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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

John H, did you ever go to college? You have some weird stupid view about college that you probably learned from your pedophile idol Dr. Kinsey. You always tell me to learn EVERYTHING and all aspects from my professors and bullshit, but if you knew anything about college, or science majors like me and bio-chem, you would know professors don't give a shit about the students. The physics professor I have now can barely speak english, and makes fun of us for not understanding the laws of inelastic collisions. College isn't some hippie commune where we all sit in a circle indian style talking about how pretty flowers are and how it feels great to finally be open minded and free of the "evils and bigotry" of religion and all that other bullshit you preach. It's about weeding out the slackers, and finding out who actually wants a degree in chemistry, or biology or whatever. To tell you the truth, I don't have time to sit around and try to be "open-minded" and think about the stupid shit you constantly preach because im always doing 1 of 4 things, studying, in class, at work, or lifting, and those occupy all my time. Having an open mind won't get you anywhere in college John H. The thing that determines your success in college is determination, willing to sacrifice, and how much you want a degree. This stuff may not be true for all majors, but I can tell you first hand that it is for chemistry majors. So when you tell me having an "open mind" is essential for college and when you ask "Oh, I thought you were in college?" and all that other bullshit, remember that between your open mind and my chemistry degree, ill take my degree any day because in the real world who gives a fuck about your so called open mind?

Gococks,

In EVERY "institution" of "higher learning" you will have good and bad with regard to teachers or professors - don't you remember high school for example. I sure do. I remember there were "nut cases" for teachers and they actually knew NOTHING. But there were also good teachers - DAMN good and they KNEW their "stuff" and could and would translate that to their students WHO WANTED TO LEARN. It is all about YOU wanting to LEARN INSPITE of all the bulls**t. But having OR DEVELOPING AN OPEN MIND and BEING OBJECTIVE about ALL THINGS and considering information from ALL sources ALL the time is KEY to learning IN ANY SUBJECT. If all we did when we went to school was "swallow" what was taught we could all be "spoon -fed".

LEARNING takes effort and skill and drive and determination and a willingness to SEE things FROM ALL PERSPECTIVES no matter the subject. To do any other way is to entertain failure. Your own and any possibility for helping others in the future which many times college people end up attempting to do.

I am not ignorant - or stupid - of what goes on in schools - or colleges or universities. I speak to Professors all the time and have some down-and-dirty discussions about a lot. They too know there are bad "teachers" but they also know there are bad "students" too who are there just to take up someone's time and use up their parents money to have a good time.

Your education DEPENDS ON YOU and what you expect and want to get out of it. Remember, if you are not already an adult who is mature, you are going to become one - somehow, someway - or you are going to fail.

John H.

John H, you never answered my question about actually going to college but it still seems like you never went. Talking to professors has no bearing on what it takes to earn a degree in chemistry. Your open mind crap will NEVER help people learn. I have failed exams in the past in college, but never ONCE did a professor stop and say "Wow, you have an open mind and are willing to learn from all angles, and despite the fact that you did not know the required information at all, ill give you an A".

Another thing, you can't consider information from ALL sources and do well in college, like you claim. If you tried to teach me thermochemistry, I would probably fail the shit out of it, because your so called open mind doesn't do shit for me, or for the laws of thermochemistry. You say you aren't ignorant, but you are VERY ignorant to what it takes to make it in college. I know many close minded people who are cruising through Organic Chemistry with no problem, and many open minded people who wouldn't know a carbon chain from an methyl group. You seem to think that if we adopt your ways, or what you call "open mindedness" then we are capable of doing anything at all, well I think everything you say and all those you look up to, like that quack pedophile, are complete bullshit, but I am successful in chemistry purely based on the fact that I want a chemistry PhD a lot more than most people, and whether or not I have an open mind has not done shit to help me in college, it has solely been my desire to succeed.

