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    Grand Theft Auto KILLS...WTF

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147722,00.html

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    You have GOT to be kidding me.

    This is the SAME bullshit that makes society believe roid rage exists. ONE kid kills cops, he happened to play GTA, so now GTA was the cause?????

    What about 99% of all the kids who commit crimes who DONT play video games. or 99% of all the kids who play video games who DONT commit crimes.

    This is absolute BULLSHIT.
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    hahahah omg

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    hahahhaha, it was all because his friend took come creatine and he just happened to get the fumes, so get got all crazy on rage...right ?

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    That game kicks so much ass.

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    I haven't played San Andreas (I don't own a console), but I think that Vice City is one of the best games ever created. How many games have you tooling along on a crotch rocket just checking out the sights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
    That game kicks so much ass.
    Really? Way better than Vice City?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147722,00.html

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/cri...he_grand_.html

    You have GOT to be kidding me.

    This is the SAME bullshit that makes society believe roid rage exists. ONE kid kills cops, he happened to play GTA, so now GTA was the cause?????

    What about 99% of all the kids who commit crimes who DONT play video games. or 99% of all the kids who play video games who DONT commit crimes.

    This is absolute BULLSHIT.
    On X-mas eve 1990 I handled a homicide of a little girl who had been beaten to a pulp by her professional bodybuilder father. This guy was so big we had to get ankle bracelets to fit around his wrists. The mother, who was terrified of this guy, finally admitted that the guy had beaten the girl daily while leaving the other two youngest kids alone. He also beat mommy a lot. She later testified that He'd been using steroids for over 20 years and had, over time, gone from being an easy going guy to a demented lunatic. On X-mas eve 1990 he finally snapped and beat his little daughter so bad that if we have been unable to find her vagina we wouldn't have known if it was a boy or girl.

    She had the prettiest china blue eyes too. I remember that, her staring at me on that hospital gurney before I closed them and took her to the morgue.

    Anyone that thinks roid rage doesn't exist is living in some bodybuilder never,neverland. I have personally observed it in acquaintances on numerous occasions. Tho I would call it more of a "personality change disorder". Not that any of them saw it in themselves mind you. Then again how many drunks and "other" drug users do you know admit to having a problem?

    As to grand theft auto? Adolescent boys cruising the streets beating the shit out of woman and innocent passerby? Killing cops?.......................gee...whats the problem? ....Uncle Rich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    Anyone that thinks roid rage doesn't exist is living in some bodybuilder never,neverland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by du510
    You can do that again, looks like someones stepping up to feel johnnny's shoes real quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by du510
    [You can do that again, looks like someones stepping up to feel johnnny's shoes real quick.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    On X-mas eve 1990 I handled a homicide of a little girl who had been beaten to a pulp by her professional bodybuilder father. This guy was so big we had to get ankle bracelets to fit around his wrists. The mother, who was terrified of this guy, finally admitted that the guy had beaten the girl daily while leaving the other two youngest kids alone. He also beat mommy a lot. She later testified that He'd been using steroids for over 20 years and had, over time, gone from being an easy going guy to a demented lunatic. On X-mas eve 1990 he finally snapped and beat his little daughter so bad that if we have been unable to find her vagina we wouldn't have known if it was a boy or girl.

    She had the prettiest china blue eyes too. I remember that, her staring at me on that hospital gurney before I closed them and took her to the morgue.

    Anyone that thinks roid rage doesn't exist is living in some bodybuilder never,neverland. I have personally observed it in acquaintances on numerous occasions. Tho I would call it more of a "personality change disorder". Not that any of them saw it in themselves mind you. Then again how many drunks and "other" drug users do you know admit to having a problem?

    As to grand theft auto? Adolescent boys cruising the streets beating the shit out of woman and innocent passerby? Killing cops?.......................gee...whats the problem? ....Uncle Rich
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    Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    On X-mas eve 1990 I handled a homicide of a little girl who had been beaten to a pulp by her professional bodybuilder father. This guy was so big we had to get ankle bracelets to fit around his wrists. The mother, who was terrified of this guy, finally admitted that the guy had beaten the girl daily while leaving the other two youngest kids alone. He also beat mommy a lot. She later testified that He'd been using steroids for over 20 years and had, over time, gone from being an easy going guy to a demented lunatic. On X-mas eve 1990 he finally snapped and beat his little daughter so bad that if we have been unable to find her vagina we wouldn't have known if it was a boy or girl.

