Thread: Advice needed from STRONG MINDS

I have dealt with people like this. Can't stand it. They are just egomaniacal bastards.

I say your best bet is to get your buddy who signed in for you to make a statement (written and verbal) as to the validity of your claim. Explain that you did miss one class and asked another student to sign in for you (you may be able to get him to attest to that but I don't know what the punishment would be for his actions). DO NOT TRY TO HIDE IT. Admit that you were wrong and explain why you did it/won't do it again. It's like being a child who stole a cookie.

If that doesn't work maybe try begging?

Talk to the Dean?

I dont know how you are going to explain, and have them believe, that you were so lazy that you would not spend 2 seconds to scribble your own signature. Nobody signs my name for me, ever. Thats asking for bad mojo.

Good luck though.

I mean, the best case scenario is that you act honest and humble. Try and have a grown up talk with the guy. Definitely talk to your friend and make sure he'll back you up as him having written your signature even though you were there. I'm sure other people in the class would probably have seen you as well.

Its not going to help to threaten to whoop the guys ass I dont think, so dont get aggressive with him. Ah well, I hope it all works out. I'd definitely be doing my own signatures from now on though.

i signed for others n had others sign for me all the time at my gym. get other students to sign a paper saying they saw you at the disputed times.

Hands down, RG is one of the strongest minds here.

Originally Posted by LW83

Talk to the Dean?

Hi Luke,

I agree with you. If he can not talk to this "man in charge" he needs to speak to the dean. Maybe even the Regents.

I can understand why the school would want each person to sign in themselves. I wonder if they have a camera in that room that could prove his attendence.

Take Care, John H.

First, tell him exactly what happened.

Then, why not PROVE you were there. Show him your notes of the classes he says you "missed", or talk a little about what the people presented the days you "missed".
Be honest with the guy and you should be okay.

Worse comes to worse, give me $50 and problem solved.

Originally Posted by LW83

Hands down, RG is one of the strongest minds here.

damn you kiss her ass

You have to teach this theoretical physics professor some practical physics.

Originally Posted by Flex

damn you kiss her ass

She deserves it man And she knows I have nothing to gain from saying it.

Originally Posted by Eggs

I mean, the best case scenario is that you act honest and humble.

Unless they are the kind of person that reads that as admittance of guilt, because you aren't staunchly defending yourself. Have to play that one by ear, unless you are always a certain way out of principle.

I dont know, I've found it to work in most cases where I keep my cool and try to speak to them rationally. I've found that when I flip my lid and get pissed off that I tend to accomplish a whole lot less. By all means he should defend himself, but he needs to keep his cool and not seem to the guy like he is attacking.

There is again a difference between defending and attacking, but - different people work differently. Sometimes a strong defensive attempt makes it look like they are guilty. Knowing what to do and when to do it, is the trick.

Mudge, who is that chick in your avi?

Originally Posted by LW83

She deserves it man And she knows I have nothing to gain from saying it.

awww. hmmm except a friend for life. n respecting a friends strengths isn't butt kissing.

Thanks for the advice guys.

I think that getting a signature from other people in the class backing me up that I Was there is a great idea.

I hate this sort of mess. People make such a big deal out of nothing sometimes!

i think that showing notes from those classes or going over what was discussed is a good idea also.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Mudge, who is that chick in your avi?

Kara Bohigian, a 5'2" powerlifter.

Anyways, good luck with that all. Tell us how it worked out. We do like most Brits over here (though we do rag on them when they start getting offensive). But hey, thats all fun and games.

Well things seem to be getting better.

I wrote my prof. a long email explaining everything in gross detail and heard back this morning.

They have decided to reduce the penalty to a reduction in grade - no real big deal considering the alternative.

The only problem now is that they are threatening a harsher punishment for my friend who actually signed for me while I was away! Damn! Now I get off but get someone else into deep shite. (This guy is like a brother to me so this is not good)

Hmmmmm!!!

Thanks again for the advice and support.

You should know that people will screw you if you screw with THEIR system.

60 seconds to actually think about the possible outcome before doing all of this would have saved you BOTH a lot of risk.

Thanks mom.

Thats the sort of thing my mum would say - and thats yet another reason I have no desire to return to england.

The deed is done and I need to deal with the reality of how to handle the situation rather than sit here and think about how I could have done things differently.

But don't you wish you'd listened to your Mom in the first place?

Thats often the position I've found myself in... and it certainly doesnt hurt to learn from ones mistakes. Or do you think you havent dont anything wrong?

Originally Posted by Mudge

You should know that people will screw you if you screw with THEIR system.

The latter. I don't think any wrong was done.

We are entitled to miss one class anyway with no penalty. Semester is over next week and I haven't missed any other class than that one and will not miss the final class next week.

All I did was sign for the one class I missed. But I was allowed to miss one anyway and either way it wouldn't not have made a difference to my grade.

Thus I have not violated the spirit of the honor code, only the bureaucracy.

And no I don't wish I'd listened to my mom (who doesn't know about this anyway!! I was just commenting that she sounds like her). If I'd listened to mom I would not have acheived one tenth of what I had. She plays things safe. I take more risks. She is unhappy and unsuccesful. I am happy and making myself a success.

Originally Posted by Mudge

Kara Bohigian, a 5'2" powerlifter.

Do you know her or something? She looks pretty good for a PLer in that pic.

Is there anything beyond a Phd in America?