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Old 09-02-2005, 07:08 PM   #1
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Is your City safe?

Although living in NYC or any city for that matter is dangerous crime wise I am glad we are not prone to natural disasters.

Would you live in a place where tornado, hurricanes, earthquakes, and mudslides are always a present danger?

You will never see me live next to the beach, i've seen some nasty storms there.
California? beautiful state but earthquake city, Florida....nope, I like having a roof.

This is not a knock on other cities but why would you live there knowing your at risk.




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NEW YORK (AP) -- Imagine lower Manhattan flooded with water - a storm surge that washes over Wall Street and submerges the South Street Seaport.

Posters showing such a scenario, with the ominous warning "NYC Hurricane Ahead," are going up around the city this week to warn New Yorkers that what happened in the South could happen here.

The ad campaign by the city's Office of Emergency Management was planned long before Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast, but city officials say the devastation there is a grim reminder that New York must prepare for hurricanes that could similarly swallow swaths of the five boroughs.

"Even though we haven't had a hurricane in a while, we are susceptible," OEM spokesman Jarrod Bernstein said Thursday. "What we want is people to know where they live in terms of the zones now so they know what to do if a storm comes."



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The zones at highest risk include lower Manhattan, Brooklyn's Coney Island, the Rockaways in Queens and the perimeter of Staten Island. Emergency officials say 30-foot-high storm surges could drown those areas during a major hurricane.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday that the city begins monitoring storms as they form off the coast of Africa. He said officials have studied New York's topography and have evacuation plans ready to go.

"The city has no land that is lower than sea level, but it clearly has some areas that are very close to sea level and that flood occasionally," he said. "We've looked very carefully at these."

Authorities say that surges are not limited to waterfronts and that flooding could push miles inland in some areas. The city is especially vulnerable because it is nestled in a bend along the coastline between New Jersey and Long Island. Hurricane season here is from August to October, when waters along the East Coast are warmer.

With much of the attention focused on hurricanes' familiar targets in the South, like Florida and the Gulf Coast, it is easy to think the Northeast is spared. But the storms have battered New York, too.

The worst hit in 1938, before hurricanes began receiving official names. The storm, known as the Long Island Express, was responsible for more than 600 deaths.

During the 1950s, there was Carol, then Edna, then Connie. Dozens died.

In 1960, Hurricane Donna landed in New York after crossing the Florida Keys and North Carolina. It brought raging 10-foot tides and some of the strongest winds the city had ever seen. More than 100 were killed.

The most recent major hurricane was Gloria in September 1985, disrupting trading on Wall Street and causing thousands to evacuate their homes in beachfront areas.

Nor'easters and storm flooding can wreak havoc in New York, too: The photo in the ad campaign launching this week wasn't taken after a hurricane but after a coastal flood in 1950.

The Office of Emergency Management's preparedness plan advises New Yorkers to study and learn the risk levels and evacuation routes for their neighborhoods.

In a hurricane emergency, residents would flee along evacuation routes and the city would open reception centers that would then funnel people to shelters throughout the five boroughs. A computer system would register refugees who entered reception centers, allowing them to track down friends and loved ones.

Unlike in New Orleans, which lies below sea level and could be evacuated for months, any evacuations in New York City would be short term, because tidal waters would recede.

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We dont have any type of natural disasters in my country. Fortunately ALBOB is american.
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I live in London


I suffer from constant threat and fear of terrorist attacks..... Even when on the bus

So if something goes wrong in London and i don't post anymore you know the reason.


I would be much happier living in a natural disaster zone rather than bloody London.


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Wow, didn't know they'd have any Hurricanes in NYC before. Strange.
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Wow, didn't know they'd have any Hurricanes in NYC before. Strange.
Not as bad as Florida. They seem to get one every so often.

In my lifetime we had a lame one back in 1985.
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My dream is to move to USA especially California, but they wouldn't let me in to america .
Thats good to know.....looks like we are beginning to attempt to keep dangerous types out.
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lol i mean i couldn't get a green card, I want one!

I wasn't born in America, so that's the story.



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lol i mean i couldn't get a green card, I want one!

I wasn't born in America, so that's the story.
Just move to Mexico for a year and become a citizen there.....then America will let you in with open arms.....or you could pretend you are the son of a rich Saudi Royal and again they would let you in no questions asked.
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I'm glad earthquakes scare people from coming to Cali. Stay out, your not wanted.
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What do you guys think they should do with New Orleans now?

How far below sea level is it btw?
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zero now!!

I think it was only like 7-10 before the breach! Im not 100% sure though
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I live in London


I suffer from constant threat and fear of terrorist attacks..... Even when on the bus

I know the feeling, I work 20 minutes away from what was the World Trade Center
So if something goes wrong in London and i don't post anymore you know the reason.


I would be much happier living in a natural disaster zone rather than bloody London.


My dream is to move to USA especially California, but they wouldn't let me in to america .

You can hide at my place, do you do housework?

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It has to be more than that in some places Myk if its reported that the water is like 20 ft high... hrmmm

I wonder what can be done to raise the city somehow. Perhaps raise the roads. to sea level, so if worse comes to worse, the underground stuff floods but they still have the upper roads.
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What do you guys think they should do with New Orleans now?

How far below sea level is it btw?
If you lived there seeing what happened would you return?
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I live in windsor on the canadian border with detroit. we are under threat for terrorist attacks on the ambassador bridge, the busiest border crossing in the world(Ithink I heard). I travel over the bridge about 3 times a week, I go to school in detroit, and I have seen some crazy shit.

we also have fermy(sp) 2, a huge nuclear power plant nearby, if that thing is hit it would take out half of the continent. Id be done in the blast zone, but you guys in the outer limits would die slow painful deaths from radiation!
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Tsunami's, Hurricanes, cyclones, Seamonsters, tourists, floods, landslides, falling rocks, volcanoes, nuclear subs in Pearl Harbor, Godzirra. We have it all here in Paradise.



"We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that."
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Tsunami's, Hurricanes, cyclones, Seamonsters, tourists, floods, landslides, falling rocks, volcanoes, nuclear subs in Pearl Harbor, Godzirra. We have it all here in Paradise.
Holy shit, you have Godzirra!!!
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NYC got hit by terrorists and thousands of people died. Did you return?
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Holy shit, you have Godzirra!!!
By Godzirra I mean japanese tourists.



"We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that."
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Although living in NYC or any city for that matter is dangerous crime wise I am glad we are not prone to natural disasters.
they are predicting a massive earthquake for manhattan unfortunatly. I am not sure (don't know if they are sure) when though.



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NYC got hit by terrorists and thousands of people died. Did you return?
No, neither did any of my friends.

I really meant natural disaster.....Hmmmmm......I think... now don't quote me on this but I fear mother nature more than I fear Man.
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they are predicting a massive earthquake for manhattan unfortunatly. I am not sure (don't know if they are sure) when though.
There is a fault in upper Manhatten the runs from 125 st to Astoria blvd.

Your close to that fault P-Funk.
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There is a fault in upper Manhatten the runs from 125 st to Astoria blvd.

Your close to that fault P-Funk.

no shit!! I am moving the fuck out!

When do they predict this thing to go down?



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None that I know of so far. The plates or whatever they call them are not as bad as that or those in California.

With all the skyscrapers in NYC can you imagine the damage that will occur.
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None that I know of so far. The plates or whatever they call them are not as bad as that or those in California.

With all the skyscrapers in NYC can you imagine the damage that will occur.

yes, but there are no skyscrapers on the upper east side. The only places that there are skyscapers are where the city is solid bed rock underneath. That is why you have these huge high rise building in mid town, followed by very low building through chelsea and the village (since that was marsh land that was filled in and built on top of they can't re-enforce the ground to build skyscrapers) and then huge high rise buildings in the downtown finacial district area (again, more bed rock).

The damage will be horrible. Buildings will fall in a domino effect I would imagine.



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Source--> http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/News/story1_2_01.html


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Manhattan and Queens, NY experienced a minor earthquake at 7:34 A.M. Wednesday January 17, 2001. The magnitude was 2.4, the instrumental location of the earthquake was the upper east side of Manhattan at a depth of approximately 7 kilometers (4.3 miles). The earthquake was located near to the 125th Street fault and it is possible that this fault was the source of the earthquake.
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yes, but there are no skyscrapers on the upper east side. The only places that there are skyscapers are where the city is solid bed rock underneath. That is why you have these huge high rise building in mid town, followed by very low building through chelsea and the village (since that was marsh land that was filled in and built on top of they can't re-enforce the ground to build skyscrapers) and then huge high rise buildings in the downtown finacial district area (again, more bed rock).

The damage will be horrible. Buildings will fall in a domino effect I would imagine.
Yes, very true.

You live by 96 street don't you?
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yea, they have minor ones about every 4-5 years though. I want to know when the big one is going to hit so I can get the hell out!



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You live by 96 street don't you?

naw, in the 70s



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naw, in the 70s
Those buildings in the 70's are still tall....wait I may be thinking of midtown manhatten.
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