Vieope

What the hell is going on? This is my second thread (Let her post peacefully) closed in less than a few weeks without a proper justification, just because people didn´t agree with what a moderator did or said? That is insane.

You can see the thread (Let her post peacefully) , she wasn´t jumped on, people just didn´t agree with her, so what? People don´t agree with people everyday here. Last time I checked this was a discussion forum, not an agreement forum.

Var

Its always the damn cops!

But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.

-N. Machiavelli

Jenny

I didn't read all the post in the last thread.. But I want to make two things clear:

1: I'm not pissed at Justin He didn't even see the pic and he's entirely entitled to his own opinion. Well, most of the time anyway I do think he should kick some little blue bunny ass though for stabbing him in the back

2: I posted my comment because I simply felt bad for the girl. She was a very attractive girl and I would have enjoyed more fitness related pictures of her very much. I am not jealous, and I do prefer my own body to hers (not saying I'm hotter than her, just that I feel pretty damn sexy in my own skin). However, I do feel bad for her. I too have posted pictures to have people tell me I'm hot, because I desperately needed to feel good about myself. When people told me I looked good it was a really good feeling, a rush and a big boost of temporary self confidence. Since then I've found other ways of feeling good about myself, much healthier and fulfilling ways. I didn't post pics in sexy underwear and definitely not masturbating, because that is taking it way too far in my opinion. I just think it's a little sad that she felt the need to do that. She should have waited until she got an offer from a magazine where they would pay her the big bucks, instead of doing it for free and have you horndogs drool over her I'm sure this girl is a nice girl, and I really don't feel any need to trash her what so ever. I just wished she didn't feel the need to boost her self esteem in this very way. Of course, she could just feel these pictures were very artistic and wanted to share them, but if that was the case I think she should have chosen an art forum

dg806

It wasn't closed because of differing personal opinions. The thread was going nowhere and I did not want it to get to flaming/bashing. We have not tolerated these kind of threads, nor will we.

1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

JJJ

I thought alot of people came to IM because of some stricter moderation on other BB forums.

To close a thread because the way some people act in it, is unfair. (can I get this thread or any other thread closed if I start calling people names?)

A better solution would be personal warnings like they have at many other boards.

But what do I, know Im not a mod/admin here.

Var

Why do threads have to "go" somewhere??? We have lots of meaningless Open Chat threads that last forever...never amounting to better than a handful of dingle-berries. Some lead to flaming, some dont. Seems to me that the preemptive approach takes away from the culture of the board quite a bit and is getting more and more common here. I'd hate to see IM become one of those sites where members aren't free to speak their minds because saying something that isn't approved of by a mod will get their thread closed/deleted. Open Chat should be just that, OPEN. If a thread turns into a Johnny bullshit thread, dragging on for weeks with nothing but flaming, that seems like a good place to draw the line.

But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.

-N. Machiavelli

Var

...and how the hell did this thread last so long...

Just saying... (just saying...)

But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.

-N. Machiavelli

calalily1972

You are soooo right Jenny. And congrats on finding the beauty within yourself mentally and physically. You are a beautiful person

Eggs

Hrmmm, well... I think there are two sides to this.

On one side, IM just went on a new member drive that is being supported by other companies etc who are offering products. So on that side, we as members should perhaps keep ourselves in line a bit more than we have been. At least I should, and I'll let the rest of you speak for yourselves

Then on the other hand, many did come here because it is a more open environment. I dont think I saw a thread get closed for the first year or two I was here. We said whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted.

But there seemed to be less pissyness in our posts... and more of a group atmosphere. Perhaps we are doing ourselves and the board a disservice by allowing our everyday emotions get involved when we should just try to have a good time on here and help others to have a good time.

So anyways, I think the moderators should be careful with what they close... but we could probably make it alot easier for them by keeping tabs on our forked tongues more often.

Oh, and I think that some of you people should pay the piper and become elite members. Most of us have gotten alot of use out of the boards here and had a great time. The price isnt much more than a month on Everquest last I checked... and its showing support for a board that you get alot out of

Jenny

Thanks Jodi You are a beautiful person too

dg806

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Flex

ya, that's happening alot lately.

disagree with a mod and you're like the bird on the right:

You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.


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Flex

So the girl took some risque pics of herself, big deal.

You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.


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Dale Mabry

No one is saying that you are not wrong and are not entitled to your opinion. When you feel the need to post someting like that, what is the point. Talk about a thread going nowhere, how does calling someone an attention whore lead to something productive. If you were truly trying to help the girl a PM would have been more appropriate.

Titties.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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calalily1972

I wasn't trying to help her. I was commenting on Jenny's post and her finding beauty in herself.

I never said my comment was suppose to go anyway or be productive, I was stating my opinion. How is it that you guys making gawking and googling posts being productive anway? It's not, it's your opinion which we are all entitled to.

Little Wing

i don't feel sorry for nor do i see the need to protect some girl who persued a married man with two children and followed him here like some strange stalker when he tried to tell her to back off. as anyone knows i am certainly not opposed to sexy pics, flirting n so on but i really don't think we need to provide a warm welcome to girls who come here chasing married members who are clearly not interested. even i think her pics were tacky and showed an extreme lack of personal dignity. jodi was right that this girl is an attention whore and i really don't think it was a big horrid thing for her to say so. i have done my share of attention seeking and think the term is funny and suits some people here just fine the more serious, dedicated and focused members have every right to roll their eyes at the fluff here and if alliwantisyou had been serious about being here to train or get in shape jodi would have given freely of her time to help her as she has countless others.

"MUSCLE IS TRULY GUARANTEED IF YOU WILL HONESTLY work out to BE YOUR VERY BEST -

GO FOR IT!!! BECAUSE YOU CAN!!!!!!

