Thread: Oh....my.....God........

Originally Posted by god hand

http://www.halturnershow.com/IsraeliAtrocities.html

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That is the biggest load of Horseshit I have ever seen.

Who the Fuck is Hal Turner???

Why did Arafat refuse an independent Palestinian State in October 2000?

I just stumbled upon an incredible interview on Ha'Aretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) with Israel's Former foreign minister Shlomo Ben-Ami.

In October of 2000, with the help of President Clinton, Palestinian Chairman Arafat and Israel's prime minister Ehud Barak tried to reach a final agreement in Camp David. In exchange for peace, Israel offered Arafat an independent Palestinian State, 95% of the West Bank and Gaza and half of Jerusalem as described in the history page.

Arafat refused and the Palestinians started their homicide/suicide bombings and their current attempt to destroy Israel.

Mr. Ben-Ami kept a diary of the peace talks with Arafat and the Palestinians at Camp David. In this interview he gives many details on how and why Arafat and the Palestinians refused peace and a state of their own. The bottom line is that the Palestinians are not interested in peace and Arafat lives within myths - practical matters are not his concern. Here are a few excerpts:

"After a time, Clinton became boiling mad and started shouting terribly. He told Abu Ala that this wasn't a speech at the United Nations, and that the Palestinians had to come up with positive proposals of their own. Clinton shouted that no one would be able to get everything he wanted and that he too would like to serve a third term as president, but he knew that was impossible. He turned completely red and finally got up and stalked out. Abu Ala was deeply offended. From that moment, almost the only thing he did at Camp David was drive around the lawns in a golf cart."

Didn't the Palestinians make a counterproposal?

"No. And that is the heart of the matter. Never, in the negotiations between us and the Palestinians, was there a Palestinian counterproposal. There never was and there never will be. So the Israeli negotiator always finds himself in a dilemma: Either I get up and walk out because these guys aren't ready to put forward proposals of their own, or I make another concession. In the end, even the most moderate negotiator reaches a point where he understands that there is no end to it."

"But there is something deeper here. Barak, as you known, is a Cartesian type. So what happened there between the cabins and the lawns of Maryland was really an encounter between a person who was looking for a rational settlement and another person who talks myths and embodies myths. And that encounter didn't work. In retrospect, I understand that it could never have worked. I believe today that no rational Israeli leader could have succeeded in reaching a settlement with Arafat at that encounter. The man is simply not built that way."

Yes I do find this shit verrrrrrrrrrrrry hard to believe.

Now not all, but allot of thing written here are correct.
The Israeli's have been doing this shit for years now, with assistance from the U.S. (of course for money) It alls started when a few decades ago the Israeli's where the suffering side they where treated like shit, and the Palestinians where doing this to them, then some juwish guy went into a Mosque and started to blast at the praying people, he Murdered all of them. and ever since they just kill each other.
and you could say Israel is "winning" but the bombing's by the Palestinians are feared by all Israeli.
But I do want to say that Israel sucks ass they should go somewhere else because they just stole the land there on, like the Muslims would come to America and just take over Newyork(the state) and then call it the Muslim country and defend it with weapons from Russia.

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

Now not all, but allot of thing written here are correct.
The Israeli's have been doing this shit for years now, with assistance from the U.S. (of course for money) It alls started when a few decades ago the Israeli's where the suffering side they where treated like shit, and the Palestinians where doing this to them, then some juwish guy went into a Mosque and started to blast at the praying people, he Murdered all of them. and ever since they just kill each other.
and you could say Israel is "winning" but the bombing's by the Palestinians are feared by all Israeli.
But I do want to say that Israel sucks ass they should go somewhere else because they just stole the land there on, like the Muslims would come to America and just take over Newyork(the state) and then call it the Muslim country and defend it with weapons from Russia.

HANK, are those tits or ass in your avatar?

Originally Posted by god hand

HANK, are those tits or ass in your avatar?

Man,I don't know what you can do to your ass man, but if you can do that shit, you better join the bitch that can pull out a nut while you are wearing pants with her bare hands. you two will make a nice couple. (that's ass clapping, you hear)

god hand - fuck you for posting that

ronnie coleman guy-

number of muslim countries: 26
number of jewish countries: 1

Muslims (and everyone else) have historically hated the Jews, regardless of this territory battle. Without US support - Israel would have been destroyed decades ago.

Read what theUnit wrote above...

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

But I do want to say that Israel sucks ass they should go somewhere else because they just stole the land there on, like the Muslims would come to America and just take over Newyork(the state) and then call it the Muslim country and defend it with weapons from Russia.

To say they stole is is subject to debate. It is where Judaism (and then Christianity) began over 3000 years ago. Wars over the centuries saw it change hands repeatedly, until it was under British control after World War I. Britian wanted to split the territory into two states, one Arab, the other Jewish - particulary because so many Jews had moved there escaping persecution in various areas of Europe (and then genocide in WWII). The Arab side became Jordan - but arabs still did not want a jewish state there so when it became Israel - war ensued and further territory changed hands all of which is still being fought over today.

Originally Posted by animalmachine

To say they stole is is subject to debate. It is where Judaism (and then Christianity) began over 3000 years ago. Wars over the centuries saw it change hands repeatedly, until it was under British control after World War I. Britian wanted to split the territory into two states, one Arab, the other Jewish - particulary because so many Jews had moved there escaping persecution in various areas of Europe (and then genocide in WWII). The Arab side became Jordan - but arabs still did not want a jewish state there so when it became Israel - war ensued and further territory changed hands all of which is still being fought over today.

Ok man listen up, the most important mosque is located in Jerusalem, so they have a reason to be there to. but i don't know who you are but i don't feel like discussing this shit over here, it's not going to make any difference what so ever. so just blaze one up for me man, and chill.

Originally Posted by animalmachine

god hand - fuck you for posting that

I'm actually going to side with godhand for a change. Why the hell shouldn't he have posted it? It's not like he made the damn thing. He found something, thought it was disturbing, and put it on here for us to discuss. Should everyone not post because others may get their panties in a twist?

agreed - it's a never ending argument with many more variables that I didn't bother to mention, that's why the predicament continues - sorry, I just couldn't let the "Israel sucks ass they should go somewhere else" go unchecked

Originally Posted by irontime

I'm actually going to side with godhand for a change. Why the hell shouldn't he have posted it? It's not like he made the damn thing. He found something, thought it was disturbing, and put it on here for us to discuss. Should everyone not post because others may get their panties in a twist?

You are right. My apologies - mildy pissed off today

Originally Posted by god hand

HANK, are those tits or ass in your avatar?

Tits??? do you even know what they look like?

Originally Posted by animalmachine

You are right. My apologies - mildy pissed off today

Not a problem buddy. We all get a little bitchy every now and then.

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

The Muslims would come to America and just take over Newyork(the state) and then call it the Muslim country and defend it with weapons from Russia

Bring em' on...

I got me a truck, and some weapons from america (and China)

They think the Jews are bad on them...

Wait till they see the first wave of militia from Kentucky

What tha hell was the 6 day war about? Which bastards started it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War