What makes a bodybuilder...

**P-funk** · 02-24-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

God, Im a wannabe

Im going to compete next year, thats it!

Who needs enemies, with friends like that.

hahahhaa

**Prince** · 02-24-2005, 08:53 PM

Assuming that you mean what makes a successful pro bodybuilder I would have to choose genetics if I could only choose one, otherwise it would be all of the above.

Flex · 02-24-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by derekisdman

Everyone is made up of genetic code, so therefore genetics actually "make" everyone and therefore make bodybuilders.

are you TRYING to make the hit list?

**P-funk** · 02-24-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

are you TRYING to make the hit list?

Flex · 02-24-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ponyboy

Yeah, but my dad can beat up your dad.

No he can't.

I killed him.

derekisdman · 02-24-2005, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

are you TRYING to make the hit list?

Yes! Where am I at? Right behind John H.?

John H. · 02-25-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sweatshopchamp

What makes a bodybuilder? If you had to choose one.

Hi Sweatshopchamp,

Truthfully, there is only one answer because it is the BASIS for all else - diet and nutrition. Just as an automobile can not run without fuel so too is this true of the Human body. You can not "build" your body without the BASICS. PERIOD. All else you list follows but is just as important. The only thing I would say you list - genetics - is not a requirement but it sure can help though depending on a person's goals.

Take Care, John H.

John H. · 02-25-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sweatshopchamp

What makes a bodybuilder? If you had to choose one.

I would put those you list in this order of importance:

1) Diet / nutrition. Without the fuel that is proper you can not accomplish anything and you'd be wasting your time. Proper rest is also a very basic requirement.

2) Work ethic. If you are not going to stick with it you will not succeed. You should never go into something "half way" or "part way".

3) Mental focus / attitude. You MUST focus on what you are doing and how you do it with EACH exercise. To do otherwise you are cheating yourself and wasting your time and effort. Your attitude should be FOREMOST that you are GOING TO DO THE JOB RIGHT EVERY TIME WITH PERFECT FORM. Because that IS how you will succeed.

4) Training. Unless you do - train - and PROPERLY you will get no where.

5) Genetics. This can help expecially if you are after a certain "look" or "totality" about you. But ANYONE CAN SUCCEED in Bodybuilding - GUARANTEED - if they DO everything that involves numbers 1 through 4 above. And not much in life is really GUARANTEED.

Take Care, John H.

Flex · 02-25-2005, 10:55 AM

John,

sorry to say, you can have all the focus, diet and work ethic in the world, but you AINT a BB unless you're in the gym training, regardless of whether you train exactly proper or not.

thatguy · 02-25-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by John H.

Hi Sweatshopchamp,

Truthfully, there is only one answer because it is the BASIS for all else - diet and nutrition. Just as an automobile can not run without fuel so too is this true of the Human body. You can not "build" your body without the BASICS. PERIOD. All else you list follows but is just as important. The only thing I would say you list - genetics - is not a requirement but it sure can help though depending on a person's goals.

Take Care, John H.

Lot's of people eat healthy and aren't even close to being bodybuilders. Diet doesn't make a bodybuilder.

My answer was work ethic. If your goal is to be a bodybuilder, and your work ethic is good, then you will undergo the necessary steps to reach your goal. This includes diet, training, and focus. That's really the whole concept of work ethic - being dedicated to whatever it takes to complete your goals.

Flex · 02-25-2005, 11:10 AM

check out my other thread guys, i think we can sort this mess out...

Du · 02-25-2005, 11:13 AM

This whole thread is a pissing match. You need all of the mentioned qualities to become one, without even ONE of those, youll never be successful.

Except maybe genetics. Gear can help you past that.

sweatshopchamp · 02-26-2005, 12:48 AM

Maybe i'm slow, but i don't see how you can be a BB if you don't train at all...[/quote]The poll is like this, if you had to have a supperior aspect of bodybuilding which one would it be. Its not have one and no others its which one would you want to be the best if you could only pick one.

John H. · 02-26-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex

John,

sorry to say, you can have all the focus, diet and work ethic in the world, but you AINT a BB unless you're in the gym training, regardless of whether you train exactly proper or not.

Hi Flex,

Go back and re-read what I said. In the order I listed those things IS the ONLY WAY someone can BECOME a Bodybuilder. AND SUCCEED. You or anyone else can lift til your blue in the face but without proper nutrition and proper diet, proper rest, you will not end up with much and certainly you can "go for awhile" but without "gas" (the fuel that is PROPER) you will fail.

Take Care, John H.

**Prince** · 02-26-2005, 10:47 AM

It's a combination of Diet/Nutrition, Training, Genetics, Work ethic, and Mental Focus/attitude.

Obviously if your diet is perfect and you do not train with some form of progressive overload I doubt you will get very far, and vice versa you can train perfectly but if you eat Taco Bell every day you wil not get very far.

I still say that genetics is #1.

Vince2005 · 02-27-2005, 03:52 PM

All of them make a bodybuilder but I think the most important is mental focus and attitude towards bodybuilding.

View Poll Results: What makes a bodybuilder? (If you had to pick one)
Diet/Nutrition	6	19.35%
Training	5	16.13%
Genetics	5	16.13%
Work ethic	5	16.13%
Mental focus/attitude	10	32.26%
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02-24-2005, 08:53 PM	#32
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 34,003 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Assuming that you mean what makes a successful pro bodybuilder I would have to choose genetics if I could only choose one, otherwise it would be all of the above.
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02-25-2005, 10:55 AM	#39
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	John, sorry to say, you can have all the focus, diet and work ethic in the world, but you AINT a BB unless you're in the gym training, regardless of whether you train exactly proper or not.
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02-25-2005, 11:10 AM	#41
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	check out my other thread guys, i think we can sort this mess out...
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

02-25-2005, 11:13 AM	#42
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	This whole thread is a pissing match. You need all of the mentioned qualities to become one, without even ONE of those, youll never be successful. Except maybe genetics. Gear can help you past that.
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02-26-2005, 12:48 AM	#43
sweatshopchamp J-Freak Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mountains Posts: 182	Maybe i'm slow, but i don't see how you can be a BB if you don't train at all...[/quote]The poll is like this, if you had to have a supperior aspect of bodybuilding which one would it be. Its not have one and no others its which one would you want to be the best if you could only pick one.
	Bench 205, 225 by June Squat 456, 550 Clean 225, 245 Dead 355, 405 Age:17 and 4 months Height: 5'9.25" (shoes off) Weight: 175(birthday suit) ANYTHING less then your best is sacrificing the gift Lift Heavy, eat heavy, get BIG!

02-26-2005, 10:47 AM	#45
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 34,003 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	It's a combination of Diet/Nutrition, Training, Genetics, Work ethic, and Mental Focus/attitude. Obviously if your diet is perfect and you do not train with some form of progressive overload I doubt you will get very far, and vice versa you can train perfectly but if you eat Taco Bell every day you wil not get very far. I still say that genetics is #1.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System. Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (CEE) On Sale $17.49 per bottle!

02-27-2005, 03:52 PM	#46
Vince2005 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 191 Photos: 1	All of them make a bodybuilder but I think the most important is mental focus and attitude towards bodybuilding.
	19 years old Bodyweight 135 pounds Bodyfat 14% 5"6 Max Squat unknown Max Bench Unknown Goals for March Bodyweight 150 pounds.Max Squat 250 pounds Max Bench 200 pounds.

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