presentation.

However, like I said, I have seen/read about this before and there is very little logic involved in the theory.

But my logical points are indubitable as well. It seems like we're at an impasse...

Originally Posted by Pepper

In my opinion, it is the most absurd theory I have every heard.

I think it does make sense. Why is it so absurd?

Please, please tell me you are kidding....quickly

Since the bodies of the passengers were found at the pentagon, does that mean they took them off the plane while it was at the airport, killed them then trucked them over to the pentagon? Then went back and hid the jet liner?

Originally Posted by Pepper

Since the bodies of the passengers were found at the pentagon, does that mean they took them off the plane while it was at the airport, killed them then trucked them over to the pentagon? Then went back and hid the jet liner?

no they were hidden in the cruise missile

I can not explain the pessengers there. I forgot about it. My logic fails here.
I can not explain the crash site too. The wreckage and the form it happened doesn´t look like from a crash of a 737 full of fuel.

Of maybe they planted the bodies when they planted the landing gear.

Wait, cruise missiles have landing gear too...i guess.

You think a plane traveling at 500 MPH, fully fueld that hits a concrete building looks like a plane afterwards?

Sorry I am stupid today.
I just remember that when the plane hit the WTC it pratically disappeared.
Damn.. Pepper is smarter than me today. It is monday, it is monday..

From Snopes:

Because the plane disappeared into the building's interior after penetrating the outer ring, it was not visible in photographs taken from outside the Pentagon. Moreover, since the airliner was full of jet fuel and was flown into thick, reinforced concrete walls at high speed, exploding in a fireball, any pieces of wreckage large enough to be identifiable in after-the-fact photographs taken from a few hundred feet away burned up in the intense fire that followed the crash (just as the planes flown into the World Trade Center towers burned up, and the intensity of their jet-fuel fires caused both towers to collapse).
Small pieces of airplane debris were plainly visible on the Pentagon lawn in other photographs, however, such as the one below Because the plane disappeared into the building's interior after penetrating the outer ring, it was not visible in photographs taken from outside the Pentagon. Moreover, since the airliner was full of jet fuel and was flown into thick, reinforced concrete walls at high speed, exploding in a fireball, any pieces of wreckage large enough to be identifiable in after-the-fact photographs taken from a few hundred feet away burned up in the intense fire that followed the crash (just as the planes flown into the World Trade Center towers burned up, and the intensity of their jet-fuel fires caused both towers to collapse).

Small pieces of airplane debris were plainly visible on the Pentagon lawn in other photographs, however, such as the one below

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Well, this non-sense has been educational actually. I just learned that it is believe the plane came in so low that it actually hit the ground first before hitting between the first and second floor of the Pentagon. That's pretty fricking low.

EXACTLY

Originally Posted by Pepper

I have to admit, I did not watch much of the presentation.

Please don't argue over something you haven't even seen... if you watch the presentation, it brings up the point of the plane hitting the ground first and then crashing... BUT THE GROUND LOOKS ALL GREEN WITH NO MESS OF THE PLANE.. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOLF COURSE...

And the bodies could have been of the people that died in the pentagon...

Originally Posted by pumpthatiron

And the bodies could have been of the people that died in the pentagon...

or the extraterrestrial that the government hides.

I watched the slide show and it was completely stupid. As for the bodies, with forensic science as good as it is today, they are definitely able to determine Pentagon personnel verse airline passengers. Have you ever watch Cold Case Files? Remember that the military keep great records on their people...i.e dental records and medical records. Plus must civilians have gone to a dentist at some point in their lives. It is pretty easy to do dental record checks.

no shit, but the governemnt wants us to think that it's really a plane.. and the government has complete power

Originally Posted by pumpthatiron

EXACTLY


Please don't argue over something you haven't even seen... if you watch the presentation, it brings up the point of the plane hitting the ground first and then crashing... BUT THE GROUND LOOKS ALL GREEN WITH NO MESS OF THE PLANE.. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOLF COURSE...

And the bodies could have been of the people that died in the pentagon...

It is too ridiculous to watch AGAIN. I am sure it is the same one I have seen before.

This is proof that some people will beleive ANYTHING.

Originally Posted by Vieope

or the extraterrestrial that the government hides.

Oh..good thinking...they moved the ETs from Hanger 18 to the Pentagon.

I guess the plane is being stored on the set of the moon landing filming and is being guarded by Elvis.

Originally Posted by pumpthatiron

no shit, but the governemnt wants us to think that it's really a plane.. and the government has complete power

What is the motive for the government doing this?

And what are the odds of the hundreds of people who had to know about this keeping quiet?

Why was there landing gear at the crash site?

Why did witnesses see a plane?

WHy were there bodies from the aircraft?

Oh, and let's not forget, what happened to the actual plane?

Was this government plot just lucky to have ocurred on 9/11 or were they involved in the other plane incidents too?

This theory is a joke.

I don´t know munch about the facts of that day. So excume me if I am missing something here.

Anyway, how did they find the bodies if we agree that the wreckage disintegrated in the explosion? How come human teeth, bones and other DNA samples were available?

That presentation is mildly entertaining at best. Watching people try to defend it as real is like watching someone try to convince the masses that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real...funny but pathetic.

watching someone try to convince the masses that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real

they aren;t?? i just don't believe that. I just called my mom and she said they were. Why are you lyinh to me IAB?

On a funny note, I believed my parents whole heartedly, and any kid that told me different, up until 5th grade, often got a punch in the mouth for calling my mom a liar about the easter bunny and santa clause.

But NOW I know the truth, they are merely secret agendas put forth by the government to the adults of the world to keep the children under the control of "Naughty or Nice" reports findings. This was a report put out shortly before the "Iron mountain" reports, so it must be true.

There are several "conspiracy theories" about the 9/11 attacks, ranging from possible (but not plausible) to bizarre.

I've heard many of them. There are websites that claim the U.S. government used video control to fly the planes into the WTC buildings, and that after the crash, the government exploded bombs that brought the buildings down, because some seismologists at Columbia U. recorded explosions.

There are also several eyewitnesses, with a wide-range of backgrounds, who have described watching the plane crash into the Pentagon.

I believe that terrorists carried out these attacks, and were dedicated, planned it well, and also got very lucky, BUT....

Did certain people the U.S. government know about the attacks in advance?

Well, "Remember the Maine," was faked, Pearl Harbour was intentionally allowed to happen, and the Bay of Tonkin was fabricated.

Who benefitted from 9/11? The Military-Industrial Complex.

The same Military-Industrial Complex, that Eisenhower warned us about in the 1950s.

... run and hide, they are coming for you