dg806

Due to my touring schedule and my probable long distance proximity to my local polling place many times I vote an absentee ballot which I did a couple of weeks ago.

I don’t think that there are very many people who don’t believe that this election is going to be tight and I urge you to vote for the candidate of your choice. Your one vote could be crucial in this election.

Speaking of candidates, I am often accused of being an automatic vote for certain ones, which is nowhere near the truth, but thought by some people nevertheless.

So I am going to state my reasons for voting for the candidate I voted for without mentioning the name of either one.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel is best qualified to protect this country from terrorism, who will go fourth in the defense
of America and Americans regardless of what some of our so-called allies or the United Nations may think.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel will vigorously protect the five thousand year old institution of marriage being only between one man and one woman, constitutional amendment notwithstanding.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel has the most regard for the sanctity of unborn life. I do not believe that abortion is guaranteed anywhere in The Constitution. I voted for the one who signed the bill against partial birth abortion.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel will appoint judges who will pass down decisions most closely aligned with my beliefs and deep convictions. Judges who will not take it upon themselves to change laws favored by the vast majority of the citizens in this country and become the last word on the social course this country will take in the future.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel has the right philosophy on the economy. I feel that I do a better job of spending my money than the government does and being a small businessman who pays taxes on a personal scale I know that the money the government takes from me in extra taxes is money which could be passed along to my employees in the form of salaries and bonuses.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel has religious convictions close to the ones that I hold sacred.

I voted for the candidate whom I feel will be the best friend to Israel. America is the only true friend Israel has and there are
wonderful promises and dire warnings in the Holy Bible
concerning the children of Abraham. America’s future could well hang by our treatment of tiny Israel.

“He who blesses you I will bless and He who curses you I will curse.”
And if you don’t believe that take it up with God. He is the one who said it.

I’ve stated my main feelings for the way that I vote and I’m sure that some of you feel the same way and some of you feel totally different. But however you feel and whomever you want to be President, please cast a vote for somebody.

Pray for our troops.

What do you think?

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels

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MaxMirkin

One of the biggest reasons I'm voting for the same guy. (He's still a douche bag though. )

The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.

BoneCrusher

As an agnostic I can remove religion from the equasion. What is left is a choice between two terrible candidates with no real desire to actually serve our counry, only themselves and the people that put them there. For me it is a matter of damage control.

ponyboy

So you basically voted for the guy that is most like you?

(takes foot out of hornet's nest and waits patiently)

Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot.

The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

I Are Baboon

"blah blah blah God religion blah blah blah"



Seriously, who the fuck cares who Charlie Daniels voted for?

MaxMirkin

That was for BC, right? Cause then it's funny.

The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.

BoneCrusher

Max you Stalinist pig you ...

dg806

You commie yankee!

1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

redspy

ponyboy

I can picture dozens of people walking out of the polling station giving each other high fives:

"America - fuck yeah!"

Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot.

The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

MaxMirkin

Bite me, Comrade!

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The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.

milliman

DG, nice summary


the Judge thing really gets me too. Judges are supposed to apply the law as passed by the legislature. However, Liberal (activitst) judges try to write their own law without ever going thru congress. Thus you end up having a one man government writing law that is not subject to the people at all. Because (with reare exception) you can't vote a judge out of office.

Quitters never win, and winners never quit ! ! !

Who says big guys can't do pull ups ?

Wide grip, behind the neck:

. 37 @ 182 lbs
. 33 @ 198 lbs

redspy

Bush supporters consistently ill-informed about Bush's stands on the issues

Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program. Kerry supporters hold opposite beliefs on all these points.
Similarly, 75% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda, and 63% believe that clear evidence of this support has been found. Sixty percent of Bush supporters assume that this is also the conclusion of most experts, and 55% assume, incorrectly, that this was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. Here again, large majorities of Kerry supporters have exactly opposite perceptions.

These are some of the findings of a new study of the differing perceptions of Bush and Kerry supporters, conducted by the Program on International Policy Attitudes and Knowledge Networks, based on polls conducted in September and October.

