Firestorm Gone

fire · 10-22-2004, 12:39 PM

The original thread FIRESTORM BANNED was deleted because it turned into a why thread rather then the real purpose which was a Goodbye Thread. I'll try to answer the WHY and say my goodbyes and hopefully this will help keep it around so my friends will know I'm gone.

Yes I have been banned but not because of any wrong doings by any of the Mods or members here but because of my own actions. I threatened another member here for the sole purpose of intimidating him into leaving me alone. I also threatened to find out where he lives and come after him for bringing my wife into our personnal conflicts. Does this make the other member responsible for my being banned? Or partially responsible? The answer is NO. I threatened physical harm on that individual and the only one that knew I was bluffing was ME. I even went as far as asking a MOD of all people to find out personnel info on that person and relay it to me so that member would know I wasn't fooling around with him and he had better lay off. I did not tell the Mod that information so again, my fault. The mod thought of it as anyone would that I wanted the info so I could track the guy down. That is the short version of that entire incident. I was NOT banned for this alone. The Mods also took into account previous situations involving myself, one very similar to this one. My trying to get personnel info on another NYC member again to use as an intimidation factor. In that case I gathered loads of info including that persons home address and even his gym. I never went after him as I stated I would, only let him know I could. we had since became friends. WHO these people are means NOTHING so don't ask who they are. The point is, I went WAY too far in order to make the bullshit stop. This Banning was brought on only by me and I'm the only one to blame, not the mods not Robert. Robert even attempted to have my BAN revolked but was voted down by the Mods 8-0. Even my closest personnel MOD friend here voted NOT to reinstate me and I admire him for it. He did the right thing. He thought of the Board 1st over friendship and I still consider him my VERY GOOD FRIEND and will continue my relationship with him via Email. Again who it is doesn't matter. People come here to have fun and to LEARN, not argue and be threatened. These mods are looking out for the best interest of the board and it's members and should be commended on that.
Back to Robert: Robert in fact has been GREAT. He even allowed me a temporary stay (Monday Midnight) to say goodbye to everyone with MY recomendation that I do NOT post or PM anyone. Again that was MY recomeendation not Roberts. How many boards would allow this? Thanks Robert.
**************************
With all that said and done and hopefully the question as to why I got myself banned answered, let me get to the real reason for this thread which is to say goodbye to everyone.

Im going to miss you guys and this board. IMO your members of the best bodybuilding board on the net. If I didn't believe that I wouldn't have been here 3 years myself. I had some great conversations with you guys and gals and learned alot. I owe GOPRO more then words can express with all his knowledge and wisdom on this great sport. Thanks brother, your still the BEST. As for all my other friends here , the list is too large to mention you all by name in fear I may miss someone so I will end this by saying, I'll miss all of you very much and hopefully can continue talking after I'm gone by Email. I'm sorry to all the members here for any aggravation you may have had by reading some of my "type 1st, think second" posts. I let my temper get the best of me at times sorry to say. Good luck to you guys and with your training. I wish you the best life has to offer. Remember I'm only gone from here but not dead. Feel free to Email me anytime. don't PM me since I can't respond to them please or ask me questions on this thread. I can only view it as agreed upon by myself and Robert and PLEASE keep the conversation on goodbyes or the thread will be DELETED again. Thank you for your understanding.
Sincerely,
Brian (firestorm;fire)
Email: firestormdownbelow@yahoo.com

bulletproof1 · 10-22-2004, 12:46 PM

what exactly are all the grounds for banning anyway?

OceanDude · 10-22-2004, 12:48 PM

Bummer fire...

Take care.

Sigh,
OD

OceanDude · 10-22-2004, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

what exactly are all the grounds for banning anyway?

This is where I thought people got sent to when they got banned from other places

OD

bulletproof1 · 10-22-2004, 12:50 PM

you mean we are all in hell?

greekblondechic · 10-22-2004, 12:51 PM

Awww, sorry you're leaving fire

Don't forget to bug me on yahoo!

Ahhhnold · 10-22-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

what exactly are all the grounds for banning anyway?

The guy sounds crazy..

Quote:

I also threatened to find out where he lives and come after him for bringing my wife into our personnal conflicts. Does this make the other member responsible for my being banned? Or partially responsible? The answer is NO. I threatened physical harm on that individual and the only one that knew I was bluffing was ME. I even went as far as asking a MOD of all people to find out personnel info on that person and relay it to me so that member would know I wasn't fooling around with him and he had better lay off.?

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Quote:

The Mods also took into account previous situations involving myself, one very similar to this one. My trying to get personnel info on another NYC member again to use as an intimidation factor. In that case I gathered loads of info including that persons home address and even his gym

That kinda stuff will get ya banned for sure. Whenever in Sacramentos look me up. Try and get some anger management also.

**Prince** · 10-22-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

what exactly are all the grounds for banning anyway?

this is exactly what firestorm and myself do not want to be posted in this thread. for the record, it takes a lot to get banned from here, I/we are pretty laid back on letting crap slide around here.

please do not post anything else about being banned, why, what, how, etc.

firestorm/Brian great post, I commend you for being such a stand up guy and telling everyone in an open forum all of this and putting all blame on yourself. That alone shows great character.

bulletproof1 · 10-22-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

this is exactly what firestorm and myself do not want to be posted in this thread. for the record, it takes a lot to get banned from here, I/we are pretty laid back on letting crap slide around here.

please do not post anything else about being banned, why, what, how, etc.

firestorm/Brian great post, I commend you for being such a stand up guy and telling everyone in an open forum all of this and putting all blame on yourself. That alone shows great character.

i was just curious so i/everyone knew all the rules thats all.

Pepper · 10-22-2004, 01:10 PM

Nice post, Fire. I agree with RD, show's you're a stand up guy! Good luck to you.

Robboe · 10-22-2004, 01:29 PM

lol. Is this for real?

You went and found out all someone's personal details just the "threaten" him? Seriously, what the fuck was the point in wasting all that time? Go fuckin stomp a mudhole in his candy ass.

pmech · 10-22-2004, 01:32 PM

Cya, and good luck with training.

ALBOB · 10-22-2004, 01:50 PM

Like I said in the other thread, best of luck to you and your family. Stay cool and look me up if you're ever in Vegas.

maniclion · 10-22-2004, 02:00 PM

Damn, who's gonna dig up those old posts and comment like they are recent?
Who's gonna make me laugh when they skim over a post and take it the wrong way?

Well peace Brian

SPIKE1257 · 10-22-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniclion

Damn, who's gonna dig up those old posts and comment like they are recent?
Who's gonna make me laugh when they skim over a post and take it the wrong way?

Well peace Brian

Who's gonna have a pissing match with Max ?

**dg806** · 10-22-2004, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPIKE1257

Who's gonna have a pissing match with Max ?

Max

OceanDude · 10-22-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

you mean we are all in hell?

That's the only thing that made any logical sence to me. But where do you go once you get booted from there?

OD

Vieope · 10-22-2004, 02:29 PM

Bye fire. Good luck with everything.

gopro · 10-22-2004, 02:37 PM

Dude, you better email me and call very soon...otherwise I will gather personal info on you and come to NJ to kick your butt!!!

naturaltan · 10-22-2004, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanDude

But where do you go once you get booted from there?

OD

I'll let you know shortly.

adrien_j9 · 10-22-2004, 03:47 PM

Bye Firestorm, I'll miss you. Thanks for being so cool!

maniclion · 10-22-2004, 04:04 PM

I threatened violence on Fire once http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...3&postcount=80 (Online Competition!! Anyone Interested?) even asked for his address

BoneCrusher · 10-22-2004, 04:06 PM

To the mod's that are looking. This banishment seems to be a matter of ethics at the base level. We come here and act according to the code of conduct set forth in the site terms. Or not. Few things will get us the boot EXCEPT threat of violence.

It would be too easy to say "I was just kidding ... I didn't mean it" after a stalker attempt so this cannot be allowed as an explination from ANYONE!

Morals, good judgement, these are a required component for us to all get along here. If it is truly the feeling of the mod's invloved that Storm was really trying to become a stalker ... than later Storm. Nice meeting you ... have a nice life. The mod's who were involved on a close level are the only ones that will be able to judge this situation ... but I would offer that a temporary banishment would be a fitting punishment as I don't believe that Storm is a danger to anyone. All or none is what is being applied to the banishment rule by the wording in Storm's farewell address. A duration fitting the crimes is my request on Storm's behalf. Now the ethics come into play, where temperment is needed.

min0 lee · 10-22-2004, 07:13 PM

I am really going to miss you Fire.

