Bush's Achievements

**redspy** · 09-29-2004, 09:30 PM

A couple of people have recently posed the question "What are the achievements of GW Bush over the past four years?" Let's take a look:-

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

The most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of his cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleezza Rice has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

His biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill -pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months he has no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks he has successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

**gr81** · 09-29-2004, 10:05 PM

lets not forget that people always come with the, well Saddamm is gone and we are safer... BULLSHIT! we are absolutely NOT safer with Saddam gone, not by a long shot. Bush has managed to unite the Muslims extremists against the US which is an accomplishment in itself. We will get hit again, its just a matter of time. These people are bitter and angry that we are in their country killing them. whatever made Bush think that he could just pop in and out of a war that has been going on for hundreds of years is beyond me. but hey, we have color coded terror alerts so I feel ok!

**redspy** · 09-29-2004, 10:08 PM

I completely agree bro. Even Bush admitted recently in an interview that the war on terror cannot be won

They say it was a gaff but occassionally the truth slips out. Just in case anybody disputes this here's the quote:-

Asked on NBC television whether America could win its "war on terror", the president had replied: "I don't think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the - those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."

**gr81** · 09-29-2004, 10:22 PM

thats b/c you can't wages wars on a mindset, it just doesn't work. and Proof of this would be the war we have been fighting since Nixon's era, the "war on drugs". how's that worked out for us folx? What the hell is wrong with people, Bush has opened pandora's box alright, lets just sit back and watch this situation escelate..

**gr81** · 09-29-2004, 10:24 PM

btw I am sure some snooty right winger will come in and tell us how our liberal minds are blinded and Bush really has done good, but we all know the truth, its as plain as day.. if you can't see that then you are the one whose blinded. Partisanship aside, how in your right mind can you possibly say things are better off now than they were four years ago? its just not true

**Prince** · 09-29-2004, 10:34 PM

wow, that is some list!

I knew he was the worst president in history, but you really sealed that cap on that one!

**PreMier** · 09-29-2004, 10:43 PM

Wow.

**milliman** · 09-29-2004, 11:20 PM

Redspy,

Wow . . . I am speechless.
M wife would probably say for the first time ever.

I would love to tackle some of those, but I am too busy now.

Gotta go . . .

ps : thanks for the avatar links

**Luke9583** · 09-30-2004, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

wow, that is some list!

I knew he was the worst president in history, but you really sealed that cap on that one!

Yea, and he's going to get re elected

Too many seflish people out there.

**Prince** · 10-21-2004, 08:43 AM

since the election is getting near I thought this thread deserved a bump!

**redspy** · 10-21-2004, 11:23 AM

More Bush updates:-

WASHINGTON — Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson says he warned President Bush before U.S. troops invaded Iraq that the United States would sustain casualties but that Bush responded, "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136107,00.html

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**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by gr81

lets not forget that people always come with the, well Saddamm is gone and we are safer... BULLSHIT! we are absolutely NOT safer with Saddam gone, not by a long shot. Bush has managed to unite the Muslims extremists against the US which is an accomplishment in itself. We will get hit again, its just a matter of time. These people are bitter and angry that we are in their country killing them. whatever made Bush think that he could just pop in and out of a war that has been going on for hundreds of years is beyond me. but hey, we have color coded terror alerts so I feel ok!

this is where you lost me.. what would you have bush do after 911? I don't understand the mindset there at all. We have to give the fuqs a reason to not come after us. to do nothing would fuel the fire. Clinton did the "do nothing" route & did not take down bin laden when he had the chance, hence 911. put the blame where it's due. Bush has at least crippled terrorists... I don't see that anywhere in your list.

opening pandora's box? that's laughable. They would continue to come after us regardless & to think otherwise is idiotic, no offense. Even if we never went into iraq or even afghanistan, these wackos had it in for the US.Um... 911 was before both Bush went anywhere!

but that's ok.. blame bush. it fits with your agenda. forget the facts.

**Prince** · 10-21-2004, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Clinton did the "do nothing" route & did not take down bin laden when he had the chance, hence 911. put the blame where it's due.

ummm...you may want to research that one a bit.

