Thread: War on Drugs

America has lost its values.

An American who thinks America stands for "freedom," is a fool.

America does not represent freedom.

Americans are not free people.


Relatively speaking, yes, compared to many other countries...


George W. Bush has changed America more than any other President in the last 100 years.

well he's not doin it by himself, thats for sure! Notihng suprises me anymore about the loss of our freedoms. As long as people sit here and take it like a bunch of idiots, this is whats gonna continue to happen! Snafu is def'n right, America has lost a great deal of its founding values, no question about it. It makes me angry and ashamed to be here amongst these people who find this acceptable.

First off, There's no way that'll ever happen.

Secondly, if you DID see anything, just deny it. What could they say?

Lastly, it's bullshit, because it says a 5 year prison term if you pass someone a joint. Possession of marijuana for a first time offender right now is a fine.

Originally Posted by Flex

First off, There's no way that'll ever happen.

Secondly, if you DID see anything, just deny it. What could they say?

Lastly, it's bullshit, because it says a 5 year prison term if you pass someone a joint. Possession of marijuana for a first time offender right now is a fine.

Yes it's all ok, just relax and don't worry. You're leaders will take care of everything, just go to sleep.

First off, There's no way that'll ever happen.

Secondly, if you DID see anything, just deny it. What could they say?

Lastly, it's bullshit, because it says a 5 year prison term if you pass someone a joint. Possession of marijuana for a first time offender right now is a fine.

regardless of plausible deniability, the fact of the matter is that now this gives the law enforcement A-holes another way to harass and unjustly abuse drug users or suspected users. The rest doesn't matter my man. its all fucced up. This War has been going on since the Nixon administration and the laws have no basis on logic or science, the Harrison act or this un endning war has no foundation of rational thikning, its all fucced up and hopeless the way things are formatted now.

Originally Posted by gr81

regardless of plausible deniability, the fact of the matter is that now this gives the law enforcement A-holes another way to harass and unjustly abuse drug users or suspected users. The rest doesn't matter my man. its all fucced up. This War has been going on since the Nixon administration and the laws have no basis on logic or science, the Harrison act or this un endning war has no foundation of rational thikning, its all fucced up and hopeless the way things are formatted now.

The war on drugs was going on almost a century before the Nixon administration. The first anti-drug law was passed in 1875, the San Fransisco ordinance that outlawed the smoking of opium.

the official war as declared by the US gov started with the Nixon era, no doubt about it, the DEA was started with Nixon. The US was pretty lax when it came to drugs prior to this man. Coke and Heroin/Morphine were all thought of as godsends in this country prior to WW2, and especially around war time, Morphine changed the entire scope of the war as a matter of fact. There were actions taken, but common day Scheduling of a drug did not begin that soon, it used to be that a single piece of legislation had to be passed in order to take action against a drug. Opium was thought of as a problem, yes, but there were many reason for that. The Harrison act of 1914 had alot to do with how the country approached drugs as well. Anyway you look at it its all fucced up, the laws make no sense. Just the simple fact that Opium is a Schedule II drug and Marijuana is a Schedule I clearly displays the illogical structure of the system. Opium is the most addictive drug on the list just about, certainly FAR mroe potentially addictive and dangerous than Marijuana...

Originally Posted by gr81

the official war as declared by the US gov started with the Nixon era, no doubt about it, the DEA was started with Nixon. The US was pretty lax when it came to drugs prior to this man. Coke and Heroin/Morphine were all thought of as godsends in this country prior to WW2, and especially around war time, Morphine changed the entire scope of the war as a matter of fact. There were actions taken, but common day Scheduling of a drug did not begin that soon, it used to be that a single piece of legislation had to be passed in order to take action against a drug. Opium was thought of as a problem, yes, but there were many reason for that. The Harrison act of 1914 had alot to do with how the country approached drugs as well. Anyway you look at it its all fucced up, the laws make no sense. Just the simple fact that Opium is a Schedule II drug and Marijuana is a Schedule I clearly displays the illogical structure of the system. Opium is the most addictive drug on the list just about, certainly FAR mroe potentially addictive and dangerous than Marijuana...

My point is that a journey begins with a single step. Flex is foolish in his interpretation of the state of the drug laws. It all began in 1875 and continues still; forget the titles put on it by those who wish to deny our freedom. This war is 130 years old and getting worse every generation.

This war is 130 years old and getting worse every generation

now here's sometihng we can agree on

Originally Posted by gr81

now here's sometihng we can agree on

The sad thing is, most people think that the next generation of elected officials will see the light. After 130 years, or 6 generations it's just getting worse.

oh we need extravagently huge change on a systematic and institutional level, not just a few people, the govs entire procedure and way of thinking needs to be retooled. Drugs laws should be driven by realistic medical fact and not political pressure.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Flex is foolish in his interpretation of the state of the drug laws.

Lay off the drugs, man.

america needs to have a war on george bush! nevermind drugs! some drugs are great!

Originally Posted by Flex

Lay off the drugs, man.

It's all I have

america needs to have a war on george bush! nevermind drugs! some drugs are great!

Originally Posted by gr81

gr81 I have a question for you, have you ever heard of training each muscle group 3x a week with weights, and if so what do you think of that

foreman rules....... all i can think about when i see your picture is


"i want some crack"

Originally Posted by ABLQ2

foreman rules....... all i can think about when i see your picture is


"i want some crack"

Look out crack here I come

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

gr81 I have a question for you, have you ever heard of training each muscle group 3x a week with weights, and if so what do you think of that

I know u didnt ask me for my opinon, but to me that 1x a week is BS! Now I do believe that the larger a muscle become the longer it take to recover.

Maybe if we did like China and put drug users to death.........oh, I forgot, the U.S. citizens have became so soft and friendly its a damn shame.

gr81 I have a question for you, have you ever heard of training each muscle group 3x a week with weights, and if so what do you think of that

have I heard of it, yeah, bt not from anyone that had my respect..lol. I mean its hard to say that any one thing is always bad, b/c almost anything can be a useful tool for an amount of time. maybe briefly for a complete shock, and if you did different movements and rep ranges for each BP each time within the week it could be used, ya know what I am saying? I certainly wouldn't adopt it as my regimen very often. The major groups like back and legs would be tough to recover, the volume would have to be real low.

Maybe if we did like China and put drug users to death.........

that shit was just crazy, chinamen being shot in the back of teh head for getting caught smoking opium.. way to govern...lol!!

Originally Posted by god hand

Maybe if we did like China and put drug users to death.........oh, I forgot, the U.S. citizens have became so soft and friendly its a damn shame.

WTF................are you high?

Native Americans are allowed to smoke Peyote at certain times during the year. What about them?

Well in England we have downgraded canabis to CLASS C drugs from CLASS B a few years back now, so we can concentrate on the bad ass drugs/dealers like heroin etc, extasy is also class A because of the sudden deaths you here in newspapers and the grand problem of it.

Anabolic steriods over here are CLASS C but under section 4 b of the medical control act, which means they are not illegal without a prescription as long as they are for personal use only and are not counterfit.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

WTF................are you high?

lol, well....do u got a better plan to get drugs off the street?

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem." Jospeh Stalin

Originally Posted by gr81

that shit was just crazy, chinamen being shot in the back of teh head for getting caught smoking opium.. way to govern...lol!!

Hmmm......Yet they have a better crime rate than us.

lol, well....do u got a better plan to get drugs off the street?

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem." Jospeh Stalin

man you must beon some shit to quoting Stalin dude...Are you suggesting we just kill everyone? Great plan buddy... Drugs will never be off the streets or out of our culture b/c they are intrinsic to man's most basic inhibitions, do you understand your own brain chemistry? We don't need to eradicate drugs at all, theres nothing any more inherantly wrong with drugs than any thing else in our society, they have just been demonized to no end. We need to spend less time judging and condemning and more time learning and educating. Money should be spent on drug education and treatment, not prevention and jail terms, thats the biggest problem, fighting a war we will never win against ourselves. Trying to legislate against whats in our minds will never work, and it makes an evil of things that are not realy evil, only a group of people has deemed it so.