You also say there are bad students, but at my level of college, there are not bad students. They have long ago been forced to change majors due to the fact that they didn't want it enough. At my level, there are only people who want it more or less, and this is fucking college John H, not high school. High school is nothing like college at all. A professor is not going to hold your hand when you don't understand something, and hold up the other 200 students in the class, they expect you to do it on your own. Once again, you can NOT earn a chemistry degree based on your state of mind like you so often preach to all of us who block you out time and time again. I think it is you that is ignorant because you think nothing of praising a pedophile, which is very sick and clearly shows some sort of mental disturbance on your part. Anyone who approves of a man who did a study to see how many orgasms an 11 month old child could have doesn't deserve the respect of anyone.

Say what you will about John H. but he sticks to his guns even when 99.999% of the people on the site hate him and disagree with everything he says. I can't imagine he does much else besides watching Kinsey documentaries because he spends so much time writing in depth replies to pretty much every post; but still.

Originally Posted by derekisdman

Say what you will about John H. but he sticks to his guns even when 99.999% of the people on the site hate him and disagree with everything he says. I can't imagine he does much else besides watching Kinsey documentaries because he spends so much time writing in depth replies to pretty much every post; but still.

haha, ill give him that much.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

John H, you never answered my question about actually going to college but it still seems like you never went. Talking to professors has no bearing on what it takes to earn a degree in chemistry. Your open mind crap will NEVER help people learn. I have failed exams in the past in college, but never ONCE did a professor stop and say "Wow, you have an open mind and are willing to learn from all angles, and despite the fact that you did not know the required information at all, ill give you an A".

Another thing, you can't consider information from ALL sources and do well in college, like you claim. If you tried to teach me thermochemistry, I would probably fail the shit out of it, because your so called open mind doesn't do shit for me, or for the laws of thermochemistry. You say you aren't ignorant, but you are VERY ignorant to what it takes to make it in college. I know many close minded people who are cruising through Organic Chemistry with no problem, and many open minded people who wouldn't know a carbon chain from an methyl group. You seem to think that if we adopt your ways, or what you call "open mindedness" then we are capable of doing anything at all, well I think everything you say and all those you look up to, like that quack pedophile, are complete bullshit, but I am successful in chemistry purely based on the fact that I want a chemistry PhD a lot more than most people, and whether or not I have an open mind has not done shit to help me in college, it has solely been my desire to succeed.

You also say there are bad students, but at my level of college, there are not bad students. They have long ago been forced to change majors due to the fact that they didn't want it enough. At my level, there are only people who want it more or less, and this is fucking college John H, not high school. High school is nothing like college at all. A professor is not going to hold your hand when you don't understand something, and hold up the other 200 students in the class, they expect you to do it on your own. Once again, you can NOT earn a chemistry degree based on your state of mind like you so often preach to all of us who block you out time and time again. I think it is you that is ignorant because you think nothing of praising a pedophile, which is very sick and clearly shows some sort of mental disturbance on your part. Anyone who approves of a man who did a study to see how many orgasms an 11 month old child could have doesn't deserve the respect of anyone.

Gococks,

Sorry, I got caught up with the details and forgot - I have and do go to college. I am currently taking a number of courses I am interested in and am limited in my time to do so but I enjoy going - it keeps the mind working and I like learning a lot of things. Some of what I take supplements what I have done already when going to college. Some is just for my further education. Do I know it all? No, and I never will and that is not my intention because no one ever can. Besides I like a lot of things in life and always just going to college or always having your head in books is not my only interests. I wish I had 48 hours in a day because there is so much I want to do and like doing. Now as far as the 48, I would like to REDUCE the "work" hours FOR SURE but living requires a person to put in his share and I sure do. I have a family I love and want to help and a farm and my business. So my time is very limited. I utilized it wisely.

Talking with Professors does give a person a "slant" on what's "going on" although like anything it depends on who and how many you talk to... I also talk with other students as well. And I see for myself what is and is not going on...

