Mayor Ray Nagin from New Orleans

Vieope · 09-02-2005, 09:06 AM

I am not american, I don´t even like politics but the interview that the mayor of New Orleans gave on a radio staion and was on CNN was amazing. Damn.
I think you should consider that guy to be a president.

Vieope · 09-02-2005, 09:07 AM

Watch CNN, the interview will be on again.

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 10:44 AM

He let the federal government have it - the Republican Party will launch a massive smear campaign by Monday.

goandykid · 09-02-2005, 11:33 AM

Quotes?

goandykid · 09-02-2005, 11:55 AM

"Someone needs to get their ass on a plane and get down here and figure it out," he said, calling on President George W. Bush to be more responsive to the crisis that's taken hold of his city. "Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed. They are feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. They don't have homes. They don't have jobs. The city of New Orleans will never be the same."

goandykid · 09-02-2005, 11:55 AM

Good for him.

Rob_NC · 09-02-2005, 12:28 PM

Yes, but why wasn't he more proactive in getting these people out of town BEFORE the storm. Afterall, he had 2 days to do it. I place a lot of blame on him.

MyK · 09-02-2005, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob_NC

Yes, but why wasn't he more proactive in getting these people out of town BEFORE the storm. Afterall, he had 2 days to do it. I place a lot of blame on him.

the guys a fucking retard. you have a city below sea level, on the coast, and the damn is built for a level three hurricane. what did he think was gonna happen when a category 4 or 5 hit.

he has a city thats got oil, tourism, fishing, and shrimping industries, and yet it seems like most of the population is at the poverty line. It ridiculous how poor the city was run!

busyLivin · 09-02-2005, 12:57 PM

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i9120

NEW ORLEANS (AP) “He looks stoned to me.” He looks like a man who can't decide whether to run away or stuff his head in the oven!” Comments like these were heard all over Louisiana as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin made statements on TV in the midst of still-rising waters in the Big Easy. “I just don’t know why this Hurricane Katrina thing hit here. I don’t know what to do about those big holes in the levees. Being a mayor of a city at a time like this is hard work. I really can’t blame all those folks who are looting now; they need food and water and I don’t have a clue how to get it to them. I'm scared I just don't know what to do!"

Asked about the Super Dome, Mayor Nagin said, “Look, stuffing tens of thousands of people into a huge building with a fabric roof seemed like a good idea when the hurricane was coming. We knew there would be no sanitation, food, or water available there and that the whole thing could flood, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Looking back, I guess I should not have been smoking that big bag of weed when that decision was made.”

“Mayor Nagin,” asked a Spoof reporter, “Are you admitting that you were under the influence of marijuana during the preparations for this hurricane?”

“What preparations are you talking about son?” replied the mayor, “All we did was pass a lot of joints around while we made ‘what if’ jokes about the levees and the po-lice. It was a great party and all the city officials had a blast. We did manage to complete all our official hurricane preparations down at the Canal Street Brothel – just like usual.”

“I’m sorry that all you national TV reporters keep on comparing me with Rudy Giuliani… New York and New Orleans are different kinds of places. We do things differently down in the Big Easy.”

Showing signs of being depressed by the way things have gone in New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin appeared withdrawn and freaked out. The mayor’s friends have put him on a suicide watch. “We took away his belt and gave him a pair of suspenders

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 03:24 PM

I have to admit, doesn't it seem like any time there is a National Emergency, that people all around seem to think that person should be president?

Maybe they just need to see better examples of leadership in their own lives so that they don't go around slobbing the nob whenever somebody that has to do it is on TV.

Besides which, the New Orleans leadership has completely has completely failed their people. If you want to blame the Federal government, you'd best blame the local government first

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

I have to admit, doesn't it seem like any time there is a National Emergency, that people all around seem to think that person should be president?

Maybe they just need to see better examples of leadership in their own lives so that they don't go around slobbing the nob whenever somebody that has to do it is on TV.

Besides which, the New Orleans leadership has completely has completely failed their people. If you want to blame the Federal government, you'd best blame the local government first

Oh the feds knew damned well the risks facing New Orleans....From a 2001 article.

"New Orleans is sinking.

And its main buffer from a hurricane, the protective Mississippi River delta, is quickly eroding away, leaving the historic city perilously close to disaster.

So vulnerable, in fact, that earlier this year the Federal Emergency Management Agency ranked the potential damage to New Orleans as among the three likeliest, most castastrophic disasters facing this country.

