MS Anti-Spyware beta

**Mudge** · 01-10-2005, 02:22 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

cappo5150 · 01-10-2005, 02:52 PM

Thanks. I've installed it, and found stuff that Adaware SE couldnt even find.

Robboe · 01-11-2005, 07:01 AM

Aren't MS usually the source of most spyware anyway?

Isn't that like using petrol to extinguish fire?

DOMS · 01-11-2005, 07:27 AM

No, MS isn't the source of any spyware (DRM is another matter). But I wouldn't trust them for the same reason that I don't trust the Yahoo! spyware remover. If you make spyware and are business partner of Yahoo!, the Yahoo! spyware remover doesn't mark your spyware for removal.

BoneCrusher · 01-11-2005, 12:02 PM

Thanks Mudge.

BoneCrusher · 01-11-2005, 02:20 PM

Update on this after installation and use.

You should know ahead of time this program will look your OS over to see if your operating system is legit. If you’ve used a key generator to get your pirated copy of windows to run be aware that this key will be subjected to a verification process with Microsoft. As is typical with Microsoft nothing is ever as it seems ...

It appears that this program from Microsoft tried to report a few things I had downloaded that were not spyware. I used Morpheus for some games such as Civilization III and Age Of Empires. This program tried to report those as well as a few other downloads of the same type ...

If you use P2P programs then disable the option that allows this program to phone home and tell on you. Keep your firewall set on high and observe ALL outbound traffic while this thing runs.

That said I like this program ... it did catch some stuff that was missed by other programs. It has a very user friendly GUI. The reports are detailed and also simple to work with.

As with everything from Microsoft you just need to be observant. I suspect that MS has an alterior motive for releasing a free spyware/adware detection program ... they never do things for ultrueistic reasons. I've uninstalled it and am going with other options because I believe that this program is designed to spy on my me as well as catch spyware/adware. Yes it's a beta and most likely will be followed by the retail version but this is a very WIDE beta test. Millions wide I imagine ... If you are completely legit in whatever you are doing with software and downloads then this program may be good stuff. However ... if you are in the gray areas then be afraid.

**Prince** · 01-11-2005, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

pain in the ass to download it!

cappo5150 · 01-11-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Update on this after installation and use.

You should know ahead of time this program will look your OS over to see if your operating system is legit. If you’ve used a key generator to get your pirated copy of windows to run be aware that this key will be subjected to a verification process with Microsoft.

They have an option to not validate license.

busyLivin · 01-11-2005, 05:58 PM

oh well, I like Micro$oft.

Stu · 01-11-2005, 06:03 PM

to be honest i have lost all faith in microsoft since the release of xp i normally use unix - lot less chance of getting spyware and viruses

busyLivin · 01-11-2005, 06:05 PM

hmm, i think xp pro is great.

I have the Media Center Edition 2005 on the way

JJJ · 01-11-2005, 10:14 PM

"No, do not validate Windows at this time, but take me to the download."

Did some of you miss this option?

Today (tuesday) they also released a worthless "antivirus program" w/o real time scanning. If you already have a virus program the one from microsoft is useless, if you dont have one, the lack of real time scanning makes it a poor option.

http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

cappo5150 · 01-11-2005, 10:59 PM

i'm just glad that MS is finally stepping up to the plate to help get rid of all this internet garbage.

**Prince** · 01-11-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappo5150

They have an option to not validate license.

I know, that is what I had to do, just did not see the point of jumping thru hoops to download it, in fact it should just be included with XP like the Firewall is.

PreMier · 01-12-2005, 12:01 AM

I installed, and ran.. it found nothing. Ran adaware se, and found 103 objects.

LAM · 01-12-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Aren't MS usually the source of most spyware anyway?

Isn't that like using petrol to extinguish fire?

the whole problem with the Windows OS is Internet Explorer. IE is a giant sive due to the complexity of the code and how shoty the application was developed.

the best thing you can do is to install LitePC on your system then install the Windows OS. None of the code used for IE is installed on your sytem then you use a 3rd party browser like Mozilla Firefox, or you can run Unix...

camarosuper6 · 01-12-2005, 03:41 AM

man it fuqqed up my PC.... had to take it to the shop the other day

**dg806** · 01-12-2005, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

I've uninstalled it and am going with other options because I believe that this program is designed to spy on my me as well as catch spyware/adware.

You just think you have it uninstalled. I will bet you it's still there.

LAM · 01-12-2005, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Update on this after installation and use.

You should know ahead of time this program will look your OS over to see if your operating system is legit. If you’ve used a key generator to get your pirated copy of windows to run be aware that this key will be subjected to a verification process with Microsoft. As is typical with Microsoft nothing is ever as it seems ...

It appears that this program from Microsoft tried to report a few things I had downloaded that were not spyware. I used Morpheus for some games such as Civilization III and Age Of Empires. This program tried to report those as well as a few other downloads of the same type ...

If you use P2P programs then disable the option that allows this program to phone home and tell on you. Keep your firewall set on high and observe ALL outbound traffic while this thing runs.

That said I like this program ... it did catch some stuff that was missed by other programs. It has a very user friendly GUI. The reports are detailed and also simple to work with.

As with everything from Microsoft you just need to be observant. I suspect that MS has an alterior motive for releasing a free spyware/adware detection program ... they never do things for ultrueistic reasons. I've uninstalled it and am going with other options because I believe that this program is designed to spy on my me as well as catch spyware/adware. Yes it's a beta and most likely will be followed by the retail version but this is a very WIDE beta test. Millions wide I imagine ... If you are completely legit in whatever you are doing with software and downloads then this program may be good stuff. However ... if you are in the gray areas then be afraid.

lol ..you are paranoid !

MS would not benefit from using it's own spyware as it is illegal per FCC regs. I highly doubt that MS is looking to get into a billion dollar class action lawsuit with it's users..

01-10-2005, 02:22 PM	#1
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01-11-2005, 07:01 AM	#3
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Aren't MS usually the source of most spyware anyway? Isn't that like using petrol to extinguish fire?
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01-11-2005, 02:20 PM	#6
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,580	Update on this after installation and use. You should know ahead of time this program will look your OS over to see if your operating system is legit. If you’ve used a key generator to get your pirated copy of windows to run be aware that this key will be subjected to a verification process with Microsoft. As is typical with Microsoft nothing is ever as it seems ... It appears that this program from Microsoft tried to report a few things I had downloaded that were not spyware. I used Morpheus for some games such as Civilization III and Age Of Empires. This program tried to report those as well as a few other downloads of the same type ... If you use P2P programs then disable the option that allows this program to phone home and tell on you. Keep your firewall set on high and observe ALL outbound traffic while this thing runs. That said I like this program ... it did catch some stuff that was missed by other programs. It has a very user friendly GUI. The reports are detailed and also simple to work with. As with everything from Microsoft you just need to be observant. I suspect that MS has an alterior motive for releasing a free spyware/adware detection program ... they never do things for ultrueistic reasons. I've uninstalled it and am going with other options because I believe that this program is designed to spy on my me as well as catch spyware/adware. Yes it's a beta and most likely will be followed by the retail version but this is a very WIDE beta test. Millions wide I imagine ... If you are completely legit in whatever you are doing with software and downloads then this program may be good stuff. However ... if you are in the gray areas then be afraid. Last edited by BoneCrusher : 01-11-2005 at 02:54 PM.

01-11-2005, 05:58 PM	#9
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01-11-2005, 06:05 PM	#11
busyLivin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USSA Posts: 3,718	hmm, i think xp pro is great. I have the Media Center Edition 2005 on the way
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01-10-2005, 02:52 PM	#2
cappo5150 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 2,318 Photos: 1	Thanks. I've installed it, and found stuff that Adaware SE couldnt even find.

01-11-2005, 07:27 AM	#4
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,728 Photos: 6	No, MS isn't the source of any spyware (DRM is another matter). But I wouldn't trust them for the same reason that I don't trust the Yahoo! spyware remover. If you make spyware and are business partner of Yahoo!, the Yahoo! spyware remover doesn't mark your spyware for removal.

01-11-2005, 12:02 PM	#5
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,580	Thanks Mudge.

01-11-2005, 06:03 PM	#10
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	to be honest i have lost all faith in microsoft since the release of xp i normally use unix - lot less chance of getting spyware and viruses

01-11-2005, 10:14 PM	#12
JJJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Under your bed Posts: 1,146	"No, do not validate Windows at this time, but take me to the download." Did some of you miss this option? Today (tuesday) they also released a worthless "antivirus program" w/o real time scanning. If you already have a virus program the one from microsoft is useless, if you dont have one, the lack of real time scanning makes it a poor option. http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

01-11-2005, 10:59 PM	#13
cappo5150 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 2,318 Photos: 1	i'm just glad that MS is finally stepping up to the plate to help get rid of all this internet garbage.

01-12-2005, 12:01 AM	#15
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01-12-2005, 03:41 AM	#17
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