I am well aware you are going to college. I am well aware you are going after a Chemistry degree. I am well aware of some of what it takes to get that degree. There are the "basics". I know that. I also know there is much more to it all as well. You apparently do not see that right now. Or do not want to. As you grow older you will begin to see things hopefully or you will end up not succeeding I do not care what your speciality is. If you put your brain into a mental prison that is where is will stay no matter what your speciality is. And it will effect everything you attempt to do. You have completely missed the point of what I am saying. And the reason for that IS because you have closed your mind to anything other then what you are currently doing. Your unwillingness to "open doors" will defeat you.

I will agree with you on this: you MUST DO for yourself. Your Professors are only going to do so much - because YOU are going to become an adult whether you like it or not and YOU are going to HAVE TO DO YOURSELF that is part of the experience of college. And even High School.

You could NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH with regard to my statement about having an open mind. You can NOT learn without one. Not really. Sure there are SOME things that are "set in stone", "kinda" BUT remember NO ONE KNOWS IT ALL and we - as we all learn - find new things all the time about anything - even those things we think we know all about. The ONLY WAY someone can truly learn is with an open mind and being objective. Now learning certain "laws" or "principles" sometimes requires that you LEARN THOSE AS THEY ARE STATED but to MOVE ON and BEYOND you MUST have an open mind. I know what you are saying as regards Chemistry for example, there are set rules, etc. but to TRULY go to the "beyond" - things we know nothing about YET, you MUST DEVELOP and YOU MUST HAVE an open mind. Sure you know the principles as we NOW KNOW THEM but that does NOT MEAN there is nothing new we do not know about out there and that is where being objective and willing to see things "to the beyond" comes in. That is were continued learning and new learning comes from. I think you missed my point entirely. You are caught up in Chemistry - I understand that. And there are certain rules, etc. you follow - or else - in order to achieve what you are currently after. But that is NOT the ENTIRELY of it all.

Also, your learning is NOT ALL in college. You learn throughout your entire life. So you MUST CONSIDER ALL THINGS FROM ALL SOURCES ALL THE TIME WITH AN OPEN MIND because THAT IS HOW YOU LEARN AND GROW and ultimately UNDERSTAND. You (meaning anyone) will never truly learn unless you see things from ALL SIDES. That does not mean you will always just "accept" or that it will be "right for" you. You will still have your "feelings" about things but those "feelings" will - HOPEFULLY - encompass as much information from as many sources as is possible - and remember that new information becomes available to all of us all the time. Things set in stone very often are changed and changed greatly because of new information no one knew about previously. And that can also include Chemistry. I understand people need to learn the basics - I am speaking of the ENTIRELY of learning. The basics are just a part of the ALL.

I have to say that by your own words you show your UNwillingness to see to the "beyond". I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND what you are saying about learning the basics. I have no problem with that at all. But there IS MUCH MORE TO IT ALL BEYOND THAT. And if you can not see that you will never be successful truthfully speaking. Sure you need a foundation - something to start with. But there is SO VERY MUCH MORE then that. DEVELOPE your basics, LEARN your basics. But that is NOT the WHOLE PICTURE.

As for Dr. Kinsey, he is NOT a pedophile and NEVER was. He was a damn good scientist and researcher. He did his work to the very best of his ability and was very sincere and honest in that endeavor. He CARED about people that is why he did the work and to the extent he did it. He tread on untrodden ground. Ground that was considered "taboo" by ANYONE. He did not take a major in Chemistry for example as you are doing. His expertise is entirely different from yours. I'd like to see you DO what he DID. He was under TREMENDOUS strain and pressure from all areas but KNEW the EXTREME IMPORTANCE AND MEANING of the work HE DID along with his Associates. Everyone has BENEFITED from the work that was done. And more needs to be done - without prejudice, bias, hatred, bigotry. He was a TRUE PIONEER and a TRUE SCIENTIST and RESEARCHER. His work has stood the test of time over and over and over again. If you ever attempt yourself to see ALL that he did and the why behind it - THE WHOLE STORY - you would understand that. All you are doing is what someone else "tells" you and you have done very little to see for yourself the ENTIRELY of it ALL. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DO THAT WITH AN OPEN MIND, OBJECTIVELY, ACCURATELY, COMPLETELY. To do any less you will fail for sure. And at your own hand.