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Little Wing

i'm sorry your thread got closed vieope. we are still free to chase off spammers right? just not people trying to destroy a members marriage.

"MUSCLE IS TRULY GUARANTEED IF YOU WILL HONESTLY work out to BE YOUR VERY BEST -

GO FOR IT!!! BECAUSE YOU CAN!!!!!!

Take Care, John H."

calalily1972

Nice post RG and thank you, I truly appreciate that.

There is something to say for class..............

Little Wing

you're very welcome.

"MUSCLE IS TRULY GUARANTEED IF YOU WILL HONESTLY work out to BE YOUR VERY BEST -

GO FOR IT!!! BECAUSE YOU CAN!!!!!!

Take Care, John H."

shiznit2169

calling someone an attention whore isn't really necessary either. You could have just PM'd her and explained that it was inappropriate. No need to stir up drama and what's so bad about guys drooling all over her? That's how we are, sex and bodybuilding.

Chill out

calalily1972

And all you guys could have PM'd her with your drooling instead of making an unnecessary drooling post.

We could go back and forth about this so we might as well drop it.

And if you didn't notice, again, she wasn't here for BB. She was here to stalk.

Flex

I still don't see the significance in your guys' (or actually gals') posts.

Sure, you have as much right to give your opinion on her half naked pics as much as me or anyone else, but now you're saying you did so because she was trying to destroy a marriage?

I think Rizz (I believe that's who is the man in the situation) can take care of himself. I mean damn, it's the freakin internet. If you can't handle some chick that joins a BB forum you're on, you better check yourself.

Did her pics have anything to do with bodybuilding? No, but neither does all the sexual forum shit. Alls that chick was doing was no different than shit that gets posted in the sexual forum every single day.

Have a great day

You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.


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*Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio*
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Flex

So are many members here at IM.

You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.


* Got juice?*Need Motivation?*How to Train*
*Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio*
*YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!*Ahhnold*

shiznit2169

I don't understand how our posts were unnecessary since we were giving positive feedback telling her how great she looked. You and jenny made a negative post which was not needed and could have been a PM is what i am saying. I mean, how do you know she was looking for attention or to build her self esteem? Everyone is different and maybe she likes to pose as a model, regardless of what kind of "forum" this is.

Now i'll drop it

Crono1000

admittedly I never saw the pics, but I'm reading up on these past events and the conclusion I've come to is that my opinion and no one else's opinion really is going to matter in this situation, and it will be sorely passed into the wind and eventually forgotten about.

It is true that IM is not the same place that we first migrated to, to no fault of the moderators but it is now larger than just an independent site now, it's a business. That's how we lost our Adults Only forum which was candy coated as a need to add some class to the site. Bullshit. And this thread'll probably be deleted too for the same reason, after people say side A and then side B and back again until we're all so sick of it no one cares anymore that discussion of it is no longer "allowed."

As far as these bashes on Jodi go, I don't much care for some of her actions in the past, including the ones I'm reading on now. She posted a great sticky that helped me initially on dieting and training on some forum floating around here (although I stick to the OpenChat forums nowadays) and was very grateful for it. I've seen her be very helpful to lots of dumblings asking for help on those forums. However, I lost a lot of respect for her when I saw a newblet ask about the best Creatine to use and she jumped down his throat for not just using the Search engine and finding out for himself. I bet that guy never visits these forums anymore, considering a mod attacked him straight off the bat. Sure he could have used the Search engine, just as easily as she could have either answered the question, ignored his post, or simply posted a link to the search results for "Creatine." And so I don't find it out of her character to jump down someone else's throat for something meangingless. In the same post she claims to have passed no judgement on this person but to also have called her on being an attention whore. That's all I need to hear to have a good assessment on what happened, it came straight from her mouth.

Btw, check out my gallery. There's not a single bodybuilding pic, but at least two references to penises.

Mudge

I dont even know who everyone is talking about, but unless that person has now "left the building" I somewhat doubt they want the whole world talking about the whole situation no matter what kind of pictures they took of themselves.

Different people look at things differently. Historically, Eskimo mothers in times of poor food supply would club their babies to death. Most of us look at that as barbarism, do we not? Yet it was acceptable to them. So while that is an extreme example, we are different people with different beliefs and even what some of us call "morality" being just plain different.

It doesn't burn my eyes to look at something I dont like, if I dont like it I just move on. If I think someone is in poor shape but they had the guts to post pictures of themselves, or I feel I look better in one way or another, there is no need for me to go out of my way to say that. I know I dont need to hear that from other people, so why say it to them of my own accord.

Anywho...

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Dale Mabry

Yeah, I definitely see your point, Jodi. Let's take a different situation.

A portly member posts a pic and she has lost what looks to be 20lbs, but is still portly. Member A posts, "Wow, you have really made some progress." Member B posts, "You are still fat as shit." Both are stating an opinion.

Are either one of those inappropriate? By your definition neither would be. Believe me, I would love to tell Rocco he looks like Yoko Ono after a gang bang. I just have the tact not to do so.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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Crono1000

you obviously have never read Kuso's "Nice tit" thread

Little Wing

sorry she was making my gorge rise.

now this guy here...





nice pic but let's say he has his hand down the front of his pants and he came here chasing a woman who rejected him? be a nice pic but would belong on a porn site not here and his actions would be a little creepy and scary. no less so for a woman.

"MUSCLE IS TRULY GUARANTEED IF YOU WILL HONESTLY work out to BE YOUR VERY BEST -

GO FOR IT!!! BECAUSE YOU CAN!!!!!!

Take Care, John H."

Mudge

That was a hilarious close. Kudos.

Shovanist.

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MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin
When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu