Thread: Favorite bible verses... (for believers or those who hope to believe)

Philippians 4:13

I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me.

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

Philippians 4:13

I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me.

Gotta love that one.......

Leviticus 25:44-46
"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed posses, provided you buy them from among the neighboring nations. You may also buy them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such as slaves you may own as chattels, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, making them perpetual slaves.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Leviticus 25:44-46
"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed posses, provided you buy them from among the neighboring nations. You may also buy them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such as slaves you may own as chattels, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, making them perpetual slaves.



almost sounds like fox news.

And if you are a slave you are to serve your master with all that is in you... If he ask you the tend to 3 things tend to 4... For it's not him that you will be serving but God. In all you do no matter what it is do your best! Do it as unto God and not man...



almost sounds like something Christ would say.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

yes you agree with Jesus that people should own other people......good job buddy, your proving the evils of Christ for me

Christ spoke that Nope... You missed the point entirely...

Originally Posted by bkc

Christ spoke that Nope... You missed the point entirely...

No my friend you did....one of the dozens of times Jesus and his followers embraced human slavery...

Its a direct quote from your Bible

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

No my friend you did....one of the dozens of times Jesus and his followers embraced human slavery...

Its a direct quote from your Bible

What you wrote yes... What I wrote no...

Show me where Christ encouraged slavery I haven't read that passage...

Originally Posted by bkc

What you wrote yes... What I wrote no...

Show me where Christ encouraged slavery I haven't read that passage...

I gave you the Writer the chapter and the verse....

Deuteronomy 20:13-14
and the Lord, your God, delivers it into your hand, put every male in it to the sword; but the women and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth plundering you may take as tour booty, and you may use this plunder of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you.

I love how they pick and choose as it suits them...

The stories written, are so vauge a lot of the time...
You can spin it to mean whatever you want -

Ok the new testament.......this is where it gets ugly
Matthew 10:24-25
No pupil outranks his teacher, no slave his master. The pupil should be glad to become like his teacher, the slave like his master.

Genesis 1:12

And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Ok the new testament.......this is where it gets ugly
Matthew 10:24-25
No pupil outranks his teacher, no slave his master. The pupil should be glad to become like his teacher, the slave like his master.

these are the quotes you are using to say Jesus promoted slavery? i must admit i was a little bit worried that i might have overlooked something when you mentioned slaves and the bible. i am greatly relieved this is what you chose as your proof Jesus promoted slavery. these are extremly weak, and even a non-believer of the bible will correctly understand these verses with a very brief and minimal understanding of the context. try harder my friend.

and dont ever call me a slave.

this thread was intended for believers or those who hope to believe. what are you even doing here anyway foreman? you dont even come close to either category. why screw with someones thread when you have so many other threads to add your 2 cents to?

well your obscure verses from the first 5 books of the old teastament are a joke because when Jesus came he fulfilled the Law of Moses and gave a higher law. my meaning of that is he gave people a higher law. ie. thou shalt not commit adultery is now thou shalt not look upon a woman to lust after her.

your pale attempt at using the new teastament is even easier. (by the way just because the word slave appears in the new teastament doesnt mean Jesus advocated slavery, what a foolish idea.) Jesus is a master teacher and uses examples that his audience will readilly understand if they wish to listen. slavery was a fact of life in the Roman times, of which the Jewish people were a part during the time of Christ. (some Jews even had Roman masters, though it was not custom for Jews to own slaves at that time.) Just becuse he used the example of a slave to better help his audience understand the principle he was teaching does not mean he promoted slavery.

i must say you are usually an educated individual with an interesting point of view on most topics, yet on religion and christianity you are quite juvenile. stop wasting my time and others on this thread.

one of my favorites james 2:17-18

Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and i have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and i will shew thee my faith by may works.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

well your obscure verses from the first 5 books of the old teastament are a joke because when Jesus came he fulfilled the Law of Moses and gave a higher law. my meaning of that is he gave people a higher law. ie. thou shalt not commit adultery is now thou shalt not look upon a woman to lust after her.

your pale attempt at using the new teastament is even easier. (by the way just because the word slave appears in the new teastament doesnt mean Jesus advocated slavery, what a foolish idea.) Jesus is a master teacher and uses examples that his audience will readilly understand if they wish to listen. slavery was a fact of life in the Roman times, of which the Jewish people were a part during the time of Christ. (some Jews even had Roman masters, though it was not custom for Jews to own slaves at that time.) Just becuse he used the example of a slave to better help his audience understand the principle he was teaching does not mean he promoted slavery.Show me one teaching where he said it was wrong and a sin to his father

i must say you are usually an educated individual with an interesting point of view on most topics, yet on religion and christianity you are quite juvenile. stop wasting my time and others on this thread.

Its funny to hear Bible thumper say that any verse from the Bible is obscure.
And like I said this is just 3 divinely inspired teachings of dozens......I'm looking forward to you demeaning the word of God. And also to you twisting his teachings to suit your prosaic beliefs.

This is hardly the board for this, bio. Too many people here are intent on attacking religion any & every chance they get... all you'll get is ridicule, as you've already seen.

A religious person is not necessarily a Bible thumper. Too few people actually practice what they preach & when they do, they're branded a fanatic. Being religious doesn't necessarily make you a fanatic.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

A religious person is not necessarily a Bible thumper. Too few people actually practice what they preach & when they do, they're branded a fanatic. Being religious doesn't necessarily make you a fanatic.

I agree 100%.................but Bio is not of what you say.

im willing to openly talk about all subjects, and im well aware of the intent of foreman and others. yet it doesnt change my belief in the bible or Christ. and those who look at this thread will see the truth of what is being posted. im also trying to add to the original intent of this thread by sharing some of my favorites from the bible. i have no need to twist or distort the bible or its teachings, the truth is evident of itself. to those who wish to understand.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree 100%.................but Bio is not of what you say.

and how is that foreman? what do you know about me or the way i live my life?

Originally Posted by bio-chem

im willing to openly talk about all subjects, and im well aware of the intent of foreman and others. yet it doesnt change my belief in the bible or Christ. and those who look at this thread will see the truth of what is being posted. im also trying to add to the original intent of this thread by sharing some of my favorites from the bible. i have no need to twist or distort the bible or its teachings, the truth is evident of itself. to those who wish to understand.

Don't change the subject.....this isn't Fox news.....you have three Bible quotes ( that you so disrespectfully call obscure) to explain.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

im willing to openly talk about all subjects, and im well aware of the intent of foreman and others. yet it doesnt change my belief in the bible or Christ. and those who look at this thread will see the truth of what is being posted. im also trying to add to the original intent of this thread by sharing some of my favorites from the bible. i have no need to twist or distort the bible or its teachings, the truth is evident of itself. to those who wish to understand.

I understand. It never threatens my beliefs either, but it is occasionally offensive when something very important to me is belittled & mocked maliciously. I try not to get involved in most of the religious threads now.. occasionally I still do...

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I understand. It never threatens my beliefs either, but it is occasionally offensive when something very important to me is belittled & mocked maliciously. I try not to get involved in most of the religious threads now.. occasionally I still do...

All I did was quote the word of God in the Bible.......how does that offend you??

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

All I did was quote the word of God in the Bible.......how does that offend you??

I wasn't talking about you or anyone in particular; just that religious talk in general usually ends up ugly.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I wasn't talking about you or anyone in particular; just that religious talk in general usually ends up ugly.

again I agree 100%.

2 things you should never argue about - religion and politics. But by all means, argue away...