John H.

Originally Posted by John H.

As for Dr. Kinsey, he is NOT a pedophile and NEVER was. He was a damn good scientist and researcher. He did his work to the very best of his ability and was very sincere and honest in that endeavor. He CARED about people that is why he did the work and to the extent he did it. He tread on untrodden ground.

Well, i thought the Nazi scientists were NOT deranged and NEVER were. They were damn good scientists and researchers. They did their work to the very best of their ability and were very sincer and honest in that endeavor. They CARED about people that is why they did the work and to the extent they did it. They tread on untrodden ground, too, John H, and they were fucked up just like your boy Kin-faggot.

How can you POSSIBLY not see that? Or do you CHOOSE to not see it?

Originally Posted by derekisdman

Say what you will about John H. but he sticks to his guns even when 99.999% of the people on the site hate him and disagree with everything he says. I can't imagine he does much else besides watching Kinsey documentaries because he spends so much time writing in depth replies to pretty much every post; but still.

Hi Derekisdman,

There is only one current Documentary I am aware of at present that discusses Dr. Alfred Kinsey in THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE series. It is about 1 1/2 hours long. There was another film that discussed the FIFTIES (1950's) I believe that did discuss him also. I saw that a number of years ago. It is still available I believe.

These Documentaries are meant to do a number of things some of which are: to discuss the subject from many points and have you want to see more for yourself and do your own research into the subject. So if after seeing such a program you have questions you will want to do your own investigating and find out more. In fact, as the Documentary on Dr. Kinsey was being broadcast on Public Broadcasting you were invited to ask the experts questions with regard to the film and its contents on-line. Also, the film and others are available from www.pbs.org and if I remember correctly you could also e-mail questions. So there was interaction available. Also, for those who want, you can contact THE KINSEY INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN SEX, GENDER, AND REPRODUCTION at Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana via www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/

I have a lot to do each and every day. And I do that. I am currently on this subject only because I have found how much people really do not know and how many are so willing to stick their heads in the sand and just "accept" what someone else "tells" them. I am not narrow-minded and I do not have tunnel vision as so many seem to have which is why so many are in the situations they find their lives in. They put themselves into that.

Look at it this way. You are into Bodybuilding - for DAMN GOOD REASONS. You WANT to ACHIEVE. You WANT to BE SUCCESSFUL. Even BEYOND just "successful". So you start out with "the basics". But when you are "into it" you find there is much more to it all and that YOU must see what it is that WILL WORK FOR YOU - everyone is different and has different requirements and needs - and so you do your own research into finding that success you want. You also may find that what works for one person will not for another or for you. So you try something different. You THINK about it all. You ASK questions. And of others. You try a number of things. And you research so you can see what others have done, how they have done it, what success they have achieved, their body-type, etc.

The basics: proper rest (honestly so), proper nutrition (absolutely and with thought and purpose), proper exercise with proper form (EVERY TIME) CONCENTRATING on EACH EXERCISE AS YOU ARE DOING IT - PERFECT FORM. And the right weight and the right equipment.

And, personally, if I may, based on the photograph accompanying your area you are doing a DAMN GOOD JOB - KEEP GOING because you have a hell of a lot more potential and WILL SUCCEED - GUARANTEED. As long as you stay focused and are truthful about yourself and your work.

Take Care, John H.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

haha, ill give him that much.

Gococks,

I NEVER ask someone to "just believe" anything I say. EVER!!! I EXPECT THEM to DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH - THOROUGHLY AND ACCURATELY THEMSELVES. Find out FOR YOURSELF. DO THAT HONESTLY THOUGH without ANY hatred, bigotry, bias, etc. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW ANYONE TRULY LEARNS ANYTHING.

