Thread: Political Capital

Originally Posted by Vieope

What if I cover the whole sun with the PV system and bring a cable from out of space to earth?
Nah, OD, you don´t know what you are talking about.

Just hold on. The real answer is going to be fusion reactors. This will be possible probably by 2020 and will be virtually an unlimited form of energy that is produced from heavy water fuel (deuterium) which is easy to get from sea water and a process which fuses atoms like in a fusion bomb (but controllable and hard to sustain).

I still say that solar will not be viable for technical and business reasons but may be able to account for 10-15% of total national baseline need. Power companies need to get 30 years out of their investments in conventional fuel plants before they will consider replacing them. I think it would be more practical to tap in to shale oil and coal systems to buy us time (easily 50 years of reserves) to get to fusion.

OD

Originally Posted by OceanDude

water fuel (deuterium)
OD

Deuterium explodes in contact with water, doesn´t it?

Originally Posted by Vieope

Deuterium explodes in contact with water, doesn´t it?

Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen where the nucleus contains both a proton and one neutron. Deuterium oxide is more commonly called heavy water. Deuterium is a minor component of all the hydrogen in us and around us. It is apparently harmless, varying in surface water from 0.0130% in arctic surface water to 0.0162% in the Nile in Egypt—the latter, an effect of naturally occurring fractional distillation. It is rare on a percentage of total water but it only takes a small amount to produce enormous energy.

OD

Originally Posted by OceanDude

Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen where the nucleus contains both a proton and one neutron. Deuterium oxide is more commonly called heavy water. Deuterium is a minor component of all the hydrogen in us and around us. It is apparently harmless, varying in surface water from 0.0130% in arctic surface water to 0.0162% in the Nile in Egypt—the latter, an effect of naturally occurring fractional distillation. It is rare on a percentage of total water but it only takes a small amount to produce enormous energy.

OD

I didn´t know that, that is pretty nice.
Why we don´t use it yet?

Originally Posted by Vieope

I didn´t know that, that is pretty nice.
Why we don´t use it yet?

Because Iraq doesn't have Deuterium.

Yeah

the current working or maynot be working model uses palladium a rare metal, is there enough? Second they say the process gives off helium does that mean we'll all be talking like Mickey Mouse? Until they start shipping it to me to sell in my warehouse I'll stick with harnessing power from the Fusion Reactor we all rely on already. Face it the Sun is powering you right now from the vegetables you eat to the vegetable eating meat that you eat. That Gas you're burning in your car it used to be a living plankton either phyto living off of the Sun or Zoo living off of the Phyto that lived off of the Sun, so therefore it is stored solar energy coal too.

Solar is not the only answer but it will factor in with wind, wave, bio, Geothermal etc. We should have made the switch a long time ago, but the forces that be didn't want to stir a ruckus and cause inconvienence in our fossil fuel addicted way of life.

Anyones electric bills go up recently?

We must get away from this reliance on fossil fuel sources. Future generations will spit on our graves for the selfish decisions we have made since the dawn of Industrialization.................Uncle Rich

See I knew I could dig up something we agreed on.

We would probably agree on a great deal if you didn't insist on being a jag-off 99% of the time. There was a time when I actually respected you. As far as the environment goes we probably agree near 100%. On social injustice we probably agree on 90% of stuff. I just insist on personal responsibility being part of the equation.

I am not blind to corporate greed, shitbird politicians,a ravaged middle class, and a system geared toward protecting the rich and connected. The real difference between me and you tho manlicon is Ive been ass deep in it for 22 years. Ive worked a ghetto for most of that time and I'd be willing to bet Ive saved more lives, helped more people, caged more violent criminals, and have been a symbol of equality for all the peoples Ive come into contact with, then the rest of this forum combined.

So before you babble that racist crap maybe ponder that first before you type. If you cant then this will be the last "normal" conversation we ever have.................................Rich

Originally Posted by Rich46yo

So before you babble that racist crap maybe ponder that first before you type. If you cant then this will be the last "normal" conversation we ever have.................................Rich

Theres a difference between "hero" and some schmuck who simply wants to live. Now those passengers who attack those camel jockeys in that hijacked plane on 9/11, that crash in P.A.? Those were heros! They knew they were going to die but they didnt want thousands of other Americans to die too..........Uncle Rich

All I do is caricatured satire on some of your tirades that uncannily sound like Archie Bunker.