Your Pal Max.

gr81 · 10-22-2004, 07:41 PM

My nigg, I feel ya bro. I shall miss ya my friend. keep yo head up and pop in at the other board with Flex and I from time to time. keep in touch and much love. sorry to hear it. You gotta get taht temper of yours under control as well.. lol

you friend, GR

oaktownboy · 10-22-2004, 07:47 PM

what fucking bullshit..u banned?? pure bullshit

PreMier · 10-22-2004, 07:47 PM

Stop PMing me! I had nothing to do with this. Brian and I had our bout, but nothing came of it.

Sorry to see you go man.

gr81 · 10-22-2004, 07:50 PM

who's PMing you P?

adrien_j9 · 10-22-2004, 07:51 PM

I'm sorry, Premier, I just think you're swell.

PreMier · 10-22-2004, 07:51 PM

Just a couple of people asking if I had something to do with this. Because of our bitching a month or so back.

10-22-2004, 12:39 PM	#1
fire Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	Firestorm Gone The original thread FIRESTORM BANNED was deleted because it turned into a why thread rather then the real purpose which was a Goodbye Thread. I'll try to answer the WHY and say my goodbyes and hopefully this will help keep it around so my friends will know I'm gone. Yes I have been banned but not because of any wrong doings by any of the Mods or members here but because of my own actions. I threatened another member here for the sole purpose of intimidating him into leaving me alone. I also threatened to find out where he lives and come after him for bringing my wife into our personnal conflicts. Does this make the other member responsible for my being banned? Or partially responsible? The answer is NO. I threatened physical harm on that individual and the only one that knew I was bluffing was ME. I even went as far as asking a MOD of all people to find out personnel info on that person and relay it to me so that member would know I wasn't fooling around with him and he had better lay off. I did not tell the Mod that information so again, my fault. The mod thought of it as anyone would that I wanted the info so I could track the guy down. That is the short version of that entire incident. I was NOT banned for this alone. The Mods also took into account previous situations involving myself, one very similar to this one. My trying to get personnel info on another NYC member again to use as an intimidation factor. In that case I gathered loads of info including that persons home address and even his gym. I never went after him as I stated I would, only let him know I could. we had since became friends. WHO these people are means NOTHING so don't ask who they are. The point is, I went WAY too far in order to make the bullshit stop. This Banning was brought on only by me and I'm the only one to blame, not the mods not Robert. Robert even attempted to have my BAN revolked but was voted down by the Mods 8-0. Even my closest personnel MOD friend here voted NOT to reinstate me and I admire him for it. He did the right thing. He thought of the Board 1st over friendship and I still consider him my VERY GOOD FRIEND and will continue my relationship with him via Email. Again who it is doesn't matter. People come here to have fun and to LEARN, not argue and be threatened. These mods are looking out for the best interest of the board and it's members and should be commended on that. Back to Robert: Robert in fact has been GREAT. He even allowed me a temporary stay (Monday Midnight) to say goodbye to everyone with MY recomendation that I do NOT post or PM anyone. Again that was MY recomeendation not Roberts. How many boards would allow this? Thanks Robert. ************************** With all that said and done and hopefully the question as to why I got myself banned answered, let me get to the real reason for this thread which is to say goodbye to everyone. Im going to miss you guys and this board. IMO your members of the best bodybuilding board on the net. If I didn't believe that I wouldn't have been here 3 years myself. I had some great conversations with you guys and gals and learned alot. I owe GOPRO more then words can express with all his knowledge and wisdom on this great sport. Thanks brother, your still the BEST. As for all my other friends here , the list is too large to mention you all by name in fear I may miss someone so I will end this by saying, I'll miss all of you very much and hopefully can continue talking after I'm gone by Email. I'm sorry to all the members here for any aggravation you may have had by reading some of my "type 1st, think second" posts. I let my temper get the best of me at times sorry to say. Good luck to you guys and with your training. I wish you the best life has to offer. Remember I'm only gone from here but not dead. Feel free to Email me anytime. don't PM me since I can't respond to them please or ask me questions on this thread. I can only view it as agreed upon by myself and Robert and PLEASE keep the conversation on goodbyes or the thread will be DELETED again. Thank you for your understanding. Sincerely, Brian (firestorm;fire) Email: firestormdownbelow@yahoo.com

10-22-2004, 12:48 PM	#3
OceanDude Well Read Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Posts: 1,853	Bummer fire... Take care. Sigh, OD "Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..." Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts...

10-22-2004, 12:51 PM	#6
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,791	Awww, sorry you're leaving fire Don't forget to bug me on yahoo! I can do it I WILL be a size 5.