LOOK AT THE WHOLE STORY NEVER just "parts" of it. To do that you do not KNOW much of anything when you just "pick and choose" or "just go with the flow" or "what everyone else says is so". FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF - THOROUGHLY AND ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY.

John H.

Originally Posted by Flex

Well, i thought the Nazi scientists were NOT deranged and NEVER were. They were damn good scientists and researchers. They did their work to the very best of their ability and were very sincer and honest in that endeavor. They CARED about people that is why they did the work and to the extent they did it. They tread on untrodden ground, too, John H, and they were fucked up just like your boy Kin-faggot.

How can you POSSIBLY not see that? Or do you CHOOSE to not see it?

Hi Flex,

I SEE BEYOND all the "hipe" BECAUSE I LOOK AT EVERYTHING - HARD AND DEEP.

Your personal hatred, bias, bigotry, etc. are coming through.

I NEVER just accept anything someone just tells me "is so". Most people will tell you a lot much of which is not accurate, complete, honest, etc.

Your viewpoint confesses to me that you have done very little PERSONAL RESEARCH into this subject at all and are perpetuating the same bullshit that is being slung. Grow up and BE the Man and Adult that is mature you want people to think you are. The ONLY WAY you do that IS TO DO FOR YOURSELF your OWN RESEARCH THOROUGHLY AND COMPLETELY AND ACCURATELY. Consider ALL the facts not just some "things".

Honestly speaking, when you workout, do you ask OTHERS to do that FOR YOU? How do you ACHIEVE personally UNLESS YOU DO FOR YOURSELF WHAT YOU MUST DO? How successful have you become so far? In anything? See what I am saying and what I mean?

Take Care, John H.

John H,

Me doing my own research has nothing to do with Kinsey doing FUCKED UP sexual experiments on innocent children.

As a matter of fact, i DONT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING about FUCKED UP sexual
experiments on innocent children.

Put the Payote, acid and PCP down and join us back on Earth

Originally Posted by Flex

John H,

Me doing my own research has nothing to do with Kinsey doing FUCKED UP sexual experiments on innocent children.

As a matter of fact, i DONT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING about FUCKED UP sexual
experiments on innocent children.

Put the Payote, acid and PCP down and join us back on Earth

Hi Flex,

Do you have any idea what a Medical Doctor does? Do you have any idea what a Scientist does? Do you have any idea what a researcher does?

How do you think anything is discovered or understood. How do you think answers to the most important things of life and living are arrived at? NO ONE ABUSED ANYONE in this research.

You do not know what you are talking about because you are only listening to what others just "tell you". DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH into all this and see for yourself ACCURATELY about the ENTIRELY OF ALL OF THIS. DO NOT PICK AND CHOOSE - SEE THE ENTIRE STORY AND THE ENTIRE PURPUSE BEHIND THE RESEARCH AND HOW IT DOES HELP EVERYONE.

Part of being an adult who is mature is being responsible especially to oneself. And to others as well.


Take Care, John H.

Let me get this straight John H. So you think that as long as its for "research purposes", it's ok to see how many orgasms an 11 month old child, who is not capable of reproducing, can have? If you think Michael Jackson is bad in any way, you are a huge HYPOCRITE. I think Michael Jackson is a nutbag who molests children, I think Dr. Kesey is a nutbag who molests children, and I think you are a nutbag who idolizes those who molest children. Michael Jackson is a bisexual John H, so now does that mean he's a revolutionary and stomping out all the religious bigotry of the world?!?!?!?! No, it means he's a sick shit, just like your golden calf Dr. Kesey, and you have some weird obsession with trying to justify his actions by saying they are in the name of science, and are benificial. Read this closely John H, and write it down because regardless of what same old shit you spat out about open mindedness and freedom of the soul bullshit, this is the truth, THERE IS NO REASON TO KNOW HOW MANY ORGASMS AN INFANT CAN HAVE. And just showing that you think it's beneficial in some way shows you have a problem. If I had kids John H, i wouldn't leave them alone with you, because I would honestly be afraid you would perform something on them in the name of science.