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    Why Eisenhower's son will vote Kerry.

    http://www.theunionleader.com/Articl...4657&archive=1

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    The fact is that today’s “Republican” Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar. To me, the word “Republican” has always been synonymous with the word “responsibility,” which has meant limiting our governmental obligations to those we can afford in human and financial terms. Today’s whopping budget deficit of some $440 billion does not meet that criterion.

    Responsibility used to be observed in foreign affairs. That has meant respect for others. America, though recognized as the leader of the community of nations, has always acted as a part of it, not as a maverick separate from that community and at times insulting towards it. Leadership involves setting a direction and building consensus, not viewing other countries as practically devoid of significance. Recent developments indicate that the current Republican Party leadership has confused confident leadership with hubris and arrogance.

    In the Middle East crisis of 1991, President George H.W. Bush marshaled world opinion through the United Nations before employing military force to free Kuwait from Saddam Hussein. Through negotiation he arranged for the action to be financed by all the industrialized nations, not just the United States. When Kuwait had been freed, President George H. W. Bush stayed within the United Nations mandate, aware of the dangers of occupying an entire nation.

    Today many people are rightly concerned about our precious individual freedoms, our privacy, the basis of our democracy. Of course we must fight terrorism, but have we irresponsibly gone overboard in doing so? I wonder. In 1960, President Eisenhower told the Republican convention, “If ever we put any other value above (our) liberty, and above principle, we shall lose both.” I would appreciate hearing such warnings from the Republican Party of today.

    The Republican Party I used to know placed heavy emphasis on fiscal responsibility, which included balancing the budget whenever the state of the economy allowed it to do so. The Eisenhower administration accomplished that difficult task three times during its eight years in office. It did not attain that remarkable achievement by cutting taxes for the rich. Republicans disliked taxes, of course, but the party accepted them as a necessary means of keep the nation’s financial structure sound.

    The Republicans used to be deeply concerned for the middle class and small business. Today’s Republican leadership, while not solely accountable for the loss of American jobs, encourages it with its tax code and heads us in the direction of a society of very rich and very poor.

    Sen. Kerry, in whom I am willing to place my trust, has demonstrated that he is courageous, sober, competent, and concerned with fighting the dangers associated with the widening socio-economic gap in this country. I will vote for him enthusiastically. I celebrate, along with other Americans, the diversity of opinion in this country. But let it be based on careful thought. I urge everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike, to avoid voting for a ticket merely because it carries the label of the party of one’s parents or of our own ingrained habits.


    Many of the older guy's here at my office have been life-long Republicans, this year they have all shown their disapproval of Bush and will be voting Kerry.
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    Sen. Kerry, in whom I am willing to place my trust, has demonstrated that he is courageous, sober, competent, and concerned with fighting the dangers associated with the widening socio-economic gap in this country. I will vote for him enthusiastically. I celebrate, along with other Americans, the diversity of opinion in this country. But let it be based on careful thought. I urge everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike, to avoid voting for a ticket merely because it carries the label of the party of one’s parents or of our own ingrained habits.
    It's really a shame his voting record doesn't support your reasons.

    See, I disagree with your views on Kerry.

    He is not what I would call courageous.
    He has not proven to be competent. (What bills has he authored?)
    He says he is concerned with the socio-economic gap, but his voting record doesn't reflect that.

    He says one thing, votes another way. He IS inconsistent. You don't have to believe me, just actually take the time to look at his voting record over the last 20 years. Pick one subject, and count the yes and no's.

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    We could be at this all night.. I just found the motherload of kerry pics

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    I know. I need to break for refreshments

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspy
    Just want to point out that the 17% increase was done under the Clinton administration. Not Bush. One of those things that didn't go into effect for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickboy
    It's really a shame his voting record doesn't support your reasons.

    See, I disagree with your views on Kerry.

    He is not what I would call courageous.
    He has not proven to be competent. (What bills has he authored?)
    He says he is concerned with the socio-economic gap, but his voting record doesn't reflect that.

