What is fire?

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:22 PM

It is not liquid, it is not solid or gas, not even plasma. It does exist but in what state of matter?

Sorry but this is bothering me for a few days, I know you would say that I am bothering you for a few days more than that but I kind of like you all.

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 04:26 PM

It's solidic gas in a plasmatic liquidity.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:27 PM

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It's solidic gas in a plasmatic liquidity.

So can I freeze it?

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 04:28 PM

or maybe it's a gaseous liquid emmiting the properties of solidified plasma?

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:29 PM

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or maybe it's a gaseous liquid emmiting the properties of solidified plasma?

I don´t know, I looked for fire physics and I can´t find it anywhere. Books or the internet.

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 04:30 PM

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So can I freeze it?

Can you take a picture of it?

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:33 PM

Well it is something but it seems all the same. I know that some substances change the color of fire but what is it? Is it rapid transformation of solid to gas? What happens to fire after it is burned? Where does it go?

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

Can you take a picture of it?

Ice cube of fire? Sure

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 04:39 PM

Fire is glowing gas.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

Fire is glowing gas.

Hey I like that definition.
Have you ever noticed it is the only type of matter that doesn´t follow the laws of gravity? It always go up. It should go down since there are more oxygen on lower altitudes and the gravity thing.

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 04:57 PM

Fire is not matter, it's a state of matter, heated gases, a chemical change. Fire goes to the area of lower pressure.

http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...collection.htm in space it forms a sphere on a candle wick.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

Fire is not matter, it's a state of matter, heated gases, a chemical change. Fire goes to the area of lower pressure.

http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...collection.htm in space it forms a sphere on a candle wick.

That is pretty neat about fire in microgravity. Did you see how nice is this video?
http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...ere1_broad.wmv

Thanks

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:16 PM

Look how people with no sex life get excited easily.

http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...r_vid_only.wmv

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vieope

Look how people with no sex life get excited easily.

http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...r_vid_only.wmv

OOOOhhhh that's interestin'.....Loook look look look, See how it flares out every little bit?

It always puzzled me how we call blue a cool color and orange a warm color when it comes to fire the opposite is blue is hotter than orange.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:31 PM

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It always puzzled me how we call blue a cool color and orange a warm color when it comes to fire the opposite is blue is hotter than orange.

Are you sure? Why the Sun is not blue then?

maniclion · 01-18-2005, 05:35 PM

The color of stars largely depends on their temperature. The amount of light they emit is proportional to the fourth power of their temperatures ranging from about 5,432 degrees to over 54,032 degrees! Stars with lower temperatures emit mostly long wavelength of light and appear reddish. Those with much higher temperatures emit more short wavelengths and appear blue.

Our Sun has a surface temperature of 5780 K, which corresponds to a peak wavelength of 500 nm, a green-blue color (we see it yellow because of the Earth's atmosphere). Some stars, called white dwarfs, are the end of their lives and can reach temperatures of 100,000 K.

Little Wing · 01-18-2005, 05:38 PM

fire is what happens when really good music chases away blue....

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

The color of stars largely depends on their temperature.

I thought it was because of what chemicals they were made.

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(we see it yellow because of the Earth's atmosphere)

I don´t agree with that part though since I have seen many pictures from Hubble and other space telescopes and it is yellow.
One interesting question that always puzzled me but actually I never looked into it is how does the Sun always burn? It is always burning for billions of years, in order for something to burn, oxygen must exist. Where does all this oxygen come from?

Little Wing · 01-18-2005, 05:51 PM

this is a really good thread.... keep it going.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:52 PM

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this is a really good thread.... keep it going.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:53 PM

Do you see Manic? The Sun ( ) is laughing at you because you can´t figure out the answer.

Little Wing · 01-18-2005, 05:55 PM

maybe things that are beyond reason lay in the hands of gods....

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 05:57 PM

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maybe things that are beyond reason lay in the hands of gods....

Little Wing · 01-18-2005, 06:02 PM

blue bunny god

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 06:02 PM

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I was trying to make a nice smile temple of the Sun, making fun of the old relatives of Manic that lived in Hawai and thought that the Sun was God. I guess it didn´t come out very obvious.

Vieope · 01-18-2005, 06:06 PM

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blue bunny god

So I am batbunny god at night.

Little Wing · 01-18-2005, 06:09 PM

hmmm all gods eventually end up portrayed on the root of all evil. how ironic.

01-18-2005, 04:22 PM	#1
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,863 Photos: 10	What is fire? It is not liquid, it is not solid or gas, not even plasma. It does exist but in what state of matter? Sorry but this is bothering me for a few days, I know you would say that I am bothering you for a few days more than that but I kind of like you all.
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01-18-2005, 04:33 PM	#7
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,863 Photos: 10	Well it is something but it seems all the same. I know that some substances change the color of fire but what is it? Is it rapid transformation of solid to gas? What happens to fire after it is burned? Where does it go?
	FURtherness

01-18-2005, 05:16 PM	#13
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,863 Photos: 10	Look how people with no sex life get excited easily. http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...r_vid_only.wmv
	FURtherness

01-18-2005, 05:53 PM	#21
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,863 Photos: 10	Do you see Manic? The Sun ( ) is laughing at you because you can´t figure out the answer.
	FURtherness

01-18-2005, 04:26 PM	#2
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,394 Photos: 10	It's solidic gas in a plasmatic liquidity.

01-18-2005, 04:28 PM	#4
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,394 Photos: 10	or maybe it's a gaseous liquid emmiting the properties of solidified plasma?

01-18-2005, 04:39 PM	#9
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,394 Photos: 10	Fire is glowing gas.

01-18-2005, 04:57 PM	#11
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,394 Photos: 10	Fire is not matter, it's a state of matter, heated gases, a chemical change. Fire goes to the area of lower pressure. http://microgravity.grc.nasa.gov/com...collection.htm in space it forms a sphere on a candle wick.

01-18-2005, 05:35 PM	#16
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,394 Photos: 10	The color of stars largely depends on their temperature. The amount of light they emit is proportional to the fourth power of their temperatures ranging from about 5,432 degrees to over 54,032 degrees! Stars with lower temperatures emit mostly long wavelength of light and appear reddish. Those with much higher temperatures emit more short wavelengths and appear blue. Our Sun has a surface temperature of 5780 K, which corresponds to a peak wavelength of 500 nm, a green-blue color (we see it yellow because of the Earth's atmosphere). Some stars, called white dwarfs, are the end of their lives and can reach temperatures of 100,000 K.

01-18-2005, 05:38 PM	#17
Little Wing SEMPER~FIDELIS Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 21,685 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 191	fire is what happens when really good music chases away blue....

01-18-2005, 05:51 PM	#19
Little Wing SEMPER~FIDELIS Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 21,685 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 191	this is a really good thread.... keep it going.

01-18-2005, 05:55 PM	#22
Little Wing SEMPER~FIDELIS Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 21,685 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 191	maybe things that are beyond reason lay in the hands of gods....

01-18-2005, 06:02 PM	#24
Little Wing SEMPER~FIDELIS Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 21,685 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 191	blue bunny god

01-18-2005, 06:09 PM	#27
Little Wing SEMPER~FIDELIS Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 21,685 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 191	hmmm all gods eventually end up portrayed on the root of all evil. how ironic.