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    Best Vehicle for Snow

    With my new job I need to be onsite w/in 30min when alarms go off (which happens pretty frequently). With winter here I need a better car for driving in the snow. What do ya'll recommend for good vehicles?
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    The best in snow would be an AWD(all wheel drive) vehicle. Are you looking for a new vehicle, or used?

    The older(97-01?) Explorer with a V8 is an AWD, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and most Subaru's.
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    What would make a car better then another for snow? Traction? Anything 4x4 off road then.

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    Probably used. I'm going to Carmax. I want something cool too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieope
    What would make a car better then another for snow? Traction? Anything 4x4 off road then.
    Like I said, AWD. Traction makes a huge difference too. You want a tire with a large 'footprint'(aka: contact patch). For instance, I have a mud terrain tire.. that has big lugs. It sucks in the snow, because not much of the tire touches the road. A good A/T tire would work best, like the Bridgestone dueler revo, or BFG A/T TKO.
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    Oh.. the Mercury Mountaineer is also AWD. Just remember.. Because you can go faster in snow than a car, doesnt mean you can stop faster.
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    I always found amusing to see them using chains in tires. Does that really do something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    Oh.. the Mercury Mountaineer is also AWD. Just remember.. Because you can go faster in snow than a car, doesnt mean you can stop faster.
    http://www.carmax.com/dyn/factsheet/factsheet.aspx
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    I'm used to driving in snow living in northern sweden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieope
    I always found amusing to see them using chains in tires. Does that really do something?

    Its mostly used on 2WD vehicles. They are good to have in really deep snow/mud areas. Most peoples tires dont self clean well(most have A/T tires), so the treads get clogged up and it makes it a slick.
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    Says the vehicle is no longer in the inventory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    Says the vehicle is no longer in the inventory?
    Let's try this one- http://www.carmax.com/dyn/factsheet/factsheet.aspx
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    Nevermind. Guess you can't link to the cars.
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    Yea, same thing. Guess you cant link it
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    I can´t understand exactly what is a non-AWD vehicle.
    We still use only wheels around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieope

    I can´t understand exactly what is a non-AWD vehicle.
    We still use only wheels around here.
    AWD is when ALL 4 wheels turn. Most of the power goes to the rear wheels, but some goes to the front(70%R-30%F). And when one tire starts to slip, the others get more power transfered to them.

    You probably have two wheel drive vehicles, where wither the front or rear wheels turn only. AWD is different than 4wheel drive, because you cant turn AWD off.
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    Audi 4000s quattro. Hands DOWN.

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    BTW, you can individual decide to lock the the front, center and rear diffs from inside of the car
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    Either one of these would work. lol




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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    Like I said, AWD. Traction makes a huge difference too. You want a tire with a large 'footprint'(aka: contact patch). For instance, I have a mud terrain tire.. that has big lugs. It sucks in the snow, because not much of the tire touches the road. A good A/T tire would work best, like the Bridgestone dueler revo, or BFG A/T TKO.
    Although you are correct that traction makes a difference, you want less rubber touching the road per pound for more traction. The more PSI the better. So if you have a 200 lb vehicle with 32sqin per tire touching, it would have less traction than one with 20sqin touching. A true mud tire, with the air dropped a little is good. I however usually have Hockapelitta snowtires. There is a point of diminishing returns though.

    My suggestion. Buy a Jeep Wrangler with a 6 cyl. They go anywhere, fit in tighter spaces, go in the snow with no problem and you can have fun trick them out. They are a little light, but with some sandbags in the back, they are great. Been in the cold and snow all my life, and this is the best rig I have ever had. I bought it to have fun and trick it out. I didn't know it was going to be my vehicle of choice with so many benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    AWD is when ALL 4 wheels turn. Most of the power goes to the rear wheels, but some goes to the front(70%R-30%F). And when one tire starts to slip, the others get more power transfered to them.

    You probably have two wheel drive vehicles, where wither the front or rear wheels turn only. AWD is different than 4wheel drive, because you cant turn AWD off.
    Incorrect, AWD means "all wheels drive" although with not the same amount of force. A 4WD only has two tires moving (unless you have a posi traction). Most vehicles only have one tire driving (yes this is true). In a 4WD, one front and one rear drive unless one slips, then it stops driving and another, usually the opposite and opposing tire starts spinning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock4832
    With my new job I need to be onsite w/in 30min when alarms go off (which happens pretty frequently). With winter here I need a better car for driving in the snow. What do ya'll recommend for good vehicles?
    I've got a 2004 F-150 4x4 FX4 and it seems to do extremely well in the snow. They also have some incredible buys right now on these trucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cappo5150
    Either one of these would work. lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
    Incorrect, AWD means "all wheels drive" although with not the same amount of force. A 4WD only has two tires moving (unless you have a posi traction). Most vehicles only have one tire driving (yes this is true). In a 4WD, one front and one rear drive unless one slips, then it stops driving and another, usually the opposite and opposing tire starts spinning.
    Thats what I said.. Most of the power is transfered to the rear wheels, and the rest to the front. 4WD is just that, 4 wheel drive. But due to open diffs, if a tire is lifted, or it slips, the other one will not turn.. making it like you stated 2wd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
    Although you are correct that traction makes a difference, you want less rubber touching the road per pound for more traction. The more PSI the better. So if you have a 200 lb vehicle with 32sqin per tire touching, it would have less traction than one with 20sqin touching. A true mud tire, with the air dropped a little is good. I however usually have Hockapelitta snowtires. There is a point of diminishing returns though.
    WTF are you arguing? You dont want less rubber touching the road.. thats asanine. The bigger the contact patch, the more traction/stopping power the vehicle will have. Im running the procomp mud terrains(looks like bfg) and with the lugs only touching the road, they are shit! My tire is a 33/12.50
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
    Although you are correct that traction makes a difference, you want less rubber touching the road per pound for more traction. The more PSI the better. So if you have a 200 lb vehicle with 32sqin per tire touching, it would have less traction than one with 20sqin touching. A true mud tire, with the air dropped a little is good. I however usually have Hockapelitta snowtires. There is a point of diminishing returns though.

    My suggestion. Buy a Jeep Wrangler with a 6 cyl. They go anywhere, fit in tighter spaces, go in the snow with no problem and you can have fun trick them out. They are a little light, but with some sandbags in the back, they are great. Been in the cold and snow all my life, and this is the best rig I have ever had. I bought it to have fun and trick it out. I didn't know it was going to be my vehicle of choice with so many benefits.
    I absolutely agree on the Jeep. For anywhere driving Mtn is right up there. You DO need to set it up well for your driving conditions though. I might not agree with the tire width theory you put out there though bro. Wider tires sink less so they rut out less. A wide deep tread on a 4WD with solid independent suspension will go anywhere.

    Most AWD cars do not have independent suspension and sport a very light front differential for the simple fact that the unit is seldom used. Factor in a very weak electronically controlled transfer case prone to failure under constant use in heavy conditions and you could be looking at some unhappy days. Go with a vehicle meant to be used in heavy weather with a proven track record or you will be calling roadside rescue your own self. Most people can’t afford a Hummer so the next best bet is a good old military tested Jeep.

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