Thread: How Many IM Gun Owners

I have a remington 12g pump, a winchester 12g semi-auto and a Ruger GP100 .357 magnum

AR-15, Semi Auto M4 Config, incomplete(Ive been building it up piece by piece)
Im 21 this Sept 22 so Im debating adding a little one to the family
FNP-9, USP .45 Tact, or a Five seveN. The later of the two would run me about $1000 So maybe Ill go with the 9mm.. or for now just finish the ARF

BTW You should be able to delete the other thread yourself I think- there should be a,"Delete this message/thread" box at the top, select the "delete this thread" button, and click the delete button and it should poof I think

oh, my ruger has a 6" barrel

Originally Posted by Chain Link

AR-15, Semi Auto M4 Config, incomplete(Ive been building it up piece by piece)
Im 21 this Sept 22 so Im debating adding a little one to the family
FNP-9, USP .45 Tact, or a Five seveN. The later of the two would run me about $1000 So maybe Ill go with the 9mm.. or for now just finish the ARF

BTW You should be able to delete the other thread yourself I think- there should be a,"Delete this message/thread" box at the top, select the "delete this thread" button, and click the delete button and it should poof I think

WHAT DO YOU NEED A USP .45 FOR?! KILLING A DEER?!

I looked right after I happened it wasnt there, thanks Chain Link.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

I have a remington 12g pump, a winchester 12g semi-auto and a Ruger GP100 .357 magnum

I have always like rugers revolvers better then all other revolver Ive shot.

I have a Springfield XD9, But I want now either a Beretta Steel I 92 ,or build my own 1911 from a Springfield A1-1911 frame. Not sure yet.
Any suggestions

i have a glock 23 with upgrades...walther p99 40cal....glock 26...mossy 590a1 with a tactical stock...im currently looking on a good deal on an ar15

Hey the ar15 is really popular right now, witch I don't understand because it's really small and needs 141.934.235.345 mods and upgrades to do anything at all.

No no, not a USP .45, a USP .45 Tactical. It has better accuracy, and a threaded O-Ring to equip a silencer with. It also has a match grade trigger and raised sights for use with the silencer.


Jeez, Id have expected you to ask what the Next generation body armor piercing capable FiveseveN was for, but I was wrong.


For the record- The FivenseveN for unmatched accuracy, range, and a 20 round clip so I wouldnt be putting strain on the spring with like 7 rounds. Its also light, slim, and damn cool looking which is a plus in my book
Granted the AP ammo is not civvie legal, and You would have to custom load your own to get it to the armor piercing level. Its also a weak round, claimed similar to 9mm, but I also hear otherwise.

The USP .45 Tactical is for the confidence of hitting what you intend to break, or kill. With the great accuracy, and power of the .45 round you only need one round to stop your TV from floating away in the dark of the night(LOL, Chain Link, prepare to be flamed!) The silencer could be damn useful if I ever decide to go target shooting in my back yard; I can just put the targets on the wall of my neighbors house(away from windows, wouldnt want to break those)

And the M4gery is for fighting off the bloody king of England.

For those most part my attraction to guns is the same as someone's attraction to a '59 mustang or some other unreasonable expensive and kind of ugly car. Im more of a collector than a shooter; But Im also a good shooter. I also have a concrete safe built into my house so I dont have to worry about someone else stealing the and using them for purposes I wouldnt enjoy(esp against me )
And in the unlikely case some sick fuq goes off shooting people in my neighborhood, it would be nice to see a headline read,"Armed civilian owns *randomassholecriminal*" But that will never happen

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

Hey the ar15 is really popular right now, witch I don't understand because it's really small and needs 141.934.235.345 mods and upgrades to do anything at all.

You're right, For half the cost you could get a semi auto AK which has similar accuracy(but less) than an M4gery, and a more powerful round.

My reason is because I like the AR 15- The history, the fact that its an American designed, made, and adopted by the military rifle. The high modability is a plus IMO. You can have a M4-style which is like a semi auto SMG with great range and accuracy, or in one minute switch out the upper and have a 20" barrel with a free float tube, RIS, and long range scope making it one heck of a semi-auto sniper rifle.
As a semi auto sniper its actually cheaper than many of the others of its class.

just the one between my legs. All other types are against the law to possess in Mexico

Originally Posted by Chain Link

You're right, For half the cost you could get a semi auto AK which has similar accuracy(but less) than an M4gery, and a more powerful round.

My reason is because I like the AR 15- The history, the fact that its an American designed, made, and adopted by the military rifle. The high modability is a plus IMO. You can have a M4-style which is like a semi auto SMG with great range and accuracy, or in one minute switch out the upper and have a 20" barrel with a free float tube, RIS, and long range scope making it one heck of a semi-auto sniper rifle.
As a semi auto sniper its actually cheaper than many of the others of its class.

You could go buy a winchester-70 or a rem-700 and
have yourself a full blown counter sniper setup for $300-400
(more reliable, easier to get ammo in the bush, way more power)

Originally Posted by Chain Link

one heck of a semi-auto sniper rifle.


As a semi auto sniper

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

You could go buy a winchester-70 or a rem-700 and
have yourself a full blown counter sniper setup for $300-400
(more reliable, easier to get ammo in the bush, way more power)

Those are both bolt action though. Agreed- Both more accurate, reliable(What fails on a Bolt Action Rifle, lol?), and powerful; but still not semi auto
But Im gonna keep those in mind in case I ever want a bolt action. I'd perfer a .338 laupa
http://www.impactguns.com/store/3178900993.html
but $8,700 is slightly outrageous when I could get a .50BMG semi auto for $7,200 http://www.impactguns.com/store/BAR-82A1SWED.html ;
$400 for a .308 sounds MUCH better!