Steven Kull, director of PIPA, comments, "One of the reasons that Bush supporters have these beliefs is that they perceive the Bush administration confirming them. Interestingly, this is one point on which Bush and Kerry supporters agree." Eighty-two percent of Bush supporters perceive the Bush administration as saying that Iraq had WMD (63%) or that Iraq had a major WMD program (19%). Likewise, 75% say that the Bush administration is saying Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda. Equally large majorities of Kerry supporters hear the Bush administration expressing these views--73% say the Bush administration is saying Iraq had WMD (11% a major program) and 74% that Iraq was substantially supporting al Qaeda.

Steven Kull adds, "Another reason that Bush supporters may hold to these beliefs is that they have not accepted the idea that it does not matter whether Iraq had WMD or supported al Qaeda. Here too they are in agreement with Kerry supporters." Asked whether the US should have gone to war with Iraq if US intelligence had concluded that Iraq was not making WMD or providing support to al Qaeda, 58% of Bush supporters said the US should not have, and 61% assume that in this case the President would not have. Kull continues, "To support the president and to accept that he took the US to war based on mistaken assumptions likely creates substantial cognitive dissonance, and leads Bush supporters to suppress awareness of unsettling information about prewar Iraq."

This tendency of Bush supporters to ignore dissonant information extends to other realms as well. Despite an abundance of evidence--including polls conducted by Gallup International in 38 countries, and more recently by a consortium of leading newspapers in 10 major countries--only 31% of Bush supporters recognize that the majority of people in the world oppose the US having gone to war with Iraq. Forty-two percent assume that views are evenly divided, and 26% assume that the majority approves. Among Kerry supporters, 74% assume that the majority of the world is opposed.

Similarly, 57% of Bush supporters assume that the majority of people in the world would favor Bush's reelection; 33% assumed that views are evenly divided and only 9% assumed that Kerry would be preferred. A recent poll by GlobeScan and PIPA of 35 of the major countries around the world found that in 30, a majority or plurality favored Kerry, while in just 3 Bush was favored. On average, Kerry was preferred more than two to one.

Bush supporters also have numerous misperceptions about Bush's international policy positions. Majorities incorrectly assume that Bush supports multilateral approaches to various international issues--the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (69%), the treaty banning land mines (72%)--and for addressing the problem of global warming: 51% incorrectly assume he favors US participation in the Kyoto treaty. After he denounced the International Criminal Court in the debates, the perception that he favored it dropped from 66%, but still 53% continue to believe that he favors it. An overwhelming 74% incorrectly assumes that he favors including labor and environmental standards in trade agreements. In all these cases, majorities of Bush supporters favor the positions they impute to Bush. Kerry supporters are much more accurate in their perceptions of his positions on these issues.

"The roots of the Bush supporters' resistance to information," according to Steven Kull, "very likely lie in the traumatic experience of 9/11 and equally in the near pitch-perfect leadership that President Bush showed in its immediate wake. This appears to have created a powerful bond between Bush and his supporters--and an idealized image of the President that makes it difficult for his supporters to imagine that he could have made incorrect judgments before the war, that world public opinion could be critical of his policies or that the President could hold foreign policy positions that are at odds with his supporters."

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pr...0_21_04.html#1

BoneCrusher

You do find interesting data Redspy ...

milliman

Redspy,

We supporters of Bush may not know all of his positions. This is true.
As a hard working American, we can not read every issue and see every debate. And what is said at debates is many times grandstanding anyhow.
We have to rely a the general party platform too.

some of the major differences that come to mind are:
(Bush policy is listed first, Kerry second)

a) War on terror, (pre-emptive or reactive)
b) smaller or bigger government
c) right to own a gun or not (Dems think the 2nd amendment is bunk)
d) Less taxes or more taxes
e) Constitutional judges or activist judges
f) Private health care or Socialized medicine
g) Cheap gas or expensive alternatives
h) Partial birth abortion ? Legal for rape or life of mom or for any reason.

