All Jews, Christians, Muslims would be going to hell....

maniclion · 05-03-2005, 04:45 PM

that's
right
you all
would have
been
going
to
hell
had
the
Jews
not
been
Exiled
and
met
the

Persians who introduced them to Zoroastrian monotheism
before the Exile they believed everyone went to a Hades like place called Sheol(Hell). After a little mingling with the new religion suddenly heaven appeared in their thinking as well as later in Christianity the concept of Satan and the Apocalypse and the messiah, as well as guardian angels, etc. as well as the connections to Islam has to Judaism.

I just like to look at the history of these religions and how the influences had trickled through the millenias. They fight like crazy over the exact details when the big picture tells them to be tolerant of one another they all basically have the same foundation, they're all seeded in the same basic righteousness but they fanned out so wide they can't reach the base anymore. I think that the many of us who have given up on religion are really just going back to the roots of righteousness and watching the others dangling like fruits on the outer limbs.

**Dale Mabry** · 05-03-2005, 07:46 PM

Pagan.

ihateschoolmt · 05-03-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

They fight like crazy over the exact details when the big picture tells them to be tolerant of one another they all basically have the same foundation,

I said that at a baptist church one time, everyone freaked out.

maniclion · 05-03-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

I said that at a baptist church one time, everyone freaked out.

Wow you got Baptists to dance, and they did the freak?

maniclion · 05-03-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Pagan.

Not with testimonies and witnessing like this?
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...postcount=39:D (How many times do you crap per day...)

GSXR750 · 05-03-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

I think that the many of us who have given up on religion are really just going back to the roots of righteousness and watching the others dangling like fruits on the outer limbs.

Thats an awesome analogy.

maniclion · 05-04-2005, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GSXR750

Thats an awesome analogy.

Thank You

Flex · 05-04-2005, 11:25 AM

Great point, Manic.

Meanwhile the fucking religious fanatics all over the world blow themselves up and killing other people trying to prove their religion is "da bomb".

BigDyl · 05-04-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

Great point, Manic.

Meanwhile the fucking religious fanatics all over the world blow themselves up and killing other people trying to prove their religion is "da bomb".

I guess it really is the bomb after all. Pun intended.

Eggs · 05-04-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

I just like to look at the history of these religions and how the influences had trickled through the millenias. They fight like crazy over the exact details when the big picture tells them to be tolerant of one another they all basically have the same foundation, they're all seeded in the same basic righteousness but they fanned out so wide they can't reach the base anymore. I think that the many of us who have given up on religion are really just going back to the roots of righteousness and watching the others dangling like fruits on the outer limbs.

You just now learning that Manic? That should have been a first or second year world history elective. If you haven't taken a good one, I suggest finding a good professor who is both a tough bastard and liberal in his interpretation. Some of the old school ones are bogged down I think. Anyways, I had a few really good ones that tought World History and various humanities courses in that realm, and it was some of the best time I've had in college.

But yeah, it is funny (and enlightening) to see how memes get passed on.

maniclion · 05-04-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eggs

You just now learning that Manic? That should have been a first or second year world history elective. If you haven't taken a good one, I suggest finding a good professor who is both a tough bastard and liberal in his interpretation. Some of the old school ones are bogged down I think. Anyways, I had a few really good ones that tought World History and various humanities courses in that realm, and it was some of the best time I've had in college.

But yeah, it is funny (and enlightening) to see how memes get passed on.

Not just learning it, but I heard something on the radio this weekend about the way Buddha would have viewed our world now and it got me thinking about it the pasts of religions and how intertwined they are, especially these.

Eggs · 05-04-2005, 03:36 PM

Yes, Zoroastrianism has had a huge impact on the world. Ideas that were first passed to Judaism, then to Christianity, then to Islam. Parts of it have probably actually intertwined themselves in more religions than that, those are just the ones I am most familiar with. Abraham was certainly around religions that had a profound impact on what would one day be Judaism.

From an athiestic viewpoint of course.

05-03-2005, 04:45 PM	#1
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 17,904 Photos: 10	All Jews, Christians, Muslims would be going to hell.... that's right you all would have been going to hell had the Jews not been Exiled and met the Persians who introduced them to Zoroastrian monotheism before the Exile they believed everyone went to a Hades like place called Sheol(Hell). After a little mingling with the new religion suddenly heaven appeared in their thinking as well as later in Christianity the concept of Satan and the Apocalypse and the messiah, as well as guardian angels, etc. as well as the connections to Islam has to Judaism. I just like to look at the history of these religions and how the influences had trickled through the millenias. They fight like crazy over the exact details when the big picture tells them to be tolerant of one another they all basically have the same foundation, they're all seeded in the same basic righteousness but they fanned out so wide they can't reach the base anymore. I think that the many of us who have given up on religion are really just going back to the roots of righteousness and watching the others dangling like fruits on the outer limbs.

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Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	Great point, Manic. Meanwhile the fucking religious fanatics all over the world blow themselves up and killing other people trying to prove their religion is "da bomb".
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05-04-2005, 03:36 PM	#12
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Yes, Zoroastrianism has had a huge impact on the world. Ideas that were first passed to Judaism, then to Christianity, then to Islam. Parts of it have probably actually intertwined themselves in more religions than that, those are just the ones I am most familiar with. Abraham was certainly around religions that had a profound impact on what would one day be Judaism. From an athiestic viewpoint of course.