Police can carry Off Duty in all 50 states..

QuestionGuy · 09-13-2004, 09:38 PM

I do not agree with you there my friend, if the averege joe shmoe start walking aroun with a gun and get mad at a guy who flips him off, dont you think we would have more killings around ? think about it man, we would also have more people impersonatin police officers, which is a bad thing, yeah i know its cool to be in a possision of power but there comes great responsibility with it.

QuestionGuy · 09-13-2004, 09:40 PM

I know there is gona be many haters out there right now but i dont care, i dont think there is one person here that knows more about law enforcement than me, if there is i greatly respect him for it. again im not being koky im just stating that some of these pepole are WRONG. all the other guys who have a negative opinion about me can please leyt me know what they think. I will answer every question and i promise i will make you change your mind about L.E.

Chain Link · 09-13-2004, 09:40 PM

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You sir a an IDIOT ok, ? You are probobly somewhere in a stupid southern redneck state. dumbass. damn your whole post was just wrong man. wtf ?

Hey now! Im in a southern state.. Not too many rednecks here though, looks like Florida leans more left, but not by much. Ya need to put quotes in those responses so we know who you're talking to (We can figure it out, but save us some time

):P

QuestionGuy · 09-13-2004, 09:40 PM

I know there is gona be many haters out there right now but i dont care, i dont think there is one person here that knows more about law enforcement than me, if there is i greatly respect him for it. again im not being koky im just stating that some of these pepole are WRONG. all the other guys who have a negative opinion about me can please leyt me know what they think. I will answer every question and i promise i will make you change your mind about L.E.

QuestionGuy · 09-13-2004, 09:40 PM

I know there is gona be many haters out there right now but i dont care, i dont think there is one person here that knows more about law enforcement than me, if there is i greatly respect him for it. again im not being koky im just stating that some of these pepole are WRONG. all the other guys who have a negative opinion about me can please leyt me know what they think. I will answer every question and i promise i will make you change your mind about L.E.

Chain Link · 09-13-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

Iif the averege joe shmoe start walking aroun with a gun and get mad at a guy who flips him off, dont you think we would have more killings around ?

I, personally, have never heard of such a case. We have CCW in Florida, which allows you to carry pretty much anywhere that doesnt have it posted. Most people with such instability are already criminals, and cannot aquire a CCW anyways; but would, and do carry illegally. After all, the point of CCW is that nobody knows you're packing, so people who carry illegally are only caught after they've commited a crime.
Of course there will be instances where scenarios similar to the one you mention do happen. Id expect that in a country with such a taboo for firearms. In highschool over 1/2 of your classes are electives, AKA daycare. And there is not even one OPTIONAL firearms class. I believe there should be a required firearms class. Not like, lets go to the range and fire guns class, but informational and safety. Statistic and movies class.. kind of like drivers ed where they show you a bunch of people in car accidents to scare you. lol.

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to be in a possision of power but there comes great responsibility with it.

Luke9583 · 09-14-2004, 06:55 AM

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i dont think there is one person here that knows more about law enforcement than me

Well aren't you special tough guy

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They are required to attend performance driving tests all the time, plus when they are on duty. They are profesional drivers and they know how to drive, yes better then you.

Bullsh#t. I know many police officers, and have state officers in the family (Michigan). They don't know the first thing about performance driving, and most should not even be allowed around a 4,500lbs cruiser.

"better than me"... You're really quick to assume, like your above statement about your self proclaimed law enforcement knowledge. What makes you think you know what my driving capabilities are

camarosuper6 · 09-14-2004, 01:16 PM

In California... during the academy we are required 40 hours of performance driving at a closed course. Its a lot of fun, and really does teach you some good skills, but as far as renewing them, I dont BELIEVE Officers are required too.

Luke9583 · 09-14-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6

In California... during the academy we are required 40 hours of performance driving at a closed course. Its a lot of fun, and really does teach you some good skills, but as far as renewing them, I dont BELIEVE Officers are required too.

FUN! Mind if I ask what the classes are like? What kind of skill/techniques do they really push for?

**dg806** · 09-14-2004, 02:00 PM

High speed and maneuverability.

**dg806** · 09-14-2004, 02:01 PM

I like the old "Dale Earnhardt" short track trick myself!

Luke9583 · 09-14-2004, 02:01 PM

Can you be more specific?