But let me ask a few questions.

1) Are you going vote for a president who makes decisions based on world
opinion, or based on what is best for our country ?

especially when the world opinion (France, Germany, Russia and China)
was bought off by Saddam thru the oil money he was giving them.
(this was also in the Dolfer report)

2) We know Saddam paid the families of dead suicide bombers (FACT).
So if Al Qaeda said they could detonate a nuke into the US, how much
money do you think he would advance to them to do it ?

Do you think he would think twice about it ? Or would
he give them a bonus if they could severely cripple us.
That would happen if they could shut down the electric grid.

3) How can you know what Kerry stands for when it changes each day
based on the people he is talking too ?

Agree or not, you know where Bush stands on stuff.


Those are just some thoughts to ponder.
I have to get back to work now.

Quitters never win, and winners never quit ! ! !

Who says big guys can't do pull ups ?

Wide grip, behind the neck:

. 37 @ 182 lbs
. 33 @ 198 lbs

redspy

I'm voting for who I believe will best serve this country, somebody who believes in social justice, somebody who manages the economy well and someone who goes to war when it's essential. I'm not supporting someone who panders to Corporate America at the expense of its citizens


So what if Saddam funded suicide bombers in Israel? Although it's wrong it doesn't threaten the safety of the US. Our armed forces should be used to protect the nation, not implement regime change because a bunch of revolutionary Neocons think it's a good idea. You mention this because it's your one opportunity to link terrorism with Iraq. All other ties have been dismissed.

Quit the paranoid thoughts, Iraq wasn't a threat to US national security. Stop trying to justify an unjust war. Focus your mind on real threats.

During the Bush Administration, North Korea quadrupled its suspected nuclear arsenal from two to eight weapons.

Iran is also a growing threat. What has Bush done about that?


Okay, Bush sees the world in Balck and White. He dismisses scientific facts and intelligence. The world is a complex place, some things are gray areas, that's a fact of life.

Besides, the old flip-flop argument is weak. Bush is has made many flip-flops. Here's 50 Bush flip-flops for a starter.

redspy

On the subject of the Iraq war this devastating report by Carl Levin regarding the administration’s deliberate manipulation of the intelligence it received. Think about this before your next 'pre-emptive' war.

milliman

I guess we agree to disagree.
People came to different conclusions on OJ too based on the same evidence. I see the rich guy (from his oil money) willing to fund anyone to blow us up if possible. You do not. We disagree


Are you suggesting we attack them too ?
I see this differently. North Korea is not tied to Al Qaeda and they are not like fanatical Islamic terrorists. I perceive them similar to Russia. They are a potential threat, but they have shown restraint since they would get blown to smithereens too. Terrorists look forward to getting blown up because they are supposed to finally get 70 virgins.

Bush is also trying the diplomacy avenue with North Korea.

Wouldn't you rather have experienced women who know what to do ?


I am glad I do not need to make the decisions.

What would you do about them ?



Red, my hat is off to you.
You are the master at finding all this stuff, true or not.

Quitters never win, and winners never quit ! ! !

Who says big guys can't do pull ups ?

Wide grip, behind the neck:

. 37 @ 182 lbs
. 33 @ 198 lbs

milliman

Ps Red,

Are you a one issue guy. I did not see you address these subjects.

some of the major differences that come to mind are:
(Bush policy is listed first, Kerry second)

a) War on terror, (pre-emptive or reactive)
b) smaller or bigger government
c) right to own a gun or not (Dems think the 2nd amendment is bunk)
d) Less taxes or more taxes
e) Constitutional judges or activist judges
f) Private health care or Socialized medicine
g) Cheap gas or expensive alternatives
h) Partial birth abortion ? Legal for rape or life of mom or for any reason.

Quitters never win, and winners never quit ! ! !

Who says big guys can't do pull ups ?

Wide grip, behind the neck:

. 37 @ 182 lbs
. 33 @ 198 lbs

Stickboy

Here's an interesting tidbit:


Is Bush Smarter Than Kerry?
Bush may well be smarter than Kerry.