**redspy** · 10-21-2004, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

this is where you lost me.. what would you have bush do after 911? I don't understand the mindset there at all. We have to give the fuqs a reason to not come after us. to do nothing would fuel the fire. Clinton did the "do nothing" route & did not take down bin laden when he had the chance, hence 911. put the blame where it's due. Bush has at least crippled terrorists... I don't see that anywhere in your list.

opening pandora's box? that's laughable. They would continue to come after us regardless & to think otherwise is idiotic, no offense. Even if we never went into iraq or even afghanistan, these wackos had it in for the US.Um... 911 was before both Bush went anywhere!

but that's ok.. blame bush. it fits with your agenda. forget the facts.

I challenge you to provide evidence that Bush has "crippled terrorists..." The US doesn't even know the identity of most terrorists. Even the state department has admitted (after initially denying it) that terrorism is increasing. Even Colin Powell said "I am very disturbed that there were errors in the [Terrorism] report. We're going to correct it"

It's a complete falsehood to say things are improving.

**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

ummm...you may want to research that one a bit.

ok.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...n-binladen.htm

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page..._bin_laden.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...5/153637.shtml

i shouldn't have said that the way i did...i don't blame clinton but you certainly can't blame bush either.. that's all i was getting at.

**Dale Mabry** · 10-21-2004, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

this is where you lost me.. what would you have bush do after 911? I don't understand the mindset there at all. We have to give the fuqs a reason to not come after us. to do nothing would fuel the fire. Clinton did the "do nothing" route & did not take down bin laden when he had the chance, hence 911. put the blame where it's due. Bush has at least crippled terrorists... I don't see that anywhere in your list.

opening pandora's box? that's laughable. They would continue to come after us regardless & to think otherwise is idiotic, no offense. Even if we never went into iraq or even afghanistan, these wackos had it in for the US.Um... 911 was before both Bush went anywhere!

but that's ok.. blame bush. it fits with your agenda. forget the facts.

The fact is he should have completely destroyed Al Qaeda before entering a war with someone else. He has given them a chance to regroup and recruit.

**Dale Mabry** · 10-21-2004, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

ok.

i shouldn't have said that the way i did...i don't blame clinton but you certainly can't blame bush either.. that's all i was getting at.

Blame both, 9/11 could have been prevented.

**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Blame both, 9/11 could have been prevented.

I don't really believe that... not realistically, anyway. A lot of things "could have" happened.

**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

The fact is he should have completely destroyed Al Qaeda before entering a war with someone else. He has given them a chance to regroup and recruit.

I probably agree with that, but I still think Iraq had to be dealt with.

**redspy** · 10-21-2004, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I probably agree with that, but I still think Iraq had to be dealt with.

Why?

**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by redspy

I challenge you to provide evidence that Bush has "crippled terrorists..." The US doesn't even know the identity of most terrorists. Even the state department has admitted (after initially denying it) that terrorism is increasing. Even Colin Powell said "I am very disturbed that there were errors in the [Terrorism] report. We're going to correct it"

It's a complete falsehood to say things are improving.

i don't know how the hell i missed that report. I'll look into that more tonight.

besides that, what i was saying is the gr81 was trying to claim bush created the hatred for the us, which is obviously not the case.

**busyLivin** · 10-21-2004, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by redspy

Why?

saddam threw inspectors out thus breaking the terms of the agreement. the un wouldn't do anything about it. I still say he had wmd.. I never went back on that. I think bush only did for the election. These reports are garbage as far as im concerned.

also, I really believe what bush said during the debates that to stop terrorism, you have to also take away their safe havens. maybe i'm a fool, but I don't see another way.

now, back to work. lunch is over.

**Dale Mabry** · 10-21-2004, 12:23 PM

Iraq had to be dealt with.

9/11 could have been prevented with the information we had. Hell, Clinton should have taken care of it, but didn't. Bush had enough info to raise the terror alert prior to 9/11 but didn't. I understand where you are coming from, but I still think it could have been prevented.

