Do you belive in God?

**Uzi9** · 04-17-2005, 05:40 AM

Science would say no but science knows nothing when it comes to the universe and the grand sheme of things i always think these questions put perspective on things.

What started the universe?
What was before the start of the universe? and when did the universe start?

There had to be a point when the things happen i.e. big bang or whatever theory, but before that happened what was there? it must of been there for infinite time in which case how can the big bang happen? if there is no start point to something there can be no future dates.

If the ball of mass was there for 100000000 years then exploded (big bang)it still wouldnt make sence because 100000000 years from when? what point did day 1 start? to say 100000000 years.

If the universe if infinite then how can we be in point A (earth) when there Is no end or begining how can you pick a part of infinite to be in?

I dont belive things are just as worked out and simple as every one thinks, just living in your pocket of a life which you have worked out dosent mean your ignorance of what isnt explained and which can never be explained by humans should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I am not sure what I belive but I doubt that all that is in the universe wasn`t created all by itself somehow.

**myCATpowerlifts** · 04-17-2005, 09:00 AM

I do.
Science cannot be applied to religion.
The scientific theory is meant for solving science...nothing else.

And there are many many great and well-known scientists who believe in God.

**LW83** · 04-17-2005, 09:09 AM

Only when I have to.

**overthepond** · 04-17-2005, 09:32 AM

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

**Prince** · 04-17-2005, 09:45 AM

I like to believe there is a god, but I do not believe or follow any religeons.

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I like to believe there is a god, but I do not believe or follow any religeons.

Same here.

**shiznit2169** · 04-17-2005, 09:59 AM

I like to believe there is a god, but I do not believe or follow any religeons.

Same here

Also when you die, people often say your "spirit" will rise to heaven while others think nothing happens, you're just dead like when before you were born. What do you all believe?

**buff_tat2d_chic** · 04-17-2005, 10:20 AM

no

**BritChick** · 04-17-2005, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I like to believe there is a god, but I do not believe or follow any religeons.

Likewise, I'd 'like' to believe... I am not sure that I do though, I guess I'm too much of a skeptic to be convinced.

**bio-chem** · 04-17-2005, 10:53 AM

as i study chemistry more, the more and more i believe there has to be a God. things are to perfect for this to happen because of some random elements coming together by chance in exactly the right secuence for life to happen.

i also believe in a church that believes the spirit was not created at the time of physical birth. meaning we existed as spirits before we were born into mortality here on this earth.

**Uzi9** · 04-17-2005, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by BritChick

Likewise, I'd 'like' to believe... I am not sure that I do though, I guess I'm too much of a skeptic to be convinced.

What would the the skeptic in you say about the questions i posed in my first post? when you look into space do you think what you know is all there is?

**Vieope** · 04-17-2005, 12:00 PM

How can I not believe in myself?

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Vieope

How can I not believe in myself?

Oh holy one...what is the meaning of life....

**Maynard Keenan** · 04-17-2005, 12:42 PM

I see theres more proof of satan in this world then god. Although I do believe there is a god or creator of this world. Or maybe god and satan are the same. This world could just be for amusement for god. I believe this world is getting more evil every day.

**BritChick** · 04-17-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Uzi9

What would the the skeptic in you say about the questions i posed in my first post? when you look into space do you think what you know is all there is?

No, I definately don't think all I know is all there is not sure where you got that theory... hell I don't know much about anything!
Just because I don't know the answers to the questions I'm not ready to commit to everything being a creation of God.
As I said I would 'like' to believe... I'm just not certain that I do and I don't think I ever will be.

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 12:49 PM

Who's to say that any religion is the right one.

**Prince** · 04-17-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Who's to say that any religion is the right one.

**Maynard Keenan** · 04-17-2005, 01:11 PM

**overthepond** · 04-17-2005, 02:29 PM

let's say good=god and evil=devil. If that is the case I find it interesting that, really, god cannot exist without the devlin and conversly, the devil cannot exist without god.

To quote the South Park Movie: "Without evil there can be no good so it must be good to evil sometimes!" - Sung by Satan

**King Silverback** · 04-17-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Who's to say that any religion is the right one.

1st. I DO believe in GOD!!!
2nd. I don't necessarily believe any 1 religion is right and the rest is wrong. All of them have their valid points while they also have points that I don't agree with 100 %. I deep down believe that your religion is in your heart, and GOD sees whats in the heart. Not what men see on the outside as a professed practitioner of any religion.

Does that make sense?

**Little Wing** · 04-17-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Vieope

How can I not believe in myself?

ah ha!

there has to be something more than science. bodies by science, emotion and thought by something infinitely more mysterious.

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

1st. I DO believe in GOD!!!
2nd. I don't necessarily believe any 1 religion is right and the rest is wrong. All of them have their valid points while they also have points that I don't agree with 100 %. I deep down believe that your religion is in your heart, and GOD sees whats in the heart. Not what men see on the outside as a professed practitioner of any religion.

Does that make sense?

Yes, it does. Unfortunately the many people that I have met who are religious tend to do the opposite of what they are taught.
It's all about the money.

**Vieope** · 04-17-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

Does that make sense?

Religion? No.

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 02:54 PM

Some things in religion just doesn't make sense at all.

**Vieope** · 04-17-2005, 02:55 PM

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

Bill Hicks

**Little Wing** · 04-17-2005, 02:57 PM

omg. i read the initial post like three times n kept thinking it belonged in the drugs thread. haha.

**shiznit2169** · 04-17-2005, 03:18 PM

religion is absolutely crazy over in the middle east

terrorists are a bunch of washups

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 03:22 PM

It makes me sick what goes on there.

**min0 lee** · 04-17-2005, 03:24 PM

And all because of religion.

**busyLivin** · 04-17-2005, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

And all because of religion.

nope...it's because of fanatical psychos influencing more fanatical psychos. Religion is just the tool used.

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