    A pro by what name, whats the report number, you took the body to the morgue? Were you a detective back then? Got busted down to traffic patrol? Sure roids were the only controlled substance he'd ever used in his life maybe he boozed it up or used ice, are you a psychologist too and know that he just wasn't a very nice person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    I find the level of denial from bodybuilders concerning steroids to be almost childishy pathetic.....................Uncle Rich

    And yet you spend 2 hours a day in ONLY the 'open' forum of a bodybuilding board. Talk about childish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    On X-mas eve 1990 he finally snapped and beat his little daughter so bad that if we have been unable to find her vagina we wouldn't have known if it was a boy or girl.

    Is it regular police business to look for victims vagina's or only the preverted ones?

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    I gotta say that the only sad part of this story is that it wasn't Rich that was killed by this kid.. but hey, heres hoping..... Hey Rich, it must be nice to live in a fantasy world like you do, I hope it comfortable for you b/c you are so dissillusioned from reality you may actually be retarded.. but hey congratulations on knowing more than anyone else you ever talk to for gods sake... bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by LW83
    Is it regular police business to look for victims vagina's or only the preverted ones?
    I guess the Mother's word wasn't enough for old "Uncle Rich", I think I read somewhere once that pederasts like to refer to themselves as a childs "Uncle" even if they've never met before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by du510
    roid rage on SD....
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    Lmao, the game,"Trained him" to kill three men.
    He pulled the officers gun, switched to third person view, pushed R1 to aim at the officer and hit X repeatedly killing all three officers.

    After that he probably ran over to the police car and Pressed O to get in and began driving using the left analog stick, Square and X.


    You know they should pull the strategy guide for that game off the shelf, Got some terrorist plans right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich46yo
    On X-mas eve 1990 I handled a homicide of a little girl who had been beaten to a pulp by her professional bodybuilder father. This guy was so big we had to get ankle bracelets to fit around his wrists. The mother, who was terrified of this guy, finally admitted that the guy had beaten the girl daily while leaving the other two youngest kids alone. He also beat mommy a lot. She later testified that He'd been using steroids for over 20 years and had, over time, gone from being an easy going guy to a demented lunatic. On X-mas eve 1990 he finally snapped and beat his little daughter so bad that if we have been unable to find her vagina we wouldn't have known if it was a boy or girl.

    She had the prettiest china blue eyes too. I remember that, her staring at me on that hospital gurney before I closed them and took her to the morgue.

    Anyone that thinks roid rage doesn't exist is living in some bodybuilder never,neverland. I have personally observed it in acquaintances on numerous occasions. Tho I would call it more of a "personality change disorder". Not that any of them saw it in themselves mind you. Then again how many drunks and "other" drug users do you know admit to having a problem?

    As to grand theft auto? Adolescent boys cruising the streets beating the shit out of woman and innocent passerby? Killing cops?.......................gee...whats the problem? ....Uncle Rich
    My God, Rich, generalize much?

    Let me ask you a question. What about the other 99% of people who have EVER used steroids who NEVER beat/killed/exhibited ANY type of rage while on steroids?
    What about the other 99% of people who have ever played violent video games and NEVER beat/killed/exhibited ANY type of anything in real life?

    Rich, once in a while you make a good point here or there, but here you're spewing bullshit like a fountain.
    How can you possibly take ONE example and generalize it to the entire population. You know what that's called? Stereotyping.

    Rich, i, and many other people i know, and many people on this board, have used steroids. NOT ONCE did we ever exhibit any bullshit so-called "rage".
    We have also played violent video games. Shit, i was the master of 007 Goldeneye, the first very realistic first person shooting game. I used to snipe kids from an upper corner or blast them with a pistol to the back of the head. Did i ONCE EVER get the urge to do it in person or b/c i played have significant training to do that shit in real life?

    Get a fucking clue............PLEASE.
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    As to grand theft auto? Adolescent boys cruising the streets beating the shit out of woman and innocent passerby? Killing cops?.......................gee...whats the problem? ....Uncle Rich
    ...oh and btw rich, in the game there are consequences for killing people, so if kids really had their behavior patterned after the game like you say, then they would also take in the fact that when you even strike a cop, the entire force comes after you. The set up road blocks and traps for you. Once you get going enough with the trouble the Feds and eventually the US army come after you in tanks with soldiers droppin from choppers poppin you. You get arrested or shot, so isn't that a pretty accurate reflection of what happens when you kill people randomly? Isn't that a good deterant if infact kids are learning from the game? The fact of the matter is that a person of normal health does not play a game or watch a movie and become a killer, its just not how it works son. The people that do act out, the problem stemms far deeper than simply being bored and ipressionable. These people suffered trauma and chaos, as well as neglection and abandonment as children, growing up in unstable homes so maybe we should be focusing on the root of the problem here, eh jackass, or we could just blame some random thing like you do right..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex
    My God, Rich, generalize much?