**redspy** · 10-21-2004, 12:31 PM

The two key justifications for going to war, i.e. WMD and terrorist links, have be shown by most accounts to be false. This leaves us with the old line about wanting to install democracy to free the Iraqi people. While this may seem a noble goal it's not the role of our military to displace dictators, where ever they might be. People suffer humans right violations in Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Cuba, Iran, China and many other countries and yet we don't act. Why is that? Is oil a factor? Is the safety of Israel a factor?

I don't believe in the assertion that the world is a safer place now, it's not even true to say Iraq is safer. I know Saddam was a ruthless tyrant there's no arguing that point, but why are we so selective about the dictators we choose to displace?

**redspy** · 10-21-2004, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Iraq had to be dealt with.

9/11 could have been prevented with the information we had. Hell, Clinton should have taken care of it, but didn't. Bush had enough info to raise the terror alert prior to 9/11 but didn't. I understand where you are coming from, but I still think it could have been prevented.

I'd never lay the blame on Bush or Clinton for 9/11. The key screw-up as far as I'm concerned is the CIA and its failure to analyze all the intelligence laid before them. When you have Arabs taking flying lessons for large commercial planes and with no desire to learn how to land them something is clearly wrong. I'm no expert in these matters but I tend to think landing a plane is kind of important.

The fact is the 9/11 plot was technically a very impression operation. With just 19 hijackers, a few support staff and $400,000 they devastated this country.

**maniclion** · 10-21-2004, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I probably agree with that, but I still think Iraq had to be dealt with.

1959 - CIA employs Saddam Hussein in a botched attempted assassination of Kassim. The CIA then helps Saddam escape through Tikrit into Syria, where the CIA pays for his apartment and puts him through a brief training course.

1963 - CIA aids Saddam Hussein and his Ba'ath party in a bloody military coup (in which around 5,000 are estimated killed) which overthrows president Kassim and puts the Ba'ath party into power.

1983 - Shortly after the secretary of state, George Shultz, is passed intelligence reports of "almost daily use of CW [chemical weapons]" by Iraq, Ronald Reagan signs a secret order instructing the administration to do "whatever was necessary and legal" to prevent Iraq losing the war. Donald Rumsfeld meets Saddam Hussein the following month in Baghdad and passes on the US willingness to help his regime and restore full diplomatic relations.

Why didn't we deal with Iraq in 1983 instead of Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand?

Why? Because we had plans to pit Iraq against Iran and have each side kill off the other so we could come in and suck the deserts dry of that Black Plague, while supplying weapons and other aid to Iraq we had the Iran-Contra selling weapons to Iran.

**maniclion** · 10-21-2004, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by redspy

I don't believe in the assertion that the world is a safer place now, it's not even true to say Iraq is safer. I know Saddam was a ruthless tyrant there's no arguing that point, but why are we so selective about the dictators we choose to displace?

Iraq is actually less safe at this moment, it's borders are unguarded, violence erupts on the streets, people are scared to leave their homes and they are definitely teetering on civil war.

**ALBOB** · 10-21-2004, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by redspy

The two key justifications for going to war, i.e. WMD and terrorist links, have be shown by most accounts to be false.

WMD: It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had them. THOUSANDS of TONS of WMD's were documented during the first Gulf War. Part of the U.N. resolutions follow the first war was that their destruction be WITNESSED and DOCUMENTED by U.N. inspectors. That never happened! There has NEVER been any documentation as to where all those thousands of tons of WMD's are. The three biggest intelligence networks in the world, U.S., Great Britan and Russia all had evidence they were still in Iraq. So, the evidence points to the FACT that they exist. At this point we're pretty sure they're not in Iraq. My question is, where are they? Obviously this is personal opinion and I don't try to hide the fact that I'm biased, but the WMD issue was enough to justify the war.

No terrorist links: NOT TRUE!!! The 9/11 commission has found no evidence of links to Al Qaeda specifically, but noted that Saddamm was a HUGE supporter of terrorism in general. He provided supplies, intelligence and training to vast armys of terrorists.

**Dale Mabry** · 10-21-2004, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by ALBOB

He provided supplies, intelligence and training to vast armys of terrorists.

As did we.

**ALBOB** · 10-21-2004, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

As did we.

Yeah, but we're allowed. We're the good guys.

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