Heres an apparently(?) mercenary US Sniper in Iraq using an AR-15 setup. http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/267...&htv=12&htv=12 Not sure what use a civvie would legally find aside from some plinking under any likely circumstances; same goes for a fire extiguisher

Edit: And for those wondering if Im insane.. I just enjoy having the best

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

just the one between my legs. All other types are against the law to possess in Mexico

you're kidding, right?

The current record for longest range sniper kill is 2,430 metres (7,972 ft), reportedly accomplished by a Canadian sniper in 2002, during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan bolt-action rifle

Rapid fire rifles are made for assault, or to be used by soldiers
who are less than skilled marksmen... IE, to lay down cover fire

Just because you can shoot really fast with a semi auto rifle
doesn't mean you will hit anything -

BOLT ACTION at work -

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

The current record for longest range sniper kill is 2,430 metres (7,972 ft), reportedly accomplished by a Canadian sniper in 2002, during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan bolt-action rifle

Rapid fire rifles are made for assault, or to be used by soldiers
who are less than skilled marksmen... IE, to lay down cover fire

Just because you can shoot really fast with a semi auto rifle
doesn't mean you will hit anything -

Id say semi would be useful for engaging multiple targets at a closer range than a bolt could manage. Longer range doesnt help much if you're overrun, so it has its uses. Personally if I were picking something for sniping Id go with bolt. I was just saying that as a semi auto sniper rifle, despite being an AR 15, its actually one of the more cost effective of its class
As for the .50BMG semi preference to a Bolt .338.. the .50BMG is going to take out people, vehicles, and just about anything else at a range they arent even a threat to you; the .338 would only be more useful to fill the need of counter sniping IMO; and a Bolt .50BMG with a 36" barrel would stand king over everything- If I had one of those, Id invent an exterior device to chamber the next round, and belt feed the sum'bitch so the ownage would never stop
You're right though, the usefulness of rapid fire decreases with range.. This is also why SMGs are full auto.

I dont plan on doing any sniping though; and in the impossible chance should anything ever happen, the M4gery has sufficient range in the suburbs; meanwhile Ill settle for plinking Bin-Laden Silhouette targets

Ive seen that video somewhere before, thats a .50, right? Arent .50BMG,"supposed" to be against Geneva conventions to use on people?
Ive heard in the army they teach you not to shoot people with them; but if you need to you can shoot their water bottle, or binoculars and if it just happens to hit them.. well, shit happens

.338 win mag, is supposed to be the most versitle game hunting cartridge
(I have one in browning a-bolt)

I think the military uses .338 lapua mag -

Yep... here we go...


STINGS LIKE A BEE: The .338 Lapua and the ERMA SR100 It consistently outperforms NATO's most common-used sniper rifles, claims an MOA of .2, and can pierce body armor at ranges of up to 1,000 meters. Since its inception, the .338-chambered SR100 sniper rifle has been a popular -- and deadly -- preference for sharpshooters.


A mighty one-two combination: The .338 Lapua and the ERMA SR100 (Photo

I have a MAK 90 Semi auto, Beretta 9mm, Bersa Thunder .380 and a Beretta .22

drool~~~
I just read though, that rifle run $9000 in .308 alone, .338 is probably killer(finacially)

Just curious; whats the more accurate/powerful round- .338 Win Mag, or 30-06?

Not yet.....but soon

Originally Posted by Chain Link

whats the more accurate/powerful round- .338 Win Mag, or 30-06?

.338 is brutal

I use custom 250 grain sierra game king boattail rounds for my .338
They are the perfect balance of speed, range and accuracy - IMO

I don't think the 30-06 is as sensitive to loads,
however I never experimented with it
I use military ammo in mine -

http://glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/410970-1.html

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not yet.....but soon

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

http://glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/410970-1.html

that awnsered my question-
.338 is larger, and more powerful, but recoil is, like you said, brutal. 30-06 they claim to be reasonable on the recoil.
Not sure what I would go with, but if I get a bolt its going to be .338 Win Mag, 30-06, or (and only) if its signifigantly cheaper, a .308

What would you plan on doing with a bolt action rifle???

IMO...
(And I tend to always do this)

If you want a bolt action...

Go with the .308...

That way you can always scarf up nato ammo
if need be..

Also, the same rounds can be used in
any M14, FAL, IMBEL, or ar10 style rifles

I dont know, but they're sounding really f*cking cool right now!

Hunting, Hunting is always an excuse! One thing I know is that you can use a caliber too small when hunting; however, you can never use a round too big.

For instance, you and your uncle go deer hunting. You bring your .50BMG..
Your uncle will be saying something like,"I love hunting.. Rolling around in the dirt, taking a day off where your main goal is to do nothing but lie around. Then to top it off, you get to eat venison, which is awesome! But you know what I hate? Gutting the deer, I feel so bad for"

BAM!!!

You say,"I dont think you'll have to worry about that Jerry." And then the top half of the deer starts raining down from above. Your uncle sees none of this, of course, because the deer was a mile away. If you're in a building, he will be firmly affixed to the ceiling for hours if its his first time hearing a .50..
You shoot it with a .223 and it lives, however, then you feel bad for wounding it