    Let me ask you a question. What about the other 99% of people who have EVER used steroids who NEVER beat/killed/exhibited ANY type of rage while on steroids?
    What about the other 99% of people who have ever played violent video games and NEVER beat/killed/exhibited ANY type of anything in real life?

    Rich, once in a while you make a good point here or there, but here you're spewing bullshit like a fountain.
    How can you possibly take ONE example and generalize it to the entire population. You know what that's called? Stereotyping.

    Rich, i, and many other people i know, and many people on this board, have used steroids. NOT ONCE did we ever exhibit any bullshit so-called "rage".
    We have also played violent video games. Shit, i was the master of 007 Goldeneye, the first very realistic first person shooting game. I used to snipe kids from an upper corner or blast them with a pistol to the back of the head. Did i ONCE EVER get the urge to do it in person or b/c i played have significant training to do that shit in real life?

    Get a fucking clue............PLEASE.
    Flex how old are you? really? I have more then a clue. I have almost 5 decades of life on this planet and frankly in those years Ive seen a consistent,ongoing breakdown of acceptable social norms and attitudes. The breakdown of the family, drug use, babies sucked out of wombs, kids being raised with no values or discipline, empty churches........I could go on for hours.

    Most troubling to me, and one as a cop Ive observed most frequently, has been the steady de-huminization of violence in our entire society. Children today are raised in media controlled atmospheres of graphic sex and violence that people couldn't even imagine when I was a kid. I like the naked woman pics here but I truly believe hard core pornography degrades woman. And I also believe the media violence machine also victimizes woman.

    In the latter half of my career I'm coming across juvenile monsters so filled with hate and violence, their crimes so abhorrent, Ive given a lot of time to thinking what are the causes of this disease. The main one is "liberalism", and right there with it are the violence peddlers. The same whores and pimps that proclaim themselves Liberals are the same pieces of shit that hold the controls to the media machine that no parent can completely insulate their children from. Even I cant!

    But one thing I can do is be home every night and supervise my child. Of course that wont protect him if one of these little monsters decides to shoot up his school ,or decides hes wearing the wrong jacket on the street, but I do the best I can. Unfortunately this disease called Liberalism has also taught people a marriage vow means nothing, parenthood should be optional, and fucking me!me!me!me!me!me!

    I have nothing against the lawful application of violence. Ive done it many times myself. I'm pro gun rights for lawful citizens, believe soldiering is noble, and think we should murder every terrorist we find in his bed, no questions asked! But grand Theft Auto is a motherfucking piece of shit, as is every type of gratuitous violence garbage the media machine spews. They devalue the very most valuable thing any of us will ever see on this earth.

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    [[[[Originally Posted by LW83
    Is it regular police business to look for victims vagina's or only the preverted ones? ]]]]]

    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion
    I guess the Mother's word wasn't enough for old "Uncle Rich", I think I read somewhere once that pederasts like to refer to themselves as a childs "Uncle" even if they've never met before.
    I cant even begin to imagine what kind of demented asshole would even think of such a thing, let alone post it. For the others here the mother was afraid to go to the hospital, she was spoken to later, and the father refused to talk to us initially. Not that it matters. Police officers always examine bodies after death because they become evidence.

    Manlicon I never thought much of you but I did think better of you then this. You wouldnt say that to my face. Believe me you wouldnt. You are now just another faceless asshole on my ignore list........................................UNCLE Rich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain Link
    Lmao, the game,"Trained him" to kill three men.
    He pulled the officers gun, switched to third person view, pushed R1 to aim at the officer and hit X repeatedly killing all three officers.

    After that he probably ran over to the police car and Pressed O to get in and began driving using the left analog stick, Square and X.


    You know they should pull the strategy guide for that game off the shelf, Got some terrorist plans right there.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
    My weapon of choice in GTA is the chainsaw.
    I've only played Vice City, but you're gotta love the splash of blood on the camera.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
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    Consider the source. This game is why Rich baned a kid from his home. In his post as he discussed the situation he called the 10 year old kid a cocksucker and a lil motherfucker for bringing the game over. He was actually baby sitting the poor child at the time.

    Uncle Rich is a wonderful human being.

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    I'm not saying the game is responsible, because it is just a thing, but how can you deny that what you feed your brain is a form of training?

    If what you view has no impact on your decision making, then why is marketing so effective and expensive?

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