Most significantly, at the age of 22, both men took the IQ-type tests of candidate military officers. (The U.S. which has studied to intelligence testing.)

...

The two tests aren't perfectly comparable. But they provide no evidence that Kerry is smarter. If anything, Bush is smarter than Kerry.

What is amazing about Steve's article is that it attracted the attention of the New York Times. Our liberal elites try to claim that IQ doesn't matter and profess to believe a sort of Lysenkoist view where intelligence is caused almost entirely by the environment. They entirely ignore the role of natural selection in order to make a place for all environment all the time (and this from people who like to look down on fundamentalist Christians for denying Darwinism - human minds can sustain amazing internal contradictions).

Yet deep down the liberals all know that most of the differences between people in intellectual ability are inherited and they know that intelligence matters a great deal. So many more liberals are reading Steve's article than are writing about it. Still, the Grey Lady stepped up to the plate, unable to resist. John Tierney of the New York Times distills out the basic conclusions of Steve's analysis of the intelligence of George W. Bush and John Kerry.

Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.


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Chain Link

Its not just rumor though. I believe 100% that every martyr of Allah has the company of at LEAST 70 virgins right now.
Granted, They're other virgin men who blew their dumbasses up; but that s'ok with me, as long as we're cleaning out the gene pool.

tomas101

fuck Israel!!! but on another note, i'm voting for the other guy b/c every thing dg stands for i guess i am not...so instead of another thread heres mine..

-the other guy cant do any worse than bush can in protecting us, maybe even bring some more alliances around
-i dont care who anyone marries, it doesnt affect me in any way
-for the guy who thinks you should have a choice
-dont want judges who are close to the bush family and ultra conservative
-making less money than ever, so i will give the other guy a chance
-again i'm not a big fan of isreal, they cause a lot of their own problems

TOMAS!!!

camarosuper6

Damn I cant wait till this election is over.

"Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

Big Smoothy

Thanks. We're just dying to know....

Both candidates have done a terrible job. The border between Mexico and Canada is basically open. Sound like good protection?

This is such an irrelevant issue, it should have never been raised. Who cares? And more importantly: who are you to judge? Twat.

I wish you mom would have gotten one.

Oh, believe you. No doubt about that.

The Bush tax-cut was a joke. It was a tease.

What turd do you go to on Sunday?

Israel deserves all of the bad that happens to it. We should not even be speaking with them.

A very stupid statement.

Feel different? Oh, just a little.

Thank god you aren't running for office.

No thanks.

I think you know by now.

Military men are dumb, stupid animals, to be used as pawns for foreign policy
– Henry Kissinger (January-February 2003 edition of Eagle Newsletter)

dg806

Translation...........
somebody who believes in social justice.....................Someone who will make up rules and laws as they go to serve their own agenda ignoring the constituion.

somebody who manages the economy well and someone who goes to war when it's essential..................Raise taxes to cover all his new programs and lets the United Nations control our policy.

I'm not supporting someone who panders to Corporate America at the expense of its citizens........................Ignore the businesses that keep America spending and growing and let it go down the tube.

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Dale Mabry

[quote=Stickboy]

Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.
[quote]


My IQ is higher than both of them, that doesn't make me smarter.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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DFINEST

[quote=Dale Mabry][quote=Stickboy]

Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.


I'm laughing at WHAT you've said DM,
not at the fact that your IQ is higher than Bush's or Kerry's...


Nov 3rd is going to feel like the day after Boston won the World Series,
it's finally over!

Drama is the result of an attempt
to find wholeness & success
in the midst of forces that have been
birthed in chaos and nurtured in confusion.
-- No More Drama

Rocky_Road

LIke, I'm, like voting for like, the best like, looking one? K?
heeheeheehee

Sheila Corl

MaxMirkin

Dale, the 180 you got on your SAT's doesn't really translate point-for-point to your IQ.

The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.

MaxMirkin

Thanks babe, but I'm not even running.

The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.