Jeeper · 09-14-2004, 04:38 PM

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Thats the stupidest comment Ive ever read. Police shoot the wrong person at a higher percentage? Police are put in shooting situations for a living, the percentages of Police Officers getting in shootings compared to a regular person with a CCW alone are probably 99 percent to 1. Well DUH Police are going to make more incorrect assesments, given the fact that they are commonly put in stressful situations on a daily basis where force has to be used.

The statement itself is ludacris.

Huh??? WHat does percentage have to do with the number of shooting you are involved in? That is why it is a percentage. Are you saying that the more shootings you are in, the more inept you become? A percentage is determined irrelevant of the total number.

Jeeper · 09-14-2004, 04:42 PM

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This is for JEEPERS

You sir a an IDIOT ok, ? You are probobly somewhere in a stupid southern redneck state. dumbass. damn your whole post was just wrong man. wtf ?

What a logical and educated response. Tell me what is wrong in a reasoned opinion and I will respond with a counter argument.

As far as your argument about somone flipping off someone else and them getting shot...Find me a case where this has happened. Florida has had CCW for more than 20 years. Around 40 states have it also. You would hear about it if it happened. CCW holders have a lower crime rate than basically any other discernable group.

BoneCrusher · 09-14-2004, 05:02 PM

Texas had an imediate resaponse to its CCW enactment. Crime droped and Houston Lost its title as murder capital of USA. Fear does generate respect.

Luke9583 · 09-14-2004, 09:18 PM

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Texas had an imediate resaponse to its CCW enactment. Crime droped and Houston Lost its title as murder capital of USA. Fear does generate respect.

lmao, so it went from Houston to Flint, michigan

. It must have been a close race to begin with.

camarosuper6 · 09-15-2004, 03:21 AM

In our Academy, we had many points stressed. We did work on a skid-pan and how to drive through skids. We did high speed pursuit work, and how to properly gas/brake a vehicle on turns and such at high speeds. We did parking, manuverability, passing other vehicles and other fun stuff

Luke9583 · 09-15-2004, 06:46 AM

Where you tought any technical driving techniques like the scandinavian flick or left foot braking? Did they encourage you to participate in SCCA or solo events?

Big Smoothy · 09-15-2004, 08:27 AM

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It's the Republican's way of "increasing" the number officers in the field, so they dont have to pay overtime, or pay for more officers. Bush is also the one who stopped the "COPS" program, which pays for more officers, vests, cruisers, etc. HE just threw them a bone

Instead of supporting police officers in our own country, goes cheap here, and spend money on police in Iraq. Bush even gives welfare money to former Baath party members!

09-14-2004, 01:16 PM	#38
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	In California... during the academy we are required 40 hours of performance driving at a closed course. Its a lot of fun, and really does teach you some good skills, but as far as renewing them, I dont BELIEVE Officers are required too. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

09-14-2004, 02:00 PM	#40
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	High speed and maneuverability. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

09-14-2004, 02:01 PM	#41
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	I like the old "Dale Earnhardt" short track trick myself! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

09-14-2004, 02:01 PM	#42
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroiit Posts: 5,407 Photos: 7	Can you be more specific? "If you're not part of the solution, you're the precipitate."

09-15-2004, 03:21 AM	#47
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	In our Academy, we had many points stressed. We did work on a skid-pan and how to drive through skids. We did high speed pursuit work, and how to properly gas/brake a vehicle on turns and such at high speeds. We did parking, manuverability, passing other vehicles and other fun stuff "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

09-13-2004, 09:38 PM	#31
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,742	I do not agree with you there my friend, if the averege joe shmoe start walking aroun with a gun and get mad at a guy who flips him off, dont you think we would have more killings around ? think about it man, we would also have more people impersonatin police officers, which is a bad thing, yeah i know its cool to be in a possision of power but there comes great responsibility with it.

09-13-2004, 09:40 PM	#32
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,742	I know there is gona be many haters out there right now but i dont care, i dont think there is one person here that knows more about law enforcement than me, if there is i greatly respect him for it. again im not being koky im just stating that some of these pepole are WRONG. all the other guys who have a negative opinion about me can please leyt me know what they think. I will answer every question and i promise i will make you change your mind about L.E.

09-14-2004, 05:02 PM	#45
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Texas had an imediate resaponse to its CCW enactment. Crime droped and Houston Lost its title as murder capital of USA. Fear does generate respect.

09-15-2004, 06:46 AM	#48
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroiit Posts: 5,407 Photos: 7	Where you tought any technical driving techniques like the scandinavian flick or left foot braking? Did they encourage you to participate in SCCA or solo events? "If you're not part of the solution, you're the precipitate."

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