10-22-2004, 01:29 PM	#11
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	lol. Is this for real? You went and found out all someone's personal details just the "threaten" him? Seriously, what the fuck was the point in wasting all that time? Go fuckin stomp a mudhole in his candy ass. Being held down by The Man

10-22-2004, 01:50 PM	#13
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,385	Like I said in the other thread, best of luck to you and your family. Stay cool and look me up if you're ever in Vegas. Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

10-22-2004, 12:46 PM	#2
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	what exactly are all the grounds for banning anyway?

10-22-2004, 12:50 PM	#5
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	you mean we are all in hell?

10-22-2004, 01:10 PM	#10
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,543	Nice post, Fire. I agree with RD, show's you're a stand up guy! Good luck to you.

10-22-2004, 01:32 PM	#12
pmech Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheeseland Posts: 574 Photos: 1	Cya, and good luck with training.

10-22-2004, 02:00 PM	#14
maniclion Cartographer of the Mind Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mens Incognita Posts: 20,437 Photos: 10	Damn, who's gonna dig up those old posts and comment like they are recent? Who's gonna make me laugh when they skim over a post and take it the wrong way? Well peace Brian "We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." Thomas Edison: In conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone

10-22-2004, 02:29 PM	#18
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Bye fire. Good luck with everything.

10-22-2004, 02:37 PM	#19
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10-22-2004, 03:47 PM	#21
adrien_j9 I "Bai lei tai" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peaceful little cottage on the lake Posts: 847 Photos: 4	Bye Firestorm, I'll miss you. Thanks for being so cool! "Our lives are not determined by what happens to us, but how we REACT to what happens; not by what life brings to us, but by the ATTITUDE we bring to life. A positive attitude causes a CHAIN REACTION of positive thoughts, events, and outcomes. It is a catalyst... a spark that creates EXTRAORDINARY RESULTS."

10-22-2004, 04:04 PM	#22
maniclion Cartographer of the Mind Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mens Incognita Posts: 20,437 Photos: 10	I threatened violence on Fire once http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...3&postcount=80 (Online Competition!! Anyone Interested?) even asked for his address "We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." Thomas Edison: In conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone

10-22-2004, 04:06 PM	#23
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	To the mod's that are looking. This banishment seems to be a matter of ethics at the base level. We come here and act according to the code of conduct set forth in the site terms. Or not. Few things will get us the boot EXCEPT threat of violence. It would be too easy to say "I was just kidding ... I didn't mean it" after a stalker attempt so this cannot be allowed as an explination from ANYONE! Morals, good judgement, these are a required component for us to all get along here. If it is truly the feeling of the mod's invloved that Storm was really trying to become a stalker ... than later Storm. Nice meeting you ... have a nice life. The mod's who were involved on a close level are the only ones that will be able to judge this situation ... but I would offer that a temporary banishment would be a fitting punishment as I don't believe that Storm is a danger to anyone. All or none is what is being applied to the banishment rule by the wording in Storm's farewell address. A duration fitting the crimes is my request on Storm's behalf. Now the ethics come into play, where temperment is needed.

10-22-2004, 07:13 PM	#24
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	I am really going to miss you Fire. Your Pal Max.

10-22-2004, 07:41 PM	#25
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	My nigg, I feel ya bro. I shall miss ya my friend. keep yo head up and pop in at the other board with Flex and I from time to time. keep in touch and much love. sorry to hear it. You gotta get taht temper of yours under control as well.. lol you friend, GR

10-22-2004, 07:47 PM	#26
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,428	what fucking bullshit..u banned?? pure bullshit Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

10-22-2004, 07:47 PM	#27
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,962 Photos: 2	Stop PMing me! I had nothing to do with this. Brian and I had our bout, but nothing came of it. Sorry to see you go man. P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

10-22-2004, 07:50 PM	#28
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	who's PMing you P?

10-22-2004, 07:51 PM	#29
adrien_j9 I "Bai lei tai" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peaceful little cottage on the lake Posts: 847 Photos: 4	I'm sorry, Premier, I just think you're swell. "Our lives are not determined by what happens to us, but how we REACT to what happens; not by what life brings to us, but by the ATTITUDE we bring to life. A positive attitude causes a CHAIN REACTION of positive thoughts, events, and outcomes. It is a catalyst... a spark that creates EXTRAORDINARY RESULTS."

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