The other two? A massive earthquake in San Francisco, and, almost prophetically, a terrorist attack on New York City.

The New Orleans hurricane scenario may be the deadliest of all."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474162/posts

The federal governments solution.

"In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding. It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now."

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 03:50 PM

That doesn't address the fact that the New Orleans government has done a terrible job.

In their position, shouldn't they have realized these possibilities... or perhaps given a nice little phone call to FEMA to find out? The fed cannot take full responsibility for this, because the first failure that occured, did so on city level. Then state level, then the federal level.

goandykid · 09-02-2005, 04:21 PM

How can you guys criticize him for being the mayor of New Orleans. It's not his fault it's under sea level, and he certainly couldnt have fixed that problem while in office.

"the guys a fucking retard. you have a city below sea level, on the coast, and the damn is built for a level three hurricane. what did he think was gonna happen when a category 4 or 5 hit."

I agree with the fact that there should have been better evacuation plans, but with the amount of funding he gets theres nothing he could have done to prevent the destruction, no huge, magic brick wall to place in front of the hurricane.

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

I agree with the fact that there should have been better evacuation plans, but with the amount of funding he gets theres nothing he could have done to prevent the destruction, no huge, magic brick wall to place in front of the hurricane.

Exactly, to enhance this dilemna I'll make one of my famous analogies: Due to the city being 30% impoverished the fiscal situation there is like a pocket in your jeans with a hole the size of a penny, when taxes come in the nickels and quarters stay put but the pennies and dimes fall straight through.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 04:56 PM

That was the suckiest analogy ever!

Nah, it wasn't so bad.

Okay, so you're saying it wasn't his fault, but it was everybody elses?

Cause, he like.. isn't employed to care for the city of New Orleans. Its his job to make sure that happens right? When it comes down to caring for the people there... the buck stops with him.

He should have made sure that all this shit was taken care of... or bitched, moaned and threatened until it did. Which reminds me, he's pissed off at FEMA for not knowing that the dome was filled with people for a couple of days? Don't you think he just mighta coulda been in contact during those days to see what was going on. Maybe even with a check list in hand

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

He should have made sure that all this shit was taken care of... or bitched, moaned and threatened until it did. Which reminds me, he's pissed off at FEMA for not knowing that the dome was filled with people for a couple of days? Don't you think he just mighta coulda been in contact during those days to see what was going on. Maybe even with a check list in hand

Can you imagine how bad that guys head is spinning, his entire city is destroyed, everyones looking to him for support his management skills only go as high as the municipal level potholes, traffic jams, Mardi Gras, etc., he needed help from day -2 and all the rest of the country sent him were a bunch of worthless journalists.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniclion

Can you imagine how bad that guys head is spinning, his entire city is destroyed, everyones looking to him for support his management skills only go as high as the municipal level potholes, traffic jams, Mardi Gras, etc., he needed help from day -2 and all the rest of the country sent him were a bunch of worthless journalists.

Shit, aint that true... our first responders these days are those little scribbling fanatics.

This goes to show a general lack of quality in our mayors (at least to me) and perhaps we should expect more of them. At that level, their job is more than just a simple civilian... and perhaps those that are operating important locations should be given some sort of in-depth training before taking over the job. Perhaps like a month long course somewhere.

What do you guys think? and I'm not talking about nowhereville USA, I'm talking about our critical locations.

Chain Link · 09-02-2005, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyK

the guys a fucking retard. you have a city below sea level, on the coast, and the damn is built for a level three hurricane. what did he think was gonna happen when a category 4 or 5 hit.

he has a city thats got oil, tourism, fishing, and shrimping industries, and yet it seems like most of the population is at the poverty line. It ridiculous how poor the city was run!

I would disagree that the poverty level was due to something at fault of the mayor..(not speaking on any facts here, feel free to refute me) as for everything else... yeah.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 05:23 PM

Somebody posted that because the ghetto peeps there it was obvious that there would be this kind of crime. I dont know about that.

What I'm saying is... if you've ever been Mardi Gras you shouldn't be too damn surprised. People down there know how to get crazy.

Chain Link · 09-02-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

Somebody posted that because the ghetto peeps there it was obvious that there would be this kind of crime. I dont know about that.

What I'm saying is... if you've ever been Mardi Gras you shouldn't be too damn surprised. People down there know how to get crazy.

as of 2000 Louisiana had a murder rate of 12.9 per 100,000, which is to say the least ... outrageous.

Even if poverty is the source of crime,(Which is all Ive heard since the looting started) you can still save up a few hundred dollars.. even if it takes 2 months, and get the hell out of there. Hoof it if you must, find a better area, a homeless shelter and work from there. This is America; Very few people are litterally restricted to an area. The,"impoverished" are that way and chose to live in complacentcy with poverty over *not only* working hard, but also spending their money wisely. Im not talking about investing in the stock market, getting yourself out of an,"impoverished area" alone is a big step.

In a sense, the flood has spread disease.. Imagine all the,"impoverished" people who owned no property, and, if they have a job, they no longer have it.. So they head out of state, get taken care of for a few months as a refugee, and lets be unrealistic and say the entire city was restored in a few months.. Do you really think these people are going to go through the effort of moving back to whats considered an impoverished area, when they wouldnt even get up and go to better their own lives? Better plan: Dont move back, maybe get a minimum wage job, heck, then lose it for fun; have 2(more?) kids, apply for public housing and welfare, and create a NEW impoverished area, yay!

I realize some of that may be unfair to some people, but I also believe there are plenty of people thats not nearly,"unfair" enough to.

Anyways, I had to vent, thats been bothering me since I read Utah was going to take 10,000 refugees.(Dont get me wrong, I hope everyone has a place to go, and thats nice of Utah; but Id much rather my state, or some other less important state take them)

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggs

Shit, aint that true... our first responders these days are those little scribbling fanatics.

This goes to show a general lack of quality in our mayors (at least to me) and perhaps we should expect more of them. At that level, their job is more than just a simple civilian... and perhaps those that are operating important locations should be given some sort of in-depth training before taking over the job. Perhaps like a month long course somewhere.

What do you guys think? and I'm not talking about nowhereville USA, I'm talking about our critical locations.

A Crisis Management course would be a good idea for all newly elected mayors/govenors, with a follow up Crisis Management Critique every other year to follow.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 05:58 PM

I was making a joke... but I know what you're saying Chain

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 06:02 PM

I'd hate to tell you Chainlink but some people just aren't very smart, I know it's a shock. They barely have the IQ to get the skills they need to make more than minimum wage. I'm not saying the poor are dumb, I'm saying some dumb are poor.

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 06:20 PM

It seems increasingly clear that the Mayor would have been in a much more viable position if he didn't have to wait for Condi to come home from her shopping/theater trip to sift through the many offers of assistance from foreign countries. If he had been allowed to act more independently, perhaps El Salvador could have had their troops in the streets of New Orleans long before our Administration could dispatch any American support.

kbm8795 · 09-02-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniclion

A Crisis Management course would be a good idea for all newly elected mayors/govenors, with a follow up Crisis Management Critique every other year to follow.

Not if it is being offered by FEMA.

**Mudge** · 09-02-2005, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniclion

Can you imagine how bad that guys head is spinning, his entire city is destroyed, everyones looking to him for support his management skills only go as high as the municipal level potholes, traffic jams, Mardi Gras, etc., he needed help from day -2 and all the rest of the country sent him were a bunch of worthless journalists.

He could be feeling pretty shitty, but self control in these situations is what makes a leader versus a peon. This same self control is what is demanded of even "lowly" police officers, especially riot cops.

Vieope · 09-02-2005, 07:05 PM

I still liked the interview.

Very emotional.

maniclion · 09-02-2005, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

He could be feeling pretty shitty, but self control in these situations is what makes a leader versus a peon. This same self control is what is demanded of even "lowly" police officers, especially riot cops.

He's the mayor of New Orleans I mean thats just a step above Mayor of Washington D.C and he's facing devastation beyond his grasp, I'm not making excuses but he can't take much blame for the lack of aid thus far. Definitely lack of preparation or attempt to reconcile flaws in preventative measures can be placed on his shoulders, but right now he's bitching cause it's been 4 day's with no signs of any relief.

Eggs · 09-02-2005, 07:29 PM

I think alot of the problem in this situation is just that nobody actually expected it to really happen like this.

Most people probably thought there would be some flooding, perhaps a bit of damage here and there...

But I don't think anybody actually expected it to really happen.

If we would have taken it more seriously National Guard units could have been called up the night before and put on stand-by, etc.

Ah well, its easy to judge looking back on things. I think next time though the US will be a whole lot more cautious. And also that the Homeland Security head is realizing that his job is going to be a whole lot rougher than he had originally thought.

goandykid · 09-05-2005, 06:59 PM

Does it even matter what the Mayor does? Yeah, he had an impact. Yeah, he could of done better. But what it boils down to is the most powerful, most important man in the world should have gotten his mayor in check and handled it himself. FEMA was sucked into homeland security, with a decrease in funding, half the reason they did such a shitty job in the first place. If GWB wouldn't have gone off trying to conquer the middle east, maybe we'd have some manpower and resources left to help the situation.

You can say what about the mayor, the governor, the poverty, the crime, FEMA, etc etc etc, but it all boils down to GWB fucking SOMETHING up, and if it some how didn't stem down to him, then he shouldve stepped in to solve the situation.

09-02-2005, 09:06 AM	#1
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Mayor Ray Nagin from New Orleans I am not american, I don´t even like politics but the interview that the mayor of New Orleans gave on a radio staion and was on CNN was amazing. Damn. I think you should consider that guy to be a president.

09-02-2005, 11:33 AM	#4
goandykid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,378	Quotes? You guys are going to lose. You might as well just cheer for me, because Boston isn’t winning in Boston for the season opener. I’m sorry. " - Gilbert Arenas

09-02-2005, 11:55 AM	#5
goandykid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,378	"Someone needs to get their ass on a plane and get down here and figure it out," he said, calling on President George W. Bush to be more responsive to the crisis that's taken hold of his city. "Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed. They are feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. They don't have homes. They don't have jobs. The city of New Orleans will never be the same." You guys are going to lose. You might as well just cheer for me, because Boston isn’t winning in Boston for the season opener. I’m sorry. " - Gilbert Arenas

09-02-2005, 11:55 AM	#6
goandykid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,378	Good for him. You guys are going to lose. You might as well just cheer for me, because Boston isn’t winning in Boston for the season opener. I’m sorry. " - Gilbert Arenas

09-02-2005, 12:28 PM	#7
Rob_NC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,179	Yes, but why wasn't he more proactive in getting these people out of town BEFORE the storm. Afterall, he had 2 days to do it. I place a lot of blame on him. Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.

09-02-2005, 09:07 AM	#2
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	Watch CNN, the interview will be on again.

09-02-2005, 10:44 AM	#3
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	He let the federal government have it - the Republican Party will launch a massive smear campaign by Monday.

09-02-2005, 12:57 PM	#9
busyLivin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,339	http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i9120 NEW ORLEANS (AP) “He looks stoned to me.” He looks like a man who can't decide whether to run away or stuff his head in the oven!” Comments like these were heard all over Louisiana as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin made statements on TV in the midst of still-rising waters in the Big Easy. “I just don’t know why this Hurricane Katrina thing hit here. I don’t know what to do about those big holes in the levees. Being a mayor of a city at a time like this is hard work. I really can’t blame all those folks who are looting now; they need food and water and I don’t have a clue how to get it to them. I'm scared I just don't know what to do!" Asked about the Super Dome, Mayor Nagin said, “Look, stuffing tens of thousands of people into a huge building with a fabric roof seemed like a good idea when the hurricane was coming. We knew there would be no sanitation, food, or water available there and that the whole thing could flood, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Looking back, I guess I should not have been smoking that big bag of weed when that decision was made.” “Mayor Nagin,” asked a Spoof reporter, “Are you admitting that you were under the influence of marijuana during the preparations for this hurricane?” “What preparations are you talking about son?” replied the mayor, “All we did was pass a lot of joints around while we made ‘what if’ jokes about the levees and the po-lice. It was a great party and all the city officials had a blast. We did manage to complete all our official hurricane preparations down at the Canal Street Brothel – just like usual.” “I’m sorry that all you national TV reporters keep on comparing me with Rudy Giuliani… New York and New Orleans are different kinds of places. We do things differently down in the Big Easy.” Showing signs of being depressed by the way things have gone in New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin appeared withdrawn and freaked out. The mayor’s friends have put him on a suicide watch. “We took away his belt and gave him a pair of suspenders

09-02-2005, 03:24 PM	#10
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	I have to admit, doesn't it seem like any time there is a National Emergency, that people all around seem to think that person should be president? Maybe they just need to see better examples of leadership in their own lives so that they don't go around slobbing the nob whenever somebody that has to do it is on TV. Besides which, the New Orleans leadership has completely has completely failed their people. If you want to blame the Federal government, you'd best blame the local government first

09-02-2005, 03:50 PM	#12
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	That doesn't address the fact that the New Orleans government has done a terrible job. In their position, shouldn't they have realized these possibilities... or perhaps given a nice little phone call to FEMA to find out? The fed cannot take full responsibility for this, because the first failure that occured, did so on city level. Then state level, then the federal level.

09-02-2005, 04:21 PM	#13
goandykid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,378	How can you guys criticize him for being the mayor of New Orleans. It's not his fault it's under sea level, and he certainly couldnt have fixed that problem while in office. "the guys a fucking retard. you have a city below sea level, on the coast, and the damn is built for a level three hurricane. what did he think was gonna happen when a category 4 or 5 hit." I agree with the fact that there should have been better evacuation plans, but with the amount of funding he gets theres nothing he could have done to prevent the destruction, no huge, magic brick wall to place in front of the hurricane. You guys are going to lose. You might as well just cheer for me, because Boston isn’t winning in Boston for the season opener. I’m sorry. " - Gilbert Arenas

09-02-2005, 04:56 PM	#15
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	That was the suckiest analogy ever! Nah, it wasn't so bad. Okay, so you're saying it wasn't his fault, but it was everybody elses? Cause, he like.. isn't employed to care for the city of New Orleans. Its his job to make sure that happens right? When it comes down to caring for the people there... the buck stops with him. He should have made sure that all this shit was taken care of... or bitched, moaned and threatened until it did. Which reminds me, he's pissed off at FEMA for not knowing that the dome was filled with people for a couple of days? Don't you think he just mighta coulda been in contact during those days to see what was going on. Maybe even with a check list in hand

09-02-2005, 05:23 PM	#19
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Somebody posted that because the ghetto peeps there it was obvious that there would be this kind of crime. I dont know about that. What I'm saying is... if you've ever been Mardi Gras you shouldn't be too damn surprised. People down there know how to get crazy.

09-02-2005, 05:58 PM	#22
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	I was making a joke... but I know what you're saying Chain

09-02-2005, 06:02 PM	#23
maniclion Cartographer of the Mind Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mens Incognita Posts: 20,437 Photos: 10	I'd hate to tell you Chainlink but some people just aren't very smart, I know it's a shock. They barely have the IQ to get the skills they need to make more than minimum wage. I'm not saying the poor are dumb, I'm saying some dumb are poor. "We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." Thomas Edison: In conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone

09-02-2005, 06:20 PM	#24
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	It seems increasingly clear that the Mayor would have been in a much more viable position if he didn't have to wait for Condi to come home from her shopping/theater trip to sift through the many offers of assistance from foreign countries. If he had been allowed to act more independently, perhaps El Salvador could have had their troops in the streets of New Orleans long before our Administration could dispatch any American support.

09-02-2005, 07:05 PM	#27
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,967 Photos: 10	I still liked the interview. Very emotional.

09-02-2005, 07:29 PM	#29
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	I think alot of the problem in this situation is just that nobody actually expected it to really happen like this. Most people probably thought there would be some flooding, perhaps a bit of damage here and there... But I don't think anybody actually expected it to really happen. If we would have taken it more seriously National Guard units could have been called up the night before and put on stand-by, etc. Ah well, its easy to judge looking back on things. I think next time though the US will be a whole lot more cautious. And also that the Homeland Security head is realizing that his job is going to be a whole lot rougher than he had originally thought.

09-05-2005, 06:59 PM	#30
goandykid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,378	Does it even matter what the Mayor does? Yeah, he had an impact. Yeah, he could of done better. But what it boils down to is the most powerful, most important man in the world should have gotten his mayor in check and handled it himself. FEMA was sucked into homeland security, with a decrease in funding, half the reason they did such a shitty job in the first place. If GWB wouldn't have gone off trying to conquer the middle east, maybe we'd have some manpower and resources left to help the situation. You can say what about the mayor, the governor, the poverty, the crime, FEMA, etc etc etc, but it all boils down to GWB fucking SOMETHING up, and if it some how didn't stem down to him, then he shouldve stepped in to solve the situation. You guys are going to lose. You might as well just cheer for me, because Boston isn’t winning in Boston for the season opener. I’m sorry. " - Gilbert Arenas

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