    He says one thing, votes another way. He IS inconsistent. You don't have to believe me, just actually take the time to look at his voting record over the last 20 years. Pick one subject, and count the yes and no's.
    His voting record reflects that he didn't trust the republican responsibilties to the country. He didn't vote against specific weapons, they were nested in Pentagon appropriations and spending authorizations. He felt the money would be better spent or was pork. Starting in 1997 Kerry voted for every regular Department of Defense appropriations bill and for every authorization bill as well when they became more reponsible in his view.

    What bills did he author? 1985 he introduced a "nuclear freeze" resolution calling on the President to negotiate a "verifiable" halt to testing, production and deployment of nuclear weapons. It attracted no co-sponsors and died without a hearing in committee. Wow, to think he actually sees the U.S as leading the world in ending Nuclear Proliferation, what a nut.

    His tax cuts and raises votes are not even an issue since those 98 times have been argued that most were against insane cuts by Republicans that went against the "balanced budget" plans. I mean some were against things like the Republicans trying to end the "Gas Tax".

    The most irresponsible Tax Cut ever was when George Bush gave millionaires tax cut's and sent our budget into the hole. His administration has been giving inflated deficit estimates so that when the actual numbers come in it appears that their policies are working.
    Is the Administration Being Straightforward with its Deficit Forecasts?
    Finally, the new CBO figures raise fresh concerns about how straightforward the Administration is being with its budget estimates. The Administration appears to have massaged its deficit estimates. Last February, the Administration produced an overstated deficit estimate of $521 billion for the current fiscal year. When the Administration issued its most recent estimate on July 30 — an estimate of a $445 billion deficit for 2004 — the Administration claimed that the drop from $521 billion to $445 billion was good news that showed its policies were working. As noted, however, economic growth has not exceeded earlier expectations. Moreover, the long-term budget picture has failed to improve. The change in the projected level of the deficit in 2004 only indicates that short-term deficits were overestimated to begin with.


    Moreover, the Administration’s current official estimate — that the deficit will be $445 billion in the current fiscal year — itself appears to be overstated. Only three days after OMB issued the $445 billion estimate, the Treasury quietly issued an estimate that the deficit would be $418 billion this year, about the same level CBO is projecting. When the actual deficit is announced at about $422 billion shortly before the election, the Administration may contend that the $422 is “good news” that shows further progress has been made since July, because the 2004 deficit has been “reduced” further from $445 billion to $422 billion.
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    The fact is that today’s “Republican” Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar.
    The GOP has been hi-jacked by Neo-conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin
    this is the only i honestly dont understand....how did he betray anyone...he just wanted the war to end...i truely dont see why conservatives are hitting on this one at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomas101
    this is the only i honestly dont understand....how did he betray anyone...he just wanted the war to end...i truely dont see why conservatives are hitting on this one at all
    "John Kerry, as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, ordered the destruction of committee documents, blocked avenues of investigation, and misrepresented progress on the POW/MIA issue to justify lifting of the trade embargo against Vietnam."

    http://www.powmiafamiliesagainstjohnkerry.com/

    This site obviously has an agenda, but read up: you'll get the idea of where the "Kerry betrayal" apsect comes from.

    (Remember, this is just answering your question)

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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin
    "John Kerry, as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, ordered the destruction of committee documents, blocked avenues of investigation, and misrepresented progress on the POW/MIA issue to justify lifting of the trade embargo against Vietnam."

    http://www.powmiafamiliesagainstjohnkerry.com/

    This site obviously has an agenda, but read up: you'll get the idea of where the "Kerry betrayal" apsect comes from.

    (Remember, this is just answering your question)
    That's your rebutal to my post that some families think Kerry abandoned POWs without evidence nor contempt for McCain, who was on the same committee, for the same lift on the embargo, and is currently pushing the Bush agenda.

    None of you want to face that Bush's spend now pay later, give money to everyone even in a time of war attitude is going to send